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Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Mar 13 @ 12:36 PM ET
Correct, need skill, speed and scoring off the rush. Flyers have JVR and other players who crash the net for goals.

This won’t be popular but JVR IS HAVING A GOOD SEASON

- wcorvette


I have no problem with this (and I agree!).
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Mar 13 @ 12:37 PM ET
Taking their damn time with this Voracek decision
- arichardson22


Still figuring out how to penalize him with more games since he had the audacity to call BS.
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Mar 13 @ 12:40 PM ET
I have no problem with this (and I agree!).
- Lexington Flyer

Yeah the mans scoring huge goals. Not Jeff carter type goals where he scores when the games a blowout already
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Mar 13 @ 12:42 PM ET
Taking their damn time with this Voracek decision
- arichardson22


It's a forgone conclusion that the decision was made when the meeting ended. They are just not rushing to announce he's still suspended because the game isn't until tomorrow.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Mar 13 @ 12:56 PM ET
Yeah the mans scoring huge goals. Not Jeff carter type goals where he scores when the games a blowout already
- Richieattack18


Carts never consistently went to the dirty areas until he left Philly. He loved that skate down the right side and hit the goalie in the crest move though.

He missed on a few huge opportunities against Fleury and the Pens in the playoffs. I still have a hard time forgiving him for those.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 1:02 PM ET
Carts never consistently went to the dirty areas until he left Philly. He loved that skate down the right side and hit the goalie in the crest move though.

He missed on a few huge opportunities against Fleury and the Pens in the playoffs. I still have a hard time forgiving him for those.

- Lexington Flyer



He scored 181 meaningless goals including 38 game winning goals and even leading the league one season in GW goals while he was in Philly. All meaningless.
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Mar 13 @ 1:13 PM ET
Carts never consistently went to the dirty areas until he left Philly. He loved that skate down the right side and hit the goalie in the crest move though.

He missed on a few huge opportunities against Fleury and the Pens in the playoffs. I still have a hard time forgiving him for those.

- Lexington Flyer

His signature shot was skate down right boards and wrist it wide so it wrapped all the way out of the zone
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Mar 13 @ 1:15 PM ET
He scored 181 meaningless goals including 38 game winning goals and even leading the league one season in GW goals while he was in Philly. All meaningless.
- MJL

Yep all his goals were meaningless. Good job MJL
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Mar 13 @ 1:18 PM ET
It's a forgone conclusion that the decision was made when the meeting ended. They are just not rushing to announce he's still suspended because the game isn't until tomorrow.
- dragonoffrost


Offically upheld...

This league...
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Mar 13 @ 1:24 PM ET
Offically upheld...

This league...

- dragonoffrost

Pathetic. (frank) George Parros
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 13 @ 1:26 PM ET
Offically upheld...

This league...

- dragonoffrost


I had no expectations of Bettman overturning that suspension, but the fact it even got this point is ridiculous.

(frank)ing George Parros.
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Mar 13 @ 1:33 PM ET
Offically upheld...

This league...

- dragonoffrost

The guy literally profits off of selling poop that promotes hockey violence “Make Hockey violent again” nhl is embarrassing
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Mar 13 @ 1:51 PM ET
(frank) off Bettman
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 2:00 PM ET
(frank) off Bettman
- arichardson22



I read Bettman's statement that he issued. His description of the hit is accurate. I don't know what the basis for the appeal was but if they were arguing the hit happened differently, that was a mistake. They should've argued that the punishment of two games was excessive when compared to other instances in the league. They should also have argued that Voracek's completely clean record over what 8 years, should count for something as far as intent. 1 game was sufficient.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 13 @ 2:06 PM ET
So I just read the article indicating that the Flyers are gonna push hard Panarin or Karlsson.

First, no to Karlsson. He is unnecessary here.

