he will be a highly sought after commodity. probably get at least a 3rd.....
- daryl stanley

Id be fine with Elliot or Talbot as back up next year. But if Elliots value would be a 3rd at the draft for negotiating rights i imagine his value at the deadline would have been higher and he would have been moved then.

Does anyone know what time Jake's appeal is ?
- scorachek

I think 3PM

Zamula.
- youarewrong

I almost said him but he hasnt made it to the NHL yet so I omitted Zamula. This reminds me of Detroit getting datsyuk and zetterberg in the late rounds. And we know what Detroit did after that 😁

I was thinking the same thing...
I'm stoked that they've been playing well lately, and am really hoping they manage to sneak into the playoffs. But this 20-25 game stretch doesn't erase the past 5-6 seasons for me.
I knew the process wasn't gonna happen overnight when Hexy was hired. I know about the mess of a cap situation he inherited. I get all of that. But for a team that basically needs a miracle to squeak into the playoffs in a league where more than half the teams make it, they're certainly not ahead of schedule in my book. On schedule at best.
- Big_E_88

Some of these players that are apart of this process however haven't been on the team that long, nor was Hextall's tenure that long. Hextall was necessary to change up the decade long philosophy the Flyers held, which included homegrown goaltending not being that important, high draft picks were expendable, signing high priced free agents, etc etc. The fact of how we have been playing is generally coinciding with a lot of our young guys being integral parts of our team (Hart, Lindblom, Provorov, Myers, Sanheim, Konecny, Patrick) I think this is the beginning of what we were promised when Hextall became GM. And with what our cap space will be even after getting our RFA's, I think we can attract some of that high priced talent that will be the "cherry on top" if you will.

Some of these players that are apart of this process however haven't been on the team that long, nor was Hextall's tenure that long. Hextall was necessary to change up the decade long philosophy the Flyers held, which included homegrown goaltending not being that important, high draft picks were expendable, signing high priced free agents, etc etc. The fact of how we have been playing is generally coinciding with a lot of our young guys being integral parts of our team (Hart, Lindblom, Provorov, Myers, Sanheim, Konecny, Patrick) I think this is the beginning of what we were promised when Hextall became GM. And with what our cap space will be even after getting our RFA's, I think we can attract some of that high priced talent that will be the "cherry on top" if you will.
- sjk540

I understand & agree with pretty much everything you said. I am very excited about the future as well. My negative sounding comment was solely directed at the sentiment of the team "being ahead of schedule."

Some of these players that are apart of this process however haven't been on the team that long, nor was Hextall's tenure that long. Hextall was necessary to change up the decade long philosophy the Flyers held, which included homegrown goaltending not being that important, high draft picks were expendable, signing high priced free agents, etc etc. The fact of how we have been playing is generally coinciding with a lot of our young guys being integral parts of our team (Hart, Lindblom, Provorov, Myers, Sanheim, Konecny, Patrick) I think this is the beginning of what we were promised when Hextall became GM. And with what our cap space will be even after getting our RFA's, I think we can attract some of that high priced talent that will be the "cherry on top" if you will.
- sjk540

It's really a shame that Hextall won't be around to see what he had a large part in building. I don't think there has been anything different that has happened that wasn't going to happen under Hextall.

I understand & agree with pretty much everything you said. I am very excited about the future as well. My negative sounding comment was solely directed at the sentiment of the team "being ahead of schedule."
- Big_E_88

I think on schedule is pretty accurate overall.

I think 3PM
- arichardson22

I heard 2

Myers and Sanhiem are starting to turn in to valuable defenders. Myers can flat recover from his mistakes in one or two strides.

Still don’t believe they can sustain this win percentage for the rest of the season. They will be close but ultimately run out of games as Pittsburgh and Columbus will hang in there

Another observation from last night is Patrick needs to shoot the puck more often, looking to pass first in every situation which I think defenders know his tendency

Myers and Sanhiem are starting to turn in to valuable defenders. Myers can flat recover from his mistakes in one or two strides.

Still don’t believe they can sustain this win percentage for the rest of the season. They will be close but ultimately run out of games as Pittsburgh and Columbus will hang in there
- MrPerfect316

Most likely and that is going to be disappointing. They were capable of playing better in the first half of the season.

It's really a shame that Hextall won't be around to see what he had a large part in building. I don't think there has been anything different that has happened that wasn't going to happen under Hextall.
- MJL

Yeah it is, but clearly we can see his approach may have been a little too patient, as all of these guys seem to really belong. I mean, it could also be said that they were brought up at the perfect time, which is a credit to Hextall obviously. The thing that got Hextall fired was his unwillingness to shift from Hakstol. Hakstol clearly kept the kids down, were made healthy scratches over other players over the years (Dale Weiss, Lehtera, Nick Schultz, AMac, and many others), and just didn't get that he was basically in Neutral.

I share the same sentiment about Hextall, but there was no promise he would've done what Fletcher has done, so maybe moving on from him was necessary as well.

Myers and Sanhiem are starting to turn in to valuable defenders. Myers can flat recover from his mistakes in one or two strides.

