At some point it has to stop being bad luck.
- 1970vintage

injuries... bad schedule... bad bounces.... bad reffing...

#bettmanhatesus

just because i want to needle you, i fixed it for you.

now, stfu and gfy.
- RealityChecker

Could someone please address the environmental impact of nuclear testing and cattle farms.

At some point it has to stop being bad luck.
- 1970vintage

This is 100% the year we win a lottery spot

Could someone please address the environmental impact of nuclear testing and cattle farms.
- New world order

the idiot who keeps bringing it up should.

This is 100% the year we win a lottery spot
- NorthNuck

Next year. 2020 is a far better draft. This draft isn’t too exciting.

I think you missed the point. It doesn't matter what I 'prove' you aren't going to understand it or get it. So cutting things off is the way to go. I can't change your mind even with facts so ending again there is no point. Just like you can't change my mind so lets move on.
- LordHumungous

Uh, huh? Thanks for the slight. I believe in my reading comprehension and logical abilities, so try me. You keep saying facts and provide none. I'm asking for it.

I'm not saying you're going to change my mind, but I believe in knowing both sides of an argument, even if I don't think one is correct. PM me if you don't want to clog up the boards.

Next year. 2020 is a far better draft. This draft isn’t too exciting.
- CanuckDon

I think you just made my point

I think you just made my point
- NorthNuck

you forgot to add that the team will make a big splash at this year's draft by trading their 2020 first to move up to 3rd.

you forgot to add that the team will make a big splash at this year's draft by trading their 2020 first to move up to 3rd.
- RealityChecker

Seems legit

i could see this.

if benning has set up the scouting department correctly and with brackett leading it, i honestly don't want benning around.

i don't trust his pro scouting decisions. i don't like his cap management. i don't like his view of the team (for the past 5 seasons).

i just don't want him around even as a president.

as long as the team interviews a number of different people with different ideas, i think they'll be fine.
- RealityChecker

This is the probably my main issue with this team for years now, although to qualify this belief of mine, I have to say I'm not privy to what happens within the organization and make my assumptions based on MSM and fan boy articles.

Was Benning interviewed for the position, were other available qualified individuals interviewed? I have always believed no there wasn't. Same as Green, I am not a fan regardless of peoples perception of how he turned mediocre players into mediocre players.

Lets put Green in Vegas and see how poorly that team would perform and bring Gallant here and watch the immediate improvement of the canucks.

I'm not saying Gallant would have the team in the playoffs, but he would have the team prepared to play each and every game. I believe an experienced coach would have gotten a lot more out of each individual player or an appropriate GM would have moved on from the unsuitable player.

Disclaimer...I used Gallant as an experienced option, there are several other suitable options than just handing the positions to Benning and Green.

you forgot to add that the team will make a big splash at this year's draft by trading their 2020 first to move up to 3rd.
- RealityChecker

Technically, moving a 1st from next year to acquire a player this year fills the age gap.


I read someone suggest the canucks
Move, Virtanen, Hutton, Markstrom, Gaudette, Madden, Stetcher or basically all the current decent players/prospects not named Bo, Brock, Petey for a collection of 2nd and 3rds to combine with our first this year just so we can select Jack.....

So maybe our 1st (top 5-10), 4 2nds and 4 3rds for jack hughes?

Seems like a massive mistake to me.

it's been 5 years of bottom finishes.

it doesn't take a drafting guru to develop a few pieces of a new core when you have top 5 picks in most rounds every year.

keep waving the pom poms and i'll keep hating, k?
- RealityChecker

Not to be an ass but it's been 3 years of bottom 5 finishes. 5 years is just a convenient narrative for the group here.

2014–15 2014–15 Western Pacific 2nd 82 48 29 — 5 101 242 222 892 6 2 4 14 18 Lost in First Round, 2–4 (Flames)[33]
2015–16 2015–16 Western Pacific 6th 82 31 38 — 13 75 191 243 — — — — — Did not qualify
2016–17 2016–17 Western Pacific 7th 82 30 43 — 9 69 182 243 — — — — — Did not qualify
2017–18 2017–18 Western Pacific 7th 82 31 40 — 11 73 218 264 — — — — — Did not qualify

Not to be an ass but it's been 3 years of bottom 5 finishes. 5 years is just a convenient narrative for the group here.

2014–15 2014–15 Western Pacific 2nd 82 48 29 — 5 101 242 222 892 6 2 4 14 18 Lost in First Round, 2–4 (Flames)
- Makita[33]
2015–16 2015–16 Western Pacific 6th 82 31 38 — 13 75 191 243 — — — — — Did not qualify
2016–17 2016–17 Western Pacific 7th 82 30 43 — 9 69 182 243 — — — — — Did not qualify
2017–18 2017–18 Western Pacific 7th 82 31 40 — 11 73 218 264 — — — — — Did not qualify

Go back one more year, and ahead one more year...

