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philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Mar 14 @ 6:21 PM ET
Cool. Pretty quiet place most of the night . Hope Crow back, plays some of his best hockey in Montreal
- oldduffman


He seems to for sure. Should be a good one More'ee'all
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Mar 14 @ 6:25 PM ET
Well they're stuck with them so all the snivelling whiners should just get used to it
- GPHawksfan


The age old Hockeybuzz paradox.....whining about those who you perceive to be whiners.


I actually thought Seabrook & Forsling have been playing very well together. No worries, Stanley told us all that Joki, Mitchell, and Boquist are coming to save the day next season.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Mar 14 @ 6:36 PM ET
Not only that, he's terrible at sealing off the near post when the puck is outside and below the dot. Why all/most of these goalies today are on their knees with the puck in the corner or behind the net is just(imho)mind boggling. I see so many open corners up high when they do that it's not even funny. The area between their arm and the top of their knee pad is often questionable then as well. Where's the coaching in those instances. My kid learned that stuff in PeeWee's 20 years ago. Not only that, but if your on your skates, it's a lot easier to push off if/when needed. I just don't get it why I see what I see so much.
- BobP.



ALLLLLLLL OF THIS. That Tavares goal was atrocious and all on Delia.
Can NEVER, NEVER, NEVER. happen.
Got the Buds to within 1 and they nearly forced OT.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Mar 14 @ 6:54 PM ET
ALLLLLLLL OF THIS. That Tavares goal was atrocious and all on Delia.
Can NEVER, NEVER, NEVER. happen.
Got the Buds to within 1 and they nearly forced OT.

- philco28


Delia's save percentage:

Dec .957
Jan .908
Feb .874

His game has slipped since his great start, he is out of position, flailing around (making easy saves look hard, or having to make hard saves cause he overcommits) does not challenge (looking smaller than his 6'2), and lately seems to let in at least one bad goal per game. He is not ready for the NHL, after the first 3 games he has looked no better than Forsberg did last year.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Mar 14 @ 7:02 PM ET
Delia's save percentage:

Dec .957
Jan .908
Feb .874

His game has slipped since his great start, he is out of position, flailing around (making easy saves look hard, or having to make hard saves cause he overcommits) does not challenge (looking smaller than his 6'2), and lately seems to let in at least one bad goal per game. He is not ready for the NHL, after the first 3 games he has looked no better than Forsberg did last year.

- LAHawk


Agreed. He got the W but it was a trainwreck from all concerned.
He shows flashes of brilliance but gets beat on routine shots and on odorous
softies like Tavares' tally last eve.

Would love to see a healthy Crow/Ward tandem next season, but highly unlikely given the age/health of both and Ward's market value etc. Hawks likely won't ante up the coin to keep Cam another year.
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Mar 14 @ 7:17 PM ET
I see Dominik Kubalik's Swiss League team lost today which put them down 3-0 in the playoff series. Kubalik picked up 2 assists in the 5-3 loss. One more loss and Kubalik's season is over and I believe he would be eligible to sign with the Hawks and get in a few games before the end of the season. It would be nice to get a feel for him as a player before going into the off season.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Mar 14 @ 7:26 PM ET
Would love to see a healthy Crow/Ward tandem next season, but highly unlikely given the age/health of both and Ward's market value etc. Hawks likely won't ante up the coin to keep Cam another year.
- philco28

Ward is an option if he is okay with re-upping on another one-year deal at less salary than what he is earning this year. Ideally no NTC, too.

Not advocating one way or another, and knowing that many on these boards hate the "bringing back ex-Hawks" carousel especially a player who has been dismal the past two seasons, but my gut is that the Hawks will inquire about Darling.

Either way, the Hawks should kick the tires on as many options as they can for backup goalie. The Hawks should upgrade the backup position yet the contract parameters may limit the field to a very short list which will likely include Ward and Darling.
Hawkytalk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Frankfort, IL
Joined: 06.26.2012

Mar 14 @ 7:36 PM ET
They are playing at a 104 point pace over the last 35 games. If that ain't change or improvement, what would this change look like?
- mohel


Not giving up 30 to 40 shots on goal a game. You're also kidding yourself if you think they can continue to be last in the league defensively on the PK and goals against. Winning 5-4 games is not the norm in the playoffs.