Still don’t believe they can sustain this win percentage for the rest of the season. They will be close but ultimately run out of games as Pittsburgh and Columbus will hang in there
- MrPerfect316

I think that most of the reason of why we have been going on this unprecedented pace on the heels of an 8 game winless streak, is clearly because of the secondary scoring and the young guys really making their mark. Because of this, I think not only can we keep up this pace, sort of an ignorance is bliss, the young guys are just playing without really doing too much thinking of other factors, as well as the veterans who have all been involved in a playoff push in march and april, but i think we can sneak in. I think the thing for us is not our pace slowing down, but we will need a team or two to tumble, which I think is the biggest obstacle right now.

It's really a shame that Hextall won't be around to see what he had a large part in building. I don't think there has been anything different that has happened that wasn't going to happen under Hextall.
- MJL

Do you think hextall would have fired hak?

Most likely and that is going to be disappointing. They were capable of playing better in the first half of the season.
- MJL

Just imagine if we were 2 or 3 games better through January. How would that 6 points feel right now? Ugh! I forgot about that game we blew against Sens until Bill reminded us.

Do you think hextall would have fired hak?
- Just5

I don't think he would have, what Hex did didn't get him fired, what he didn't did...

Yeah it is, but clearly we can see his approach may have been a little too patient, as all of these guys seem to really belong. I mean, it could also be said that they were brought up at the perfect time, which is a credit to Hextall obviously. The thing that got Hextall fired was his unwillingness to shift from Hakstol. Hakstol clearly kept the kids down, were made healthy scratches over other players over the years (Dale Weiss, Lehtera, Nick Schultz, AMac, and many others), and just didn't get that he was basically in Neutral.

I share the same sentiment about Hextall, but there was no promise he would've done what Fletcher has done, so maybe moving on from him was necessary as well.
- sjk540

We were on the same page but now you lost me. I vehemently disagree that Hakstol kept the kids down. What Hakstol did was develop the players and teach the hard lessons that they needed to learn to be good pros. To work on the detail in their game to correct the flaws that needed to be corrected. Hakstol did a great job with that in my opinion. The Flyers like many teams used veteran players as stop gaps while younger players developed. We'll never know what Hextall would've done in the future but its pretty clear how well he set this team up for the future.

Do you think hextall would have fired hak?
- Just5

I don't know. My post was in the context of player development.

It's really a shame that Hextall won't be around to see what he had a large part in building. I don't think there has been anything different that has happened that wasn't going to happen under Hextall.
- MJL

Amen. I am still angered by his firing.

Having said that, major kudos to Fletch as I was initially worried that he was brought in to go all in right away.. trade picks and prospects for a win now. He hasn't done this. I am not sure if Hextall would have fired Hak or not. Kind of think he would have at season's end. Also I'm sure he would have traded Simmer, and called up some of the youth he saw as being ready.

Really goes to show that the org simply had a major conflict with Hextall's style rather than his plan. Because of his actions though, we have cap space, youth ready to contribute at the NHL level now, bright prospects in the pipe, and few terrible contracts.

Amen. I am still angered by his firing.

Having said that, major kudos to Fletch as I was initially worried that he was brought in to go all in right away.. trade picks and prospects for a win now. He hasn't done this. I am not sure if Hextall would have fired Hak or not. Kind of think he would have at season's end. Also I'm sure he would have traded Simmer, and called up some of the youth he saw as being ready.

Really goes to show that the org simply had a major conflict with Hextall's style rather than his plan. Because of his actions though, we have cap space, youth ready to contribute at the NHL level now, bright prospects in the pipe, and few terrible contracts.
- Hextall271

In my opinion even if he wanted to make those kinds of moves in season they weren't really available to him now. This off season is when we'll really see what Fletcher's approach is going to be.

With the work he has done in such a small sample size, of course with his experience as a coach in the past, as well as his longevity as a head coach in the AHL as well, I wouldn't doubt he gets a chance at a HC job again, or at least being a part of a team's coaching staff of perhaps a team that will maybe be in transition. Becoming an assistant on a new coach's staff is basically like starting his wait all over again to get back behind the bench as a HC. Also wouldn't surprise me if he does make it into the playoffs and perhaps wins a series that Homer would remove the interim tag.
- sjk540

Homer was fired two GM’s ago...

Gordon not using his players properly on the PP is a disadvantage. Yes, he’s done a good job. The turn around to his credit is massive. The problem is, I don’t want another Hakstol or Berube, while proven Head Coaches with a long track record are on the market.

It's really a shame that Hextall won't be around to see what he had a large part in building. I don't think there has been anything different that has happened that wasn't going to happen under Hextall.
- MJL

Agreed. It was a coaching issue IMO.

For those who think that Gordon is not using personel properly on the PP. During a recent telecast during a game, the statement was made that over the last 17 games, the Flyers PP was operating at over 30%

what schedule are they ahead of exactly?
- daryl stanley

Our made up schedule of when they should be contenders. Now you know exactly what schedule i refer to.
Consensus was we were a bubble team this year and 20-21 is the year we emerge. I think we emerge next season now after finally seeing the kids take on bigger roles and succeed.
Add in the kids on try outs or later round picks and that puts this team further ahead than planned

For those who think that Gordon is not using personel properly on the PP. During a recent telecast during a game, the statement was made that over the last 17 games, the Flyers PP was operating at over 30%
- MJL

He isn’t using his players properly. All this says is the PP has improved numbers wise, it doesn’t mean he’s using personnel properly. With the talent we have and how bad we were the first half of the season, we could only go up. Everyone knows that Giroux is a much more dangerous threat on the left half wall.