He knew Gardiner had back issues before the deadline, he also knew Rosen and Borgman were injured, he put his trust in Holl and Marincin, now we see the results of that misguided thinking.
- LeafMan

whose head do I call for Lou?

I still want to believe Holl could be.
- Aaron_85

I have zero faith in Holl..

Here’s who I think should play, in order.

Rosen
Sandin
Borgman
Liljegren
Holl
Marincin.

We will see, as of right now it is Rielly, Dermott, Zaitsev and Muzzin signed.

Two has to come from within or one from a big trade, Dubas has work to do.
- LeafMan

Trade Zaitsev. Ottawa has to reach the floor somehow.

whose head do I call for Lou?
- twiztedmike

Lums? Sorry, wrong “head.”

Dubas got Muzzin who does that.

the thing is when you get more of those players, and things dont improve, you just make up another reason and move the goal posts..

anyways its a waste of time arguing about it.
- senstroll

Well if you dont win... there is a reason for it right?

adding a Dman who is a SOB would be ideal

adding a forward that can hit or is a rat would also be nice.

whose head do I call for Lou?
- twiztedmike

Harold Ballard.

I have zero faith in Holl..

Here’s who I think should play, in order.

Rosen
Sandin
Borgman
Liljegren
Holl
Marincin.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Marincin should't be on that list all. He should not be playing. Period.

If you don't care, perhaps don't bring it up then. I feel that is a situation where all parties win.
- UsernameUnknown

Nah. When Anus plays like complete garbage, like he does most nights, I'll continue to bring it up. That's literally what these boards are for.

Harold Ballard.
- LeafMan

this is all his fault!!!

basically what I said earlier

it makes fans feel better...but thats mostly just it
for decades we have been told on TV thats what wins games
- senstroll

Ya it does and sometimes it makes the team feel better too?

I don't know, but from playing, when our team was sucking but one guy went out and got to work....kinda fired us all up.

I'm not talking goons but skilled energy guys....poop Kappy is kinda that guy, poop Hyman works all the time. One more like Kappy, not Hyman because of the stone hand condition, on F would help and one more on D would help.

Kinda like this, if Marincin or Oz...or Gardiner, for that matter...played like they do BUT once or twice a period laid out a big hit, roughed a guy up in front of the net or was a little heavy on the cross check on the box out without getting a penalty.....I would definitely hate all of them FAR LESS.

That's all I'm saying. If you suck, work harder or get the (frank) out.

Marincin should't be on that list all. He should not be playing. Period.
- UsernameUnknown

I totally agree.

He’s bad!!

that's what i expect a fan from a team who didn't get him would say
- Cherry--Skoal

they are 2-4 and he has 1 assist and no PIMS

does have 8 hits in those games... winning

Nah. When Anus plays like complete garbage, like he does most nights, I'll continue to bring it up. That's literally what these boards are for.
- GreatGigInTheSky

its funny...

most nights I'm wanting the team to play more like him.

He battles/ skates hard / can chip in a few

and hes a scrappy little guy - he actually will throw a body check now and again.

Marincin should't be on that list all. He should not be playing. Period.
- UsernameUnknown

Truth bomb.

I have zero faith in Holl..

Here’s who I think should play, in order.

Rosen
Sandin
Borgman
Liljegren
Holl
Marincin.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I rank Borgman deeper but I agree on the top 2.

they are 2-4 and he has 1 assist and no PIMS

does have 8 hits in those games... winning
- senstroll

There are times in the season i can look at 34 and give you the same stat

without the hits of course

intimidation is a real thing

thinking you're going to get hit so you move the puck a little quicker is a real thing

When teams play the leafs - they know they will just get stick checked - no need to force a play

A lot of people WILL NOT take a hit to make a play - again the leafs you don't have to worry about doing it.

We dont need guys with clubs

but we dot need a guy to throw an occasional body check
- Cherry--Skoal

One reason I miss Dermott is because he actually does throw the odd bodycheck when defending the zone, and he usually doesn't get caught doing so because he is smart about when to do it.
Muzzin can check, but I don't think he's been as physical as I expected.

I rank Borgman deeper but I agree on the top 2.
- Aaron_85

I like Borjeman..

Nah. When Anus plays like complete garbage, like he does most nights, I'll continue to bring it up. That's literally what these boards are for.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Having bad opinions? Yeah, you got that right.

Ya it does and sometimes it makes the team feel better too?

I don't know, but from playing, when our team was sucking but one guy went out and got to work....kinda fired us all up.

I'm not talking goons but skilled energy guys....poop Kappy is kinda that guy, poop Hyman works all the time. One more like Kappy, not Hyman because of the stone hand condition, on F would help and one more on D would help.

Kinda like this, if Marincin or Oz...or Gardiner, for that matter...played like they do BUT once or twice a period laid out a big hit, roughed a guy up in front of the net or was a little heavy on the cross check on the box out without getting a penalty.....I would definitely hate all of them FAR LESS.

That's all I'm saying. If you suck, work harder or get the (frank) out.
- Barb34

Get out of my head

One reason I miss Dermott is because he actually does throw the odd bodycheck when defending the zone, and he usually doesn't get caught doing so because he is smart about when to do it.
Muzzin can check, but I don't think he's been as physical as I expected.
- Thecakeisalie

Yup Dermott has a little F U to his game. Exactly what I want more of.

He is missed.

What a find.

There are times in the season i can look at 34 and give you the same stat

without the hits of course
- Cherry--Skoal

it says to me that Auston has 6 hits in the same time...so 2 more hits for Simmonds over 6 games ...wow

Truth bomb.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I don't care how many injuries the D has, he shouldn't be playing in the NHL. He shouldn't be in the organization. I play to all of the gods I know that Dubby doesn't re-sign him.

Yup Dermott has a little F U to his game. Exactly what I want more of.

He is missed.

What a find.
- Cherry--Skoal

FU

Happy?

Simmonds is awful now, not the player he was...Preds suck since they got him and he sucks
- senstroll

No problem saying I'm wrong...so guess I'm wrong. I "liked" Simmonds, sucks that he's done but I don't watch the Preds so didn't know.