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tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 12 @ 3:54 PM ET
Wouldnt this defence look great with a hard hitting d man...oh u know the rest.
- oil90

K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Mar 12 @ 4:06 PM ET
The trade was an absolute win for the Devils. When Hall was healthy, he DOMINATES. Shero made that trade KNOWING the Devils were rebuilding. He is putting the pieces together. Finishing last with Hall is still the plan and there is nothing wrong with that.

And FYI, 87 and 97 cant carry a team either. Crosby needs Malkin. And the Oils are the Isles of the last 20 yrs.

- Leniwm1

The Oil suck worse, they are the poster team for how not to build a team. Kevin Lowe is a dork!
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Mar 12 @ 4:07 PM ET
Hall is nowhere near an 87 or a 97. He's comparable to an 81 at best.
- Hunkulese


Yes, that was kind of my point. And yet, he took the Devils to the playoffs last year. But 97 and 87 (without 71) cant. So its not expected that Hall carries the team but he did anyway. So that alone means that trade was a slam dunk.

larsson was the one guy I didnt want them to trade, but we got an MVP from it. Can't complain.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Mar 12 @ 4:10 PM ET
The Oil suck worse, they are the poster team for how not to build a team. Kevin Lowe is a dork!
- K-man25


A dork? You canucks are too damn polite!
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Mar 12 @ 4:15 PM ET
You're arguing with a guy who thinks "locker room cancer" is a reason a player is bad.
- Pomegrant

He's also a guy that argues with all his fellow Flames posters with his whacko takes.

Devils literally destroyed the Oilers on that trade & there isnt one NHL GM that wouldnt do that deal from Shero's point in a heartbeat!

Now if you can get McDavid off them as well, I'll go out & buy me a Devils Jersey the next day!
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Mar 12 @ 4:17 PM ET
Yes, that was kind of my point. And yet, he took the Devils to the playoffs last year. But 97 and 87 (without 71) cant.
- Leniwm1


How can you say that? McDavid already has more playoff games than Hall. The supporting cast McDavid has isn't any better than the supporting cast Hall had as an Oiler. Crosby is a top five player of all time. So yeah, he could probably carry a team without Malkin.

The Hall for Larsson trade was the only move Chiarelli made any sense at all. Sure, it was a big risk and he wasn't getting maximum value, but if he had made smart moves besides that one, the Oilers would be a force right night.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Mar 12 @ 4:26 PM ET
How can you say that? McDavid already has more playoff games than Hall. The supporting cast McDavid has isn't any better than the supporting cast Hall had as an Oiler. Crosby is a top five player of all time. So yeah, he could probably carry a team without Malkin.

The Hall for Larsson trade was the only move Chiarelli made any sense at all. Sure, it was a big risk and he wasn't getting maximum value, but if he had made smart moves besides that one, the Oilers would be a force right night.

- Hunkulese


Well Mcdavid made one playoffs as did Hall. Mcdavid squeaking into a second round. Not much difference there.

And I would say Mcdavid has an allstar in Leon. Throw in Nuge and whoever else. I dont remember the team Hall had, but having Leon is huge. Did you see the game winner last night? Those two are magic.

He def did not get max value for Hall, so Im still confused why he traded with Shero.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Mar 12 @ 4:56 PM ET
You're arguing with a guy who thinks "locker room cancer" is a reason a player is bad.
- Pomegrant


When you stop and think about it, locker room cancer is the best type of cancer to have!

Seriously though, I haven't heard one (frank)ing peep about anything bad about Taylor Hall and his relationship with the team and other players. It seems like he's a model citizen. I could be wrong.
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Mar 12 @ 5:32 PM ET
When you stop and think about it, locker room cancer is the best type of cancer to have!

Seriously though, I haven't heard one (frank)ing peep about anything bad about Taylor Hall and his relationship with the team and other players. It seems like he's a model citizen. I could be wrong.

- Queenie_5_hole

I see a lot of stuff from Edmonton fans how he was a bad person and how nobody in the org liked him yadda yadda yadda just bullpoop to convince themselves that the trade was worth it.
redmonsters
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 06.23.2015

Mar 12 @ 6:37 PM ET
So I simmed a lottery, and it gave the Rangers the first overall pick. So they get Hughes, the Avs get Kakko...

Whom do we take at three: Byram or Podkolzin?

- archromat

Podkolzin. Hopefully we can sign/trade for D.
redmonsters
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 06.23.2015

Mar 12 @ 6:41 PM ET
Im glad we are losing, but all these injuries are crazy. Imagine we were a playoff team and had all these injuries, we'd drop of that race so quick.

2019 is def not the year of the Devil.

Hopefully the kids aren't demoralized and still progressing as they should.

Also, any interest in Nikushkin from Dallas?

- Leniwm1

Nikushkin, generally yes, but it depends on cost. He was great at WJ when I saw him. Buried in Dallas. Was hoping we picked him before Cory trade.
redmonsters
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 06.23.2015

Mar 12 @ 6:58 PM ET
CRAP! Veronneau signed in Ottawa. Obviously we were not good enough for him.
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Mar 12 @ 7:00 PM ET
He def did not get max value for Hall, so Im still confused why he traded with Shero.
- Leniwm1


Larsson looked to be the perfect fit for the Oilers three years ago. He was exactly what they were missing and they had other players who were giving them what Hall was giving them. There wasn't a better defender available. He should have gotten a pick from Shero as well, but since Shero wasn't willing to give up Larsson plus a pick, it was still a decent risk to take.

Now about all the other moves Chiarelli made...
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Mar 12 @ 7:23 PM ET
CRAP! Veronneau signed in Ottawa. Obviously we were not good enough for him.
- redmonsters


He grew up in Ottawa. Not surprising.
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Mar 12 @ 8:14 PM ET
He grew up in Ottawa. Not surprising.
- Queenie_5_hole

Also their roster is so terrible he is almost guaranteed play time and can just use it as a launching pad for his career. It's a smart move.
Devils4ever
New Jersey Devils
Location: East Newark, NJ
Joined: 10.24.2013

Mar 12 @ 9:41 PM ET
Wouldnt this defence look great with a hard hitting d man...oh u know the rest.
- oil90


Are you ever going to give it a rest? It's looking pretty pathetic at this point..
Squilliam-
Calgary Flames
Location: Diagon Alley
Joined: 10.25.2016

Mar 12 @ 9:50 PM ET
Flames suck as$
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Mar 12 @ 10:03 PM ET
Flames suck as$
- Squilliam-


Time to tank for a 14-16 pick!
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Mar 12 @ 10:04 PM ET
what is this garbage. Please beat us.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Mar 12 @ 10:11 PM ET
what is this garbage. Please beat us.
- Pomegrant


It’s the McKenzie Blackwood show.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Mar 12 @ 10:11 PM ET
Freaking LOOSE already!
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Mar 12 @ 10:16 PM ET
Freaking LOOSE already!
- MartysBetter88


Lose. Not loose. But I (frank) that up all the time too.

And yeah; they need to do that.
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

Mar 12 @ 10:17 PM ET
I wouldn't worry about the tank... NJ well on the way to finish 28th.
Devils4ever
New Jersey Devils
Location: East Newark, NJ
Joined: 10.24.2013

Mar 12 @ 10:41 PM ET
You have to be kidding me..
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Mar 12 @ 11:03 PM ET
oh thank god
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