Uh, huh? Thanks for the slight. I believe in my reading comprehension and logical abilities, so try me. You keep saying facts and provide none. I'm asking for it.

I'm not saying you're going to change my mind, but I believe in knowing both sides of an argument, even if I don't think one is correct. PM me if you don't want to clog up the boards.
- NewYorkNuck

lol apologies wasn't intended that way.

I do like your approach however in knowing both sides of an argument. Something you don't hear alot of nowadays.

And apologies to Makita for derailing the thread a bit.

Go back one more year, and ahead one more year...
- 1970vintage

As I said, a convenient narrative for this group. Makes the situation sound more dire than the record states...regardless of getting ass kicked by Calgary that one year, it still wasn't a bottom 5 finish.

Not to be an ass but it's been 3 years of bottom 5 finishes. 5 years is just a convenient narrative for the group here.

2014–15 2014–15 Western Pacific 2nd 82 48 29 — 5 101 242 222 892 6 2 4 14 18 Lost in First Round, 2–4 (Flames)
- Makita[33]
2015–16 2015–16 Western Pacific 6th 82 31 38 — 13 75 191 243 — — — — — Did not qualify
2016–17 2016–17 Western Pacific 7th 82 30 43 — 9 69 182 243 — — — — — Did not qualify
2017–18 2017–18 Western Pacific 7th 82 31 40 — 11 73 218 264 — — — — — Did not qualify

Yep. And all with Edler/Tanev/Sutter in the lineup.

lol
- LordHumungous

You're like the one guy who doesn't back up his poop-talking because he has sore lymph nodes, but would totally beat someone up if that wasn't the case.



Moving on.

As I said, a convenient narrative for this group. Makes the situation sound more dire than the record states...regardless of getting ass kicked by Calgary that one year, it still wasn't a bottom 5 finish.
- Makita

Great use of Narrative.

Forget the bottom 5 finish phrase for a moment and focus on the context.

This team has been one of the worst teams in the NHL the past the 5 season's including this year and subsequently have drafted high because of this. No one should be surprised that we've found some good players with our high picks, its the way the system is designed to work.

Great use of Narrative.

Forget the bottom 5 finish phrase for a moment and focus on the context.

This team has been one of the worst teams in the NHL the past the 5 season's including this year and subsequently have drafted high because of this. No one should be surprised that we've found some good players with our high picks, its the way the system is designed to work.
- belcherbd

1) If that was the only place JB has found quality, that might be relevant.
2) Not very many GM's had EP top5 from what most journalists have reported
3) Boeser

For some reason it's JB when it's poopty decisions and Brackett when it's smart ones #narrative

I think you missed the point. It doesn't matter what I 'prove' you aren't going to understand it or get it. So cutting things off is the way to go. I can't change your mind even with facts so ending again there is no point. Just like you can't change my mind so lets move on.
- LordHumungous

You should go with "I'm wrong, but I love oil money. So (frank) it." At least then you're being honest and factual.

Not to be an ass but it's been 3 years of bottom 5 finishes. 5 years is just a convenient narrative for the group here.

2014–15 2014–15 Western Pacific 2nd 82 48 29 — 5 101 242 222 892 6 2 4 14 18 Lost in First Round, 2–4 (Flames)
- Makita[33]
2015–16 2015–16 Western Pacific 6th 82 31 38 — 13 75 191 243 — — — — — Did not qualify
2016–17 2016–17 Western Pacific 7th 82 30 43 — 9 69 182 243 — — — — — Did not qualify
2017–18 2017–18 Western Pacific 7th 82 31 40 — 11 73 218 264 — — — — — Did not qualify

3 years of committing to a rebuild. They take longer than three years guys!

You should go with "I'm wrong, but I love oil money. So (frank) it." At least then you're being honest and factual.
- neem55

just let it go man.

Great use of Narrative.

Forget the bottom 5 finish phrase for a moment and focus on the context.

This team has been one of the worst teams in the NHL the past the 5 season's including this year and subsequently have drafted high because of this. No one should be surprised that we've found some good players with our high picks, its the way the system is designed to work.
- belcherbd

I agree with both bolded words, although the 101pt states otherwise regarding one of worst teams in the past 5 years, so sorry, I'll disagree with your narrative or context.

We all know this team sucks and is struggling on the talent level, and the one year in-between the 4 other bottom 5 years was a unexpected but it did happen and if iirc Boeser came out of the draft after that season.

Next year. 2020 is a far better draft. This draft isn’t too exciting.
- CanuckDon

Nah it will be a lotto pick this year because we host it. Next year if we are still in bottom 5, we will pick 7-10 again #CanucksLottoLuck

just let it go man.
- Codes1087

Sorry I missed the moving on posts and saw that one first. On it!