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Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Mar 9 @ 6:44 PM ET
[quote=I have 4 untouchables- Giroux, Coots, Provorov, and Hart.

Make that 9 untouchables on the current roster:

Giroux, Patrick, Lindblom, Konecny, Coots, Myers, Sanheim, Hartman, Hart
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 9 @ 6:47 PM ET
Some UFA will be re-signed, rights to others traded then re-signed with a new team. The trade market can shift depending on team’s performance down the stretch and in the playoffs.

I have 4 untouchables- Giroux, Coots, Provorov, and Hart.

Ghost, for me has a price. First, losing him can’t create a hole, so a replacement for his key roles is needed. Secondly, we get a great deal.

- NC Flyers Fan


That doesn't change that there is ONE UFA defenseman potentially available with the offensive ability that rivals or is better than Gostisehere and that's Karlsson.

So ballpark, to trade for a defenseman that doesn't create a hole and has the ability that Gostisbehere has but is better defensively, what is that going to cost in a trade? Which players off the current team are you also willing to give up? Patrick? Konecny? Sanheim? Myers?
Daceroni
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AB
Joined: 11.20.2006

Mar 9 @ 6:53 PM ET
I love having a lot of young D.
Meyers looks like a gem but really too small a sample to know for certain what he becomes.
Sanheim is already good and hopefully still improving on the D side.
Morin is a question mark.
Hagg seems like a third pair guy who could have a very long NHL career in the right role.
Ghost hopefully rebounds to where he was before his injury and surgery. Provy is not going anywhere.

I think it’s too soon trade any of the young guys unless they get blown away by the return.
Like a Taylor Hall equivalent return that the Devils got.

- Marc D


Good analogy on the D.
The Taylor Hall was just a horrible trade all around. Larsson is a serviceable #3-4 I watch him in Edmonton, a little slow with not a lot of offence to his game, but is physical at least. Would you trade Provorov for Hall, just curious, not sure Ghost would get it done by himself, thinking if it were to happen today?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 9 @ 6:55 PM ET
That doesn't change that there is ONE UFA defenseman potentially available with the offensive ability that rivals or is better than Gostisehere and that's Karlsson.

So ballpark, to trade for a defenseman that doesn't create a hole and has the ability that Gostisbehere has but is better defensively, what is that going to cost in a trade? Which players off the current team are you also willing to give up? Patrick? Konecny? Sanheim? Myers?

- MJL


I see nothing wrong with our d group next year at all. I hope they don’t frank with it

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 9 @ 6:55 PM ET
Ek has us in the yoffs everybody!!
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Mar 9 @ 6:56 PM ET
That doesn't change that there is ONE UFA defenseman potentially available with the offensive ability that rivals or is better than Gostisehere and that's Karlsson.

So ballpark, to trade for a defenseman that doesn't create a hole and has the ability that Gostisbehere has but is better defensively, what is that going to cost in a trade? Which players off the current team are you also willing to give up? Patrick? Konecny? Sanheim? Myers?

- MJL


Personally, I haven’t ruled out Karlsson.

As far as making a trade that doesn’t create a hole, we would either be talking a blockbuster multiple player trade. Or if it’s a rebuilding team, using prospects and draft picks.
jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

Mar 9 @ 7:04 PM ET
I see nothing wrong with our d group next year at all. I hope they don’t frank with it
- Just5

Well I said at the beginning,
Provey, Sanhiem
Ghost, Meyers
Haag, Gudas, Morin last three in any rotation.
AMac to LHV dknt need the cap space and he is better than a Folin.
jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

Mar 9 @ 7:07 PM ET
Personally, I haven’t ruled out Karlsson.

As far as making a trade that doesn’t create a hole, we would either be talking a blockbuster multiple player trade. Or if it’s a rebuilding team, using prospects and draft picks.

- NC Flyers Fan

Don't want any part of a 77 mil dollar Karlsson. He has been dinged a lot recently. He is out "indefinitely " now.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Mar 9 @ 7:09 PM ET
Hi friends
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Mar 9 @ 7:16 PM ET
Myers might be the best skater on this team
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 9 @ 7:22 PM ET
I will never understand why defensive players try to deflect pucks with their stick.....
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 9 @ 7:23 PM ET
we suck again
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 9 @ 7:32 PM ET
Jake special there. Turn the puck over....hurry to the bench behind the counter rush to avoid the minus
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Mar 9 @ 7:33 PM ET
we suck again
- 2Real

The flyer studio still believes in a PO spot. 🤠💪
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 9 @ 7:35 PM ET
for the love of pete, can Claude please go back to the left side of the PP
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 9 @ 7:38 PM ET
Where did we get Hartman from that was Simmonds like
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Mar 9 @ 7:38 PM ET
Hartman baby
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Mar 9 @ 7:42 PM ET
Where did we get Hartman from that was Simmonds like
- 2Real

Simmonds only made 1 point for the preds. 🥴
Hughjass
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 05.15.2017

Mar 9 @ 7:42 PM ET
That doesn't change that there is ONE UFA defenseman potentially available with the offensive ability that rivals or is better than Gostisehere and that's Karlsson.

So ballpark, to trade for a defenseman that doesn't create a hole and has the ability that Gostisbehere has but is better defensively, what is that going to cost in a trade? Which players off the current team are you also willing to give up? Patrick? Konecny? Sanheim? Myers?

- MJL


100% correct, Ghosts trade value couldnt be lower and I expect a much better season next year. He’s a guy who needs to play with confidence and it will come back. Would be a huge mistake to trade him while his value is so low, unless he could land us someone like marner. Ppl forget pretty quick how the value of a player like ghost playing well should bring in a Tayler Hall type return.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Mar 9 @ 7:47 PM ET
Dyke!
Hughjass
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 05.15.2017

Mar 9 @ 7:49 PM ET
Simmonds who? Jvr at 7 over simmer was the right move.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Mar 9 @ 7:55 PM ET
Ek has us in the yoffs everybody!!
- Just5


Yes....yet somehow he didn’t pick us to win tonight. Which is utterly bizarre.

We need to win.

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 9 @ 7:56 PM ET
That is one aggressive as hell forecheck the isles employed there. Great job by the flyers in the last part of the period they owned it
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 9 @ 7:57 PM ET
Simmonds only made 1 point for the preds. 🥴
- Landsbergfan


2-1 Hartman
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 9 @ 7:57 PM ET
He's awful when you look at his contract.

He is a liability, not an asset.

Seriously, the contract is franking horrible.

- Atomic Wedgie


Wouldn’t go there
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