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VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Mar 10 @ 12:12 PM ET
The team came out flat (again). Has occurred far too often this season. Needs to be addressed.

Paterson did tweet which I thought was correct. That was the first time TG has pulled his goalie this season. Van did respond after that. Game was still out of hand by then and VGK probably packed it in a bit. I'll call that a sign of growth for TG.

- manvanfan


He didn't have a choice the poor bastard got lite up like a Christmas tree!
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 10 @ 12:12 PM ET
The team came out flat (again). Has occurred far too often this season. Needs to be addressed.

Paterson did tweet which I thought was correct. That was the first time TG has pulled his goalie this season. Van did respond after that. Game was still out of hand by then and VGK probably packed it in a bit. I'll call that a sign of growth for TG.

- manvanfan

Fire Green.
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 10 @ 12:13 PM ET
I guess they lost yesterday then.

13 games to go, Benning better not mess this up...

- 1970vintage

Be good to see how he does over an 82 game schedule next season. Another building block.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Mar 10 @ 12:14 PM ET
Fire Green.
- Marwood


and Benning
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Mar 10 @ 12:16 PM ET
and Benning
- VanHockeyGuy


and Aquilini
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 10 @ 12:16 PM ET
He didn't have a choice the poor bastard got lite up like a Christmas tree!
- VanHockeyGuy

Despite them being a second year team, Vegas, they’re a big, fast, veteran team with outstanding goaltending, it was never close.

Canucks were never afforded the same opportunities to acquire draft picks or veteran talent that Vegas has. Not a good measuring stick game.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Mar 10 @ 12:16 PM ET
I guess they lost yesterday then.

13 games to go, Benning better not mess this up...

- 1970vintage

26 points on the table!

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 10 @ 12:16 PM ET
One step at a time
- LeftCoaster

What bout Lockwood? They going to give him games or ask him to go to Utica to sit in the press box.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 10 @ 12:20 PM ET
26 points on the table!


- LordHumungous


13-0, 91 points. I think 90 will be the number to get in in the West.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 10 @ 12:22 PM ET
Edler is Van's highest scoring defensemen and he is 70th in the league among scoring for defencemen.
- manvanfan



That is not impressive
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 10 @ 12:22 PM ET
What bout Lockwood? They going to give him games or ask him to go to Utica to sit in the press box.
- manvanfan

Not sure, never really took to him so I haven’t followed his progression much. Another Baertschi type player.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 10 @ 12:22 PM ET
What bout Lockwood? They going to give him games or ask him to go to Utica to sit in the press box.
- manvanfan


Think if he goes to Utica he would play. He’s not 19 coming out of junior hockey.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 10 @ 12:24 PM ET
Not sure, never really took to him so I haven’t followed his progression much. Another Baertschi type player.
- LeftCoaster


Maybe less skill, but more North American Heart...
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Mar 10 @ 12:25 PM ET
13-0, 91 points. I think 90 will be the number to get in in the West.
- 1970vintage

1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 10 @ 12:27 PM ET

- VanHockeyGuy


I’ll set the over under on points the Canucks collect the rest of the way at 15. You taking the over?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 10 @ 12:31 PM ET
That is not impressive
- VANTEL


But it will be good enough to get him $6m on a multi year deal with a NMC...
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 10 @ 12:31 PM ET
Not sure, never really took to him so I haven’t followed his progression much. Another Baertschi type player.
- LeftCoaster

He's not soft like Baertschi.
https://twitter.com/umich...tatus/1102047509000654848

Can't find a better clip but Lockwood went into the corner and just ran over the defender to get the puck.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 10 @ 12:32 PM ET
Put me on the Fire Benning bus. Not because I expected the team to be bottom 5 and they are (almost), but because he thinks they are a Jay Beagle away from competing for a playoff spot and well, they aren’t.

Good on him for moving Gagner and Goody, recognizing two mistakes, but there’s plenty more where that came from.

Green I give an actual NHL roster to before I criticize him for being a failure.

- 1970vintage


I don't know for sure but I think Beagle was brought in to play against other teams top lines and keep the puck out of his net. Playing along side of Loui Eriksson does not help that cause.

I think with more effective line mates like when he played with Roussel made a big difference. Unfortunately they need AR to play top line minutes because the talent level sucks
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 10 @ 12:39 PM ET
I don't know for sure but I think Beagle was brought in to play against other teams top lines and keep the puck out of his net. Playing along side of Loui Eriksson does not help that cause.

I think with more effective line mates like when he played with Roussel made a big difference. Unfortunately they need AR to play top line minutes because the talent level sucks

- VANTEL


This year one of the top 4 teams will have a 4th line guy play a "huge roll", and he will get paid because of it. Same will happen next year, and the year after that. I have nothing against Beagle, he's a decent player. He's not what the team needed this year, and probably not next year either. The puck is still going in the net, and his good work ethic and locker room leadership isn't convincing anyone to be prepared for the drop of the puck.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Mar 10 @ 12:39 PM ET
I’ll set the over under on points the Canucks collect the rest of the way at 15. You taking the over?
- 1970vintage


Under baby
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Mar 10 @ 12:44 PM ET
The jack ass Scott Oake said last night that Hughes could be in the lineup vs NYR this coming Wednesday.
- LordHumungous

If he plays wed the fan base will erupt with omg jb is going to play him the 10 games
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 10 @ 12:46 PM ET
That is not impressive
- VANTEL


Its also a narrative, I get why people want to move on from Eddie. I'm one his biggest boosters here and I'll only be happy if he returns on a 1 year deal.

That said, this is not the year to be complaining about his play, where does he rank among D points per game?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 10 @ 12:49 PM ET
If he plays wed the fan base will erupt with omg jb is going to play him the 10 games
- Bettmanhatesus


I would hope he at least gets a practice in first, like any other player. But lots of time between now and Wednesday!
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 10 @ 12:49 PM ET
I don't know for sure but I think Beagle was brought in to play against other teams top lines and keep the puck out of his net. Playing along side of Loui Eriksson does not help that cause.

I think with more effective line mates like when he played with Roussel made a big difference. Unfortunately they need AR to play top line minutes because the talent level sucks

- VANTEL


Eriksson is a lot of things, overpaid, slow, ineffective offensively but hes one of the teams better defensive forwards. If anything that should be helping Beagle shut down other teams, which he hasnt been doing.

Its pretty telling that despite sutter's injury beagles ice time has decreased.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 10 @ 12:51 PM ET
I don't know for sure but I think Beagle was brought in to play against other teams top lines and keep the puck out of his net. Playing along side of Loui Eriksson does not help that cause.

I think with more effective line mates like when he played with Roussel made a big difference. Unfortunately they need AR to play top line minutes because the talent level sucks

- VANTEL

Is this strategy of using Beagle or Sutter to shutdown other teams top lines kind of useless? The point would be to keep the puck out of your own net and that's all they would do. Isn't the point of hockey to outscore your opponents. If you spend the entire game trying to not have the other team score, you would think that the other team would have the puck more often.

I can't think of another team that actually deploys their 4th line to try and shut down the other team all game long. A few 3rd lines but not many.

It was a long time ago but when Beagle and Sutter were injured and Horvat and Pettersson were forced to play against other teams top lines and started in their own zone. I think the team was better.
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