They are scoring lights out because of Toews comeback year, Kane's continual great play, DeBrincat's progression, and Gustafsson replacing DK on the PP. The defense is still atrocious as evidenced by last night's 3rd period.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Mar 14 @ 7:37 PM ET
Ward is an option if he is okay with re-upping on another one-year deal at less salary than what he is earning this year. Ideally no NTC, too.

Not advocating one way or another, and knowing that many on these boards hate the "bringing back ex-Hawks" carousel especially a player who has been dismal the past two seasons, but my gut is that the Hawks will inquire about Darling.

Either way, the Hawks should kick the tires on as many options as they can for backup goalie. The Hawks should upgrade the backup position yet the contract parameters may limit the field to a very short list which will likely include Ward and Darling.

- AEL_Fox


There is going to be a lot of goalie movement this year with Bobrovsky, Varlemov leading, and Lehner and Mrazek playing well/ splitting time as 1a, 1b. Figure Jimmy Howard will sign where he can at least compete as a #1, . Cam Talbot is a UFA, he won't get $4.1M next year, Brian Elliott is only at $2.75M, and please no Mike Smith.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Mar 14 @ 7:44 PM ET
The age old Hockeybuzz paradox.....whining about those who you perceive to be whiners.


I actually thought Seabrook & Forsling have been playing very well together. No worries, Stanley told us all that Joki, Mitchell, and Boquist are coming to save the day next season.

- EnzoD


Do you have the link where Stanley told us this?
TrueGrit
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 07.19.2011

Mar 14 @ 7:45 PM ET
many of you are hammering delia on his rebound control...

only 1 of the 3 goals he gave up were off of rebounds and that one is suspect

1. he makes 2 sprawling saves with a guy at the crease and mathews banks it off of strome...he suppose have rebound control there??
2. pp deflection off a lost faceoff
3. traveras scores on a jam after a poor clearing attempt by keith long the boards after a faceoff win

in the final minute:

1 murphy fails to clear 2x leading to turnovers: leading to 3 great chances and a scramble/pileup and somehow the puck does not go in...oh and goalie int not called
2. delia with a wrap around save followed by a save from the high slot
3. seab with another poor clearing attempt and turnover
4. a mid slot tip knuckler very difficult to control; yet he made the save..
5. kruger also failed to clear to another

not to mention the open net chances they missed prior to the traveras goal...

delia was not the problem...

- bogiedoc


Well said...
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Mar 14 @ 7:46 PM ET
Not giving up 30 to 40 shots on goal a game. You're also kidding yourself if you think they can continue to be last in the league defensively on the PK and goals against. Winning 5-4 games is not the norm in the playoffs.

They are scoring lights out because of Toews comeback year, Kane's continual great play, DeBrincat's progression, and Gustafsson replacing DK on the PP. The defense is still atrocious as evidenced by last night's 3rd period.

- Hawkytalk


23 teams give up over 30 shots against per game. The Hawks have given up only 2 more shots per game then Tampa. It is not the total shots against, it is where the shots come from. You are right about the penalty killing, the Hawks have the worst save percentage on the penalty kill in the league.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Mar 14 @ 7:52 PM ET
yeah but us here at HockeyBuzz who criticize Seabrook are blashphemers and don't know what we're talking about. Anyone without Rose Colored 2010 Cup Glasses On can see where their games are. Keith is probably a #4 and Seabrook a #6 on good teams.
- EnzoD


Post of the day!!!!
Hawkytalk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Frankfort, IL
Joined: 06.26.2012

Mar 14 @ 8:00 PM ET
yeah but us here at HockeyBuzz who criticize Seabrook are blashphemers and don't know what we're talking about. Anyone without Rose Colored 2010 Cup Glasses On can see where their games are. Keith is probably a #4 and Seabrook a #6 on good teams.
- EnzoD


Totally agree. ...and JR is no genius by stating that. Just about everybody on this site has called them out all year at certain times. Keith should've been off the PP last year but Q showed his loyalty to a HOF player. All we're all asking is that they find a couple of defenseman to allow 2 and 7 to move down in the rotation and play less minutes. That will make the TEAM stronger next season.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Mar 14 @ 8:01 PM ET
Not giving up 30 to 40 shots on goal a game. You're also kidding yourself if you think they can continue to be last in the league defensively on the PK and goals against. Winning 5-4 games is not the norm in the playoffs.

