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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 4 @ 9:58 PM ET
Emerson Etem
- belcherbd



Etem-Shinkaruk duo reunited
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 4 @ 9:59 PM ET
Will you be going to the Rugby 7's this week, looks like it should be a great time and veŕy entertaining
- Reubenkincade

Yup, I'm looking forward to club seats this year, and then fly out Tues.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Mar 4 @ 9:59 PM ET
http://www.mynhldraft.com/2019-nhl-draft/2019-nhl-draft-rankings/
- Reubenkincade

His highest ranking on a credible site is #4 on iSS. Most pros have podz, dach, and krebs agead of him including bob, mckeens and future considerations.
https://www.eliteprospects.com/register
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Mar 4 @ 10:00 PM ET
Yup, I'm looking forward to club seats this year, and then fly out Tues.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Nice. Hope you have a great time.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Mar 4 @ 10:00 PM ET
Etem-Shinkaruk duo reunited
- Nucker101

How many bad project players do we have to go through season after season until Jim gets canned. Does FA actually think we forget about all these failures by Jim? He must because he rewarded Benning with an extension last year.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 4 @ 10:01 PM ET
"I don’t know when we’re going to be good"

Jim Benning Quote

- thundachunk

Sometime after he's fired.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 4 @ 10:02 PM ET
Nice. Hope you have a great time.
- Reubenkincade

I've been waiting 9 months for March.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Mar 4 @ 10:02 PM ET
His highest ranking on a credible site is #4 on iSS. Most pros have podz, dach, and krebs agead of him including bob, mckeens and future considerations.
https://www.eliteprospects.com/register

- neem55


He has moved up a position or 2 every couple months, so once his team wins Memorial Cup appearance, he will be ranked 3rd.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Mar 4 @ 10:03 PM ET
Sometime after he's fired.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Best answer
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 4 @ 10:08 PM ET
"I don’t know when we’re going to be good"

Jim Benning Quote

- thundachunk



Seriously?


A man with a vision
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 4 @ 10:08 PM ET
"I don’t know when we’re going to be good"

Jim Benning Quote

- thundachunk


We want to be competitive next year,” Benning said. “Realistically, if you’re asking me when will the day be that we can compete with the best teams in the league, I think that (Sedin contract) timeline is fair. This is Year 2, and by our fourth or fifth year, I hope we’ll be there with the elite teams in the league.”
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Mar 4 @ 10:09 PM ET
He has moved up a position or 2 every couple months, so once his team wins Memorial Cup appearance, he will be ranked 3rd.
- Reubenkincade

Many of hw rankings cited on the link i gave are from February. He’s been top 10 for most of the year. Nhl central has him behind krebs and dach as of feb. I don’t think he goes top5 unless a team really needs d and not c(oilers). But i generally go with the nhl central scouting ranks.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 4 @ 10:10 PM ET
[quote=belcherbd]

this is his 4th year, so 1 year from being elite
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Mar 4 @ 10:12 PM ET
[quote=belcherbd]
That's worked out phenomenally well.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 4 @ 10:12 PM ET
How many bad project players do we have to go through season after season until Jim gets canned. Does FA actually think we forget about all these failures by Jim? He must because he rewarded Benning with an extension last year.
- thundachunk


This isnt the kind of season that gets him canned. They are still playing for a playoff spot in early March even though they are collapsing now. There wasnt expected to be any meaningful games regarding playoffs this season. Except we had just that for 3/4 of the season. We also come out of this season with a budding superstar and hopes of another(hughes) next season. If slow progress was going to get Jim canned,,, it would have happened by now and I was even predicting this would be his last full season as GM... but I think the owner has already stated his satisfaction with the rebuild progress. So... maybe next season if there is a step backwards but it was all forward this season.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 4 @ 10:15 PM ET
How many bad project players do we have to go through season after season until Jim gets canned. Does FA actually think we forget about all these failures by Jim? He must because he rewarded Benning with an extension last year.
- thundachunk


Aquaman

Our veterans are showing the young guys, this is how deep you have to dig — every shift, every night — to win in this league. The young guys are learning the right lessons.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Mar 4 @ 10:15 PM ET
Many of hw rankings cited on the link i gave are from February. He’s been top 10 for most of the year. Nhl central has him behind krebs and dach as of feb. I don’t think he goes top5 unless a team really needs d and not c(oilers). But i generally go with the nhl central scouting ranks.
- neem55


Who knows for sure, until June25th.
I will probably batch about whoever we take, as I have done for almost 40 years now. lol
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Mar 4 @ 10:15 PM ET
[quote=belcherbd]
My quote was from 2018.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 4 @ 10:16 PM ET
[quote=Nucker101]

5th
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 4 @ 10:16 PM ET
They won 5 out of their last 7 last year.
- A_SteamingLombardi


They dont have gudbranson this time around
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 4 @ 10:16 PM ET
This isnt the kind of season that gets him canned. They are still playing for a playoff spot in early March even though they are collapsing now. There wasnt expected to be any meaningful games regarding playoffs this season. Except we had just that for 3/4 of the season. We also come out of this season with a budding superstar and hopes of another(hughes) next season. If slow progress was going to get Jim canned,,, it would have happened by now and I was even predicting this would be his last full season as GM... but I think the owner has already stated his satisfaction with the rebuild progress. So... maybe next season if there is a step backwards but it was all forward this season.
- boonerbuck



I think they sorta actually are trying to rebuild and have been since the 2017 trade deadline.

However, what a rebuild looks like with an imbecile like Jim Benning running the show isn’t good.

Benning has the patience and attention span of a small child and absolutely no ability to implement and execute a long-term plan. And every time a Stamkos or Tavares or Karlsson comes up he’s like a dog seeing a squirrel.

He also has no ability to negotiate to extract value for assets or even understand what assets he should be moving and gets absolutely bent over and reamed in every negotiation so the pick surplus you’d expect doesn’t happen. Plus he’s desperate to keep his job so takes age-gap junk instead of picks hoping that leads to results sooner but convincing himself that because they’re still youngish it’s still a rebuild-type move.

He’s shown on multiple occasions he doesn’t understand player value vs. cap hit and the concept of negative value assets (and has targeted and paid a premium for negative value assets on multiple occasions in the past) and when questioned didn’t understand the concept of receiving assets for taking bad contracts. So good luck at weaponizing cap space.

And he’s a weak, limp-Richarded GM who is bullied by his veteran-loving coach into filling the roster with veterans rather than developing younger cheaper players. And because of his inability to negotiate gets bent over and reamed again here.

And, of course, has no ability to evaluate or understand how the sport of hockey is played in 2019.

Where @y2kcanucks goes wrong is giving them way too much credit by thinking they actively have a plan to not rebuild and are trying to make the playoffs. They do think they are rebuilding for the last 2 summers. They’re just too stupid, too weak, and too incompetent to know what a actual rebuild looks like or how to execute it. So we have this haphazard mess instead.

However, the silver lining is that because they’re so shockingly bad at identifying talent and building rosters, we end up at the bottom of the league even if rebuild is completely botched and get the high pick/elite prospect every year that is actually the biggest part of any rebuild.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 4 @ 10:16 PM ET
[quote=thundachunk]

Mine 2016?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 4 @ 10:16 PM ET
Aquaman
- belcherbd

I wonder what the vets showed them Sat night in Vegas.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 4 @ 10:18 PM ET
They dont have gudbranson this time around
- Codes1087

I think he was on the shelf last year with 4-5 others.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 4 @ 10:18 PM ET
[quote=belcherbd]

oops, even worse
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