As for Panarin, he could help us. There is no question but he Panarin doesn’t solve areas like size, toughness and grit. Panarin doesn’t solve how thin we are in the bottom six. Simmonds for example isn’t doing so well with Nashville by an offensive standpoint. I think any chance of him getting a long term six million dollar deal is dying by the day. I would still take Simmonds but he’ll have to accept lesser money in a lesser role. I think the Flyers should be looking into more size, more grit, no matter what their name is.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Mar 13 @ 2:08 PM ET
I read Bettman's statement that he issued. His description of the hit is accurate. I don't know what the basis for the appeal was but if they were arguing the hit happened differently, that was a mistake. They should've argued that the punishment of two games was excessive when compared to other instances in the league. They should also have argued that Voracek's completely clean record over what 8 years, should count for something as far as intent. 1 game was sufficient.
- MJL


Bettman even mentioned Jake’s impressive clean history/record in his statement! Just absurd.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 13 @ 2:13 PM ET
I read Bettman's statement that he issued. His description of the hit is accurate. I don't know what the basis for the appeal was but if they were arguing the hit happened differently, that was a mistake. They should've argued that the punishment of two games was excessive when compared to other instances in the league. They should also have argued that Voracek's completely clean record over what 8 years, should count for something as far as intent. 1 game was sufficient.
- MJL

Clean record. Consider what Malkin got in his intent and attitude towards Raffl both during and after that game in which he was suspended.

You can’t make an argument of it but what if Boychuk hurt Voracek instead? Has anyone ever seen a player attempt a hit but get the worst of it because the target put his hip out? Boychuk hated into Jake.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 13 @ 2:15 PM ET
I have no problem with this (and I agree!).
- Lexington Flyer



JVR 2nd on the team in Gpg behind Third Line Shawnie.
Hckygoalie31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 09.25.2017

Mar 13 @ 2:21 PM ET
Clean record. Consider what Malkin got in his intent and attitude towards Raffl both during and after that game in which he was suspended.

You can’t make an argument of it but what if Boychuk hurt Voracek instead? Has anyone ever seen a player attempt a hit but get the worst of it because the target put his hip out? Boychuk hated into Jake.

- SuperSchennBros


If Jake was the one who got hurt....Boychuk would have never been suspended. Beacuse....that's just the way this league works.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Mar 13 @ 2:25 PM ET
(frank) off Bettman
- arichardson22


Yep...if only the NHL and the Department of Player Safety were held responsible for their choices like Mr. Voracek and other arbitrarily chosen players who must pay what the luck of the wheel rulings dictates. Today’s decision does not absolve Mr. Bettman of dealing with an ugly internal issue of laughable inconsistentcy in the league’s exercising of supplemental discipline.

The Flyers were absolutely right to appeal. If only...

The hypocrisy of it, is holding others accountable without being accountable yourself. A mark of unworthy leadership. This is not a question of a few mistakes. This is a cancerous growth that only the brainwashed cannot see.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Mar 13 @ 2:38 PM ET

Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Mar 13 @ 2:44 PM ET
I read Bettman's statement that he issued. His description of the hit is accurate. I don't know what the basis for the appeal was but if they were arguing the hit happened differently, that was a mistake. They should've argued that the punishment of two games was excessive when compared to other instances in the league. They should also have argued that Voracek's completely clean record over what 8 years, should count for something as far as intent. 1 game was sufficient.
- MJL


Flyers need to hire someone who's better at arguing.
Hckygoalie31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 09.25.2017

Mar 13 @ 2:44 PM ET

- NC Flyers Fan


How nice that he decided to throw in what game he's going to miss.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Mar 13 @ 2:48 PM ET
I read Bettman's statement that he issued. His description of the hit is accurate. I don't know what the basis for the appeal was but if they were arguing the hit happened differently, that was a mistake. They should've argued that the punishment of two games was excessive when compared to other instances in the league. They should also have argued that Voracek's completely clean record over what 8 years, should count for something as far as intent. 1 game was sufficient.
- MJL


The appeal was not a mistake. The appeal was about reducing the suspension from 2 games to 1. The rest of Mr. Bettman’s response simply reflects the honesty that Voracek shows in telling his side of the story. Not everyone appreciates honesty, unfortunately. Clearly, fairness was also not a consideration in view of prior rulings.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 2:49 PM ET
If Jake was the one who got hurt....Boychuk would have never been suspended. Beacuse....that's just the way this league works.
- Hckygoalie31


Boychuk didn't do anything illegal on the play.
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