They are scoring lights out because of Toews comeback year, Kane's continual great play, DeBrincat's progression, and Gustafsson replacing DK on the PP. The defense is still atrocious as evidenced by last night's 3rd period.

- Hawkytalk


Doom I say. A bunch here were positive they'd never win in 2013 and 2015. And now the same peeps are telling us something and promising it's true this time.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Mar 14 @ 8:02 PM ET
I see Dominik Kubalik's Swiss League team lost today which put them down 3-0 in the playoff series. Kubalik picked up 2 assists in the 5-3 loss. One more loss and Kubalik's season is over and I believe he would be eligible to sign with the Hawks and get in a few games before the end of the season. It would be nice to get a feel for him as a player before going into the off season.
- EbonyRaptor


But if he signs and plays a few games doesn't he burn a year off his ELC?. Rather not see that.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Mar 14 @ 8:02 PM ET
23 teams give up over 30 shots against per game. The Hawks have given up only 2 more shots per game then Tampa. It is not the total shots against, it is where the shots come from. You are right about the penalty killing, the Hawks have the worst save percentage on the penalty kill in the league.
- LAHawk


Stop yourself, LA, he's on a roll.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Mar 14 @ 8:06 PM ET
Totally agree. ...and JR is no genius by stating that. Just about everybody on this site has called them out all year at certain times. Keith should've been off the PP last year but Q showed his loyalty to a HOF player. All we're all asking is that they find a couple of defenseman to allow 2 and 7 to move down in the rotation and play less minutes. That will make the TEAM stronger next season.
- Hawkytalk


I say they get Hedman. Maybe Doughty, if the Kings keep 50%. Git 'er dun, Stan.
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Mar 14 @ 8:06 PM ET
But if he signs and plays a few games doesn't he burn a year off his ELC?. Rather not see that.
- boilermaker100


Yes, but that seems to be a common ploy used these days to entice a player into signing. He wouldn't sign with LA for some reason so I think burning a year would help convince him to sign with the Hawks. Plus, would let Stan see if he's NHL or AHL quality before going into the summer.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Mar 14 @ 8:06 PM ET
Puck drop in a couple of minutes for the game of the night, Bruins at Jets.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Mar 14 @ 8:08 PM ET
yeah but us here at HockeyBuzz who criticize Seabrook are blashphemers and don't know what we're talking about. Anyone without Rose Colored 2010 Cup Glasses On can see where their games are. Keith is probably a #4 and Seabrook a #6 on good teams.
- EnzoD

Enzo, back in 2010 and 2013 the Hawks had forwards on all 4 lines that knew how to play in each of the 3 zones. That makes every defenceman look much better.

And you can't rank Seabrook as a #6 while Connor Murphy is on this team. He sucks large. Even a declining Hammer would make this D group look much better.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Mar 14 @ 8:12 PM ET
One crap period - in a win, no less - and the same posters talking about playoffs the other day have swung back to doom.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Mar 14 @ 8:16 PM ET
One crap period - in a win, no less - and the same posters talking about playoffs the other day have swung back to doom.
- mohel


Wait, the next game is against Montreal, and we will get the we would of won more cups if we didn't trade Danault.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Mar 14 @ 8:16 PM ET
One crap period - in a win, no less - and the same posters talking about playoffs the other day have swung back to doom.
- mohel


Wait, the next game is against Montreal, and we will get the we would of won more cups if we didn't trade Danault.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Mar 14 @ 8:17 PM ET
Yes, but that seems to be a common ploy used these days to entice a player into signing. He wouldn't sign with LA for some reason so I think burning a year would help convince him to sign with the Hawks. Plus, would let Stan see if he's NHL or AHL quality before going into the summer.
- EbonyRaptor


Okay I see your line of thought. Plus it will give him some games on the smaller ice surface.
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