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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Mar 18 @ 10:21 AM ET
Yup, just like most 40 goal scorers, Tavares is trash.
- PatC80


Wouldn't touch that snake with a 10 feet pole!


...

Because I'd probably get arrested or something.... who the hell pokes someone with a 10 feet pole?
.OHOH.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.30.2017

Mar 18 @ 10:22 AM ET
https://twitter.com/true2blueprint/status/1107285166739910657?s=21

Omg

- burn


Putting the TWAT in Twatter.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 18 @ 10:22 AM ET
Tough spot for the leafs
Luckily its not my problem

- Fakepartofme


and lucky for me as a fan
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Mar 18 @ 10:22 AM ET
I get a sense a lot of fans (myself included) really dont know how LTIR works


I assume the Leafs are cap smart and dont want to get into this hole. LTIR feels like a mechanism for a badly managed cap team that doesnt see another way out of a hole they created

- senstroll



That's a good explanation of LTIR. I always just thought that it allowed you to defer to the next season.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Mar 18 @ 10:24 AM ET
its probably a bigger deal than you think.
And it sounds very complicated and I am going to guess the Leafs dont want to use it

https://www.capfriendly.com/ltir-faq

https://www.reddit.com/r/...isconceptions_about_ltir/

- senstroll


Luckily there's a guy that has a job exactly for this type of stuff.

I'm sure it's complicated stuff, kind of like doing non-standard tax returns. But people can still do it.

Point is, we use it while we have to. Horton's contract is up after next year. Marleau's contract up after next year. Next year is gonna be less than ideal but better times are coming, from a cap perspective.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Mar 18 @ 10:27 AM ET
and lucky for me as a fan
- senstroll

Cool.
Lots of luck then.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 18 @ 10:32 AM ET
Luckily there's a guy that has a job exactly for this type of stuff.

I'm sure it's complicated stuff, kind of like doing non-standard tax returns. But people can still do it.

Point is, we use it while we have to. Horton's contract is up after next year. Marleau's contract up after next year. Next year is gonna be less than ideal but better times are coming, from a cap perspective.

- TheMussel


I get a sense you didnt really read the explanations.

anyways my bet is Dubas tries to get out from some of the bad deals instead of spending to the cap so he can use LTIR to get more cap space
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Mar 18 @ 10:36 AM ET
I get a sense you didnt really read the explanations.

anyways my bet is Dubas tries to get out from some of the bad deals instead of spending to the cap so he can use LTIR to get more cap space

- senstroll


I glanced over them.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Mar 18 @ 10:36 AM ET
Wouldn't touch that snake with a 10 feet pole!


...

Because I'd probably get arrested or something.... who the hell pokes someone with a 10 feet pole?

- Scabeh




Poor Johnny T..

No one wants to touch his pole....

Edit.. I read your post wrong.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Mar 18 @ 10:37 AM ET
I get a sense you didnt really read the explanations.

anyways my bet is Dubas tries to get out from some of the bad deals instead of spending to the cap so he can use LTIR to get more cap space

- senstroll



That seems logical.

I still think that Brown is the first "cap dump"
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Mar 18 @ 10:39 AM ET
I get a sense you didnt really read the explanations.

anyways my bet is Dubas tries to get out from some of the bad deals instead of spending to the cap so he can use LTIR to get more cap space

- senstroll

Hypothetically speaking can the leafs sign gardiner in the summer to say 6 million. Then he can have his surgery to repair his back. Ltir him and have him come back in Jan/feb. Would his contract be worth like 2 million (random number depending on games missed) on the books for the year?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Mar 18 @ 10:41 AM ET
Hypothetically speaking can the leafs sign gardiner in the summer to say 6 million. Then he can have his surgery to repair his back. Ltir him and have him come back in Jan/feb. Would his contract be worth like 2 million (random number depending on games missed) on the books for the year?
- bryant



Why would we do that?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Mar 18 @ 10:42 AM ET


Poor Johnny T..

No one wants to touch his pole....

Edit.. I read your post wrong.

- PatC80


Ya think?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Mar 18 @ 10:44 AM ET
Ya think?
- Scabeh



I good read
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Mar 18 @ 10:44 AM ET
Putting the TWAT in Twatter.
- .OHOH.


40 goals and leads the NHl in 5 on 5 goals. He sucks!
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 18 @ 10:44 AM ET
That seems logical.

I still think that Brown is the first "cap dump"

- PatC80



The Leafs should move Brown + for Jesse Puljujarvi. He wants out of Edmonton and Connor Brown is an ex-linemate of Connor McDavid. It fixes a problem at both ends. Puljujarvi is 6' 4" and can skate. The Oilers have mishandled him from the start and given a fresh opportunity, he might excel. Brown can give them help on the PK and may get back to his rookie scoring level, with McDavid on his line. The plus could be a draft pick, or