all the drama and only 9 pages, somebody say something rude and inconsiderate...
- wcorvette

We had a productive therapy session and are clearly all reformed!

We had a productive therapy session and are clearly all reformed!
- NC Flyers Fan

(frank) you, fight me!

(frank) you, fight me!
- jmatchett383

lets be honest, everyone I agree with was right today and everyone else was wrong

all the drama and only 9 pages, somebody say something rude and inconsiderate...
- wcorvette

no one has thrown a chair

(frank) you, fight me!
- jmatchett383

I don’t need to.

I don’t need to.
- NC Flyers Fan

Yes you do, because I am right.

Yes you do, because I am right.
- jmatchett383

We shall see, yes, we shall.

Hang for Johnson straight up

Hang for Johnson straight up
- wcorvette

I believe they call that a standing 69.

ahh, the good ol' play the pens in the 3rd in 4 nights at the end of the season trick, eh?

it's impossible to not root for them to make it given the run they've been on, even if it's been propped up largely by excellent goaltending.

i want pitt and columbus to miss. badly.

i always think back to 2010. got in at game 82 after a SO against lundqvist of all goalies and got within an OT goal of game 7. poop....just get in and see what happens.

plus that's at least 2 months without flyers hockey before the season is finally over. that's a long f'ng offseason. blech.

ahh, the good ol' play the pens in the 3rd in 4 nights at the end of the season trick, eh?

it's impossible to not root for them to make it given the run they've been on, even if it's been propped up largely by excellent goaltending.

i want pitt and columbus to miss. badly.

i always think back to 2010. got in at game 82 after a SO against lundqvist of all goalies and got within an OT goal of game 7. poop....just get in and see what happens.

plus that's at least 2 months without flyers hockey before the season is finally over. that's a long f'ng offseason. blech.
- hammarby31

this team has greatly improved since Hak is gone

if they do make the playoffs hopefully they can make it at least entertaining and not just get smacked down like last time

Yup. Then you look back at the season and you see Cal Pickard as a starter, JVR injured right out of the gate, Simmonds recovering from abdominal surgery and clearly not himself, a bunch of young Dmen, Hexy fired, Hakstol fired,...and lo and behold there they are in the t hick of it at the end of the season. Bodes well for the future.


- Lexington Flyer

oh, i'm fired up for the future...not just for the group here, and likely a different coach (but who knows), but for the guys coming soon: frost, farabee et al.

already ahead of the game as they've dumped hak, and hextall (for better or worse) and a lot of dead wood. the offseason should be exciting. hard to imagine regression and injuries to key guys all happening again like this season.

I believe they call that a standing 69.
- hereticpride

Lol

There is no way to know that players brought up earlier would perform then the way they are now. Speculate all you want but you're just pissing in the wind.

Fighting about it is also just pissing in the wind with the added indignation of the other dude's piss on your shoes, too.
- Scoob

i love the argument that because hart struggled out of the gate in the AHL it de facto means he would have struggled in the NHL and therefore the decision to send him down at the beginning of the season was correct, and it proves he needed to "progress" in order to make it. it's a ridiculous argument.

zero way to know how he would have played in the NHL, 1. and 2, if you're gonna' make the other case, you could also make the case that if he was able to make the leap after only a few months in the A, (and was given a chance only because of the injury situation at that time), he would have made the same transition after a few months if he struggled to start the season with the flyers, meaning he had the ability and maturity to succeed quickly even if there was a steep learning curve. the few months in the A meant and proved nothing.

or not. IDGAF what anyone thinks anyway.

Yup - clear the whole franking dance floor. That said, no need to ask someone to dance when all you really want to do is slew foot them to the floor.

It's not difficult at all to completely ignore a poster that you don't like. I do it every day. See their post, scroll on by. Simple.
- Scoob

this makes me so sad, scoob.

i love the argument that because hart struggled out of the gate in the AHL it de facto means he would have struggled in the NHL and therefore the decision to send him down at the beginning of the season was correct, and it proves he needed to "progress" in order to make it. it's a ridiculous argument.

zero way to know how he would have played in the NHL, 1. and 2, if you're gonna' make the other case, you could also make the case that if he was able to make the leap after only a few months in the A, (and was given a chance only because of the injury situation at that time), he would have made the same transition after a few months if he struggled to start the season with the flyers, meaning he had the ability and maturity to succeed quickly even if there was a steep learning curve. the few months in the A meant and proved nothing.

or not. IDGAF what anyone thinks anyway.
- hammarby31

It's definitely not a fact and definitely speculation. I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that a goalie that young could use some AHL time to break in to Pro hockey. I think it helped him but I have no way of knowing how he would of fared if he had not been sent down.
There is a flip side to that point though. Many posters complain when a young player is brought up and looks good that he should of been up sooner to replace whoever. We also have no way of knowing what would've happened there. It's all speculation. For example with Myers. I think and I emphasize think that he was capable of playing in the NHL sooner. At what level though. What I think is best is for the player to come up and make as smooth of a transition as possible. When his game is refined enough in areas to be able to get significant ice time. That appears to be the case with Myers to this point. Same thing with Sanheim. Some criticize how they handled him. Limiting and lowering his ice time last season and sending him back down. In my opinion based on how he was playing it was necessary. When I look at how both player look now, it's obvious that the Flyers handled both players the right way. Rather than those that speculate and say he should've been playing instead of so and so.
The Flyers were floundering in the first half and there was no sign of Hakstol being able to right the ship so he had to go. What's obvious to me though is that he was very good and knew what he was doing in handling and developing young players. I fully support overcooking and showing patience with young players over rushing them. Extra AHL time doesn't hurt a player.

