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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 5 @ 1:23 PM ET
Context. Virtanen at 6 vs McCann at 24(?). I don’t know the exact consensus ranking, but I’m pretty sure there were some that had Virtanen slipping all the way to round 2.
- 1970vintage

That’s bs
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 5 @ 1:24 PM ET
Sutter to have sports hernia surgery

6-8 weeks out

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 5 @ 1:25 PM ET
Sutter to have sports hernia surgery

6-8 weeks out

- Codes1087

Damn - that operation is close to his balls. Could get tricky
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 5 @ 1:25 PM ET
Also on his third team in his short career......
- SMP8719


How about Pearson, his third team in the same season...
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 5 @ 1:28 PM ET
Damn - that operation is close to his balls. Could get tricky
- CanuckDon


yah i don't think the surgeons are going to have to take any extra precaution in that area.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 5 @ 1:28 PM ET
That’s bs
- CanuckDon


I just read a couple old scouting reports. One had him in the 10-15 range. I think CSS had him #6 NA, another didn’t give him a number, but said best case was a top 6 winger and most likely was bottom 6 winger who could chip in occasionally due to consistency issues.

Point being, the expectation of a player selected 6th and one selected 24th are typically different
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 5 @ 1:30 PM ET
I just read a couple old scouting reports. One had him in the 10-15 range. I think CSS had him #6 NA, another didn’t give him a number, but said best case was a top 6 winger and most likely was bottom 6 winger who could chip in occasionally due to consistency issues.

Point being, the expectation of a player selected 6th and one selected 24th are typically different

- 1970vintage

He was consensus top 10. Button was the only one that had him in the second round. I believe Mackenzie had him at 8 - always the most accurate list
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Mar 5 @ 1:30 PM ET
Sutter to have sports hernia surgery

6-8 weeks out

- Codes1087

Again? Jeez he should just retire
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Mar 5 @ 1:32 PM ET
I just read a couple old scouting reports. One had him in the 10-15 range. I think CSS had him #6 NA, another didn’t give him a number, but said best case was a top 6 winger and most likely was bottom 6 winger who could chip in occasionally due to consistency issues.

Point being, the expectation of a player selected 6th and one selected 24th are typically different

- 1970vintage


Nearly all the mocks had him going to Vancouver. Regardless, that pick has been polarizing since it was made.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Mar 5 @ 1:36 PM ET
Sutter to have sports hernia surgery

6-8 weeks out

- Codes1087


15 team no trade list starting next season. I'll be surprised if he's dealt prior to the year his contract expires however.
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Mar 5 @ 1:42 PM ET
How about Pearson, his third team in the same season...
- 1970vintage


Another reclamation project.... wait and see.... his contract combined with his current production is what caused the moves. I am not high on Pearson but better then EG
New world order
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Glutton for punishment by bad teams, BC
Joined: 02.20.2019

Mar 5 @ 1:48 PM ET
How about Pearson, his third team in the same season...
- 1970vintage


He's a champion, doesn't count.
New world order
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Glutton for punishment by bad teams, BC
Joined: 02.20.2019

Mar 5 @ 1:49 PM ET
He was consensus top 10. Button was the only one that had him in the second round. I believe Mackenzie had him at 8 - always the most accurate list
- CanuckDon


I agree, plus his shoulder injury really messed up his development.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 5 @ 1:52 PM ET
Do you mean like the Coyotes, who had 4 straight top 10 picks, starting in 06, that got OEL and player who is slightly above average , like Turris?
- Reubenkincade


Definitely a good example. My feeling Boeser will be a more impactful player than Turris but could be close.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 5 @ 1:55 PM ET
Isn't the first round or 2 the only choices he makes?? After that I believe the scouts are heavily relied on?
- SMP8719


I do think that is the case, but I tend to lay it all at the feet of GM's good and bad as they are responsible for putting the teams in place.

Benning deserves a lot of praise for identifying Judd and promoting for example.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 5 @ 1:57 PM ET
I wouldn't put too much stock in what he said after the fact. Of course you're going to say you made the right decision immediately following.

Nobody walks out of a draft like "Wow we really (frank)ed that one up didn't we?"

- NorthNuck


Its harder to find quotes pre draft but my memory was that Benning was talking about needing those types of players from day one.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 5 @ 2:05 PM ET
Its harder to find quotes pre draft but my memory was that Benning was talking about needing those types of players from day one.
- belcherbd

I have no problem with the Virtanen pick. He didnt work out but the process was ok. Big strong and fast with a nice shot. That skill set is hard to find. His IQ holds him back but that is such a hard thing to access with a 17year old. Juolevi was a mistake and they tried to get too cute. No issues with any of Jim’s other first round picks
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 5 @ 2:13 PM ET
Sutter to have sports hernia surgery

6-8 weeks out

- Codes1087

for (frank)s sake


this basically kills his trade value. multiple sports hernia surgeries is a major red flag for any pro athlete.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 5 @ 2:13 PM ET
15 team no trade list starting next season. I'll be surprised if he's dealt prior to the year his contract expires however.
- golfingsince


they'll get like a 3rd round pick at most at this point.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Mar 5 @ 2:14 PM ET
I have no problem with the Virtanen pick. He didnt work out but the process was ok. Big strong and fast with a nice shot. That skill set is hard to find. His IQ holds him back but that is such a hard thing to access with a 17year old. Juolevi was a mistake and they tried to get too cute. No issues with any of Jim’s other first round picks
- CanuckDon

I will never understand why Juolevi was ranked higher than Sergachev
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 5 @ 2:14 PM ET
He was consensus top 10. Button was the only one that had him in the second round. I believe Mackenzie had him at 8 - always the most accurate list
- CanuckDon


Cool, but again, that wasn’t the thrust of my point. It is about expectation based on where players were drafted.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Mar 5 @ 2:16 PM ET
they'll get like a 3rd round pick at most at this point.
- Nucker101

Someone on twitter said he has missed 43% of the games played in his 4 years in Vancouver
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 5 @ 2:17 PM ET
they'll get like a 3rd round pick at most at this point.
- Nucker101

I'd consider a 3rd a win win.
93Nucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 04.04.2018

Mar 5 @ 2:17 PM ET
for (frank)s sake


this basically kills his trade value. multiple sports hernia surgeries is a major red flag for any pro athlete.

- Nucker101

Utica could use a leader
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 5 @ 2:25 PM ET
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