It's definitely not a fact and definitely speculation. I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that a goalie that young could use some AHL time to break in to Pro hockey. I think it helped him but I have no way of knowing how he would of fared if he had not been sent down.
There is a flip side to that point though. Many posters complain when a young player is brought up and looks good that he should of been up sooner to replace whoever. We also have no way of knowing what would've happened there. It's all speculation. For example with Myers. I think and I emphasize think that he was capable of playing in the NHL sooner. At what level though. What I think is best is for the player to come up and make as smooth of a transition as possible. When his game is refined enough in areas to be able to get significant ice time. That appears to be the case with Myers to this point. Same thing with Sanheim. Some criticize how they handled him. Limiting and lowering his ice time last season and sending him back down. In my opinion based on how he was playing it was necessary. When I look at how both player look now, it's obvious that the Flyers handled both players the right way. Rather than those that speculate and say he should've been playing instead of so and so.
The Flyers were floundering in the first half and there was no sign of Hakstol being able to right the ship so he had to go. What's obvious to me though is that he was very good and knew what he was doing in handling and developing young players. I fully support overcooking and showing patience with young players over rushing them. Extra AHL time doesn't hurt a player.
- MJL

Not to pile on the bull poop, but this type of response is refreshing. Agree or disagree with the point, it's presented in a civil manner.

Not that any one cares (or should care) about my thoughts on the topic. I enjoy reading and occasionally discussing with everyone in here.

Cheers!

Not to pile on the bull poop, but this type of response is refreshing. Agree or disagree with the point, it's presented in a civil manner.

Not that any one cares (or should care) about my thoughts on the topic. I enjoy reading and occasionally discussing with everyone in here.

Cheers!
- BenderRodriguez

That's typical of my responses. I think we all care about your thoughts. Why not share them. That's what we're here for.

It's definitely not a fact and definitely speculation. I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that a goalie that young could use some AHL time to break in to Pro hockey. I think it helped him but I have no way of knowing how he would of fared if he had not been sent down.
There is a flip side to that point though. Many posters complain when a young player is brought up and looks good that he should of been up sooner to replace whoever. We also have no way of knowing what would've happened there. It's all speculation. For example with Myers. I think and I emphasize think that he was capable of playing in the NHL sooner. At what level though. What I think is best is for the player to come up and make as smooth of a transition as possible. When his game is refined enough in areas to be able to get significant ice time. That appears to be the case with Myers to this point. Same thing with Sanheim. Some criticize how they handled him. Limiting and lowering his ice time last season and sending him back down. In my opinion based on how he was playing it was necessary. When I look at how both player look now, it's obvious that the Flyers handled both players the right way. Rather than those that speculate and say he should've been playing instead of so and so.
The Flyers were floundering in the first half and there was no sign of Hakstol being able to right the ship so he had to go. What's obvious to me though is that he was very good and knew what he was doing in handling and developing young players. I fully support overcooking and showing patience with young players over rushing them. Extra AHL time doesn't hurt a player.
- MJL

my post was not a reflection of anything anyone said in here - i have no idea of the positions of others with respect to hart. but i've seen a lot of comments on various SM sites saying his early AHL struggles prove he would have floundered with the flyers too and it was the right call at the time. i just find it an absurd correlation.

i always understand the notion of overcooking, and every situation is different.

my point - not saying you disagree - is simply that there's no way to know how hart would have fared if he started with the flyers. and we'll never know. what's important is that we've seen he can play at this level, albeit a small sample size. i have no concerns about how his last couple of games went. at all.

alright which one of you (frank) bois was talking poop about my sweet leather queen Lauren Hart?

my post was not a reflection of anything anyone said in here - i have no idea of the positions of others with respect to hart. but i've seen a lot of comments on various SM sites saying his early AHL struggles prove he would have floundered with the flyers too and it was the right call at the time. i just find it an absurd correlation.

i always understand the notion of overcooking, and every situation is different.

my point - not saying you disagree - is simply that there's no way to know how hart would have fared if he started with the flyers. and we'll never know. what's important is that we've seen he can play at this level, albeit a small sample size. i have no concerns about how his last couple of games went. at all.
- hammarby31

Well to be clear, I do agree, we have no way of knowing. I also agree about being concerned about the last couple of games. Even the most seasoned goalies have off games. How he responds moving forward is far more important in my opinion. I think we have a future star goalie in Hart.

we should go after pavelski for a 1-2 year deal to get some veteran leadership
- 2Real

I actually like this idea. I just don't know if he would accept that term, or want to move all the way across the country.

But he already has 36 goals this season and will most likely get at least 40.

The guy can still produce at a high level.

I actually like this idea. I just don't know if he would accept that term, or want to move all the way across the country.

But he already has 36 goals this season and will most likely get at least 40.

The guy can still produce at a high level.
- MBFlyerfan

If it is a 2 year deal it would be a 35+ deal although he doesn't show any signs of slowing down.

If it is a 2 year deal it would be a 35+ deal although he doesn't show any signs of slowing down.
- MJL

I have trouble thinking he would take a two year deal unless the cap hit was north of 9.

I'M NOT AFRAID OF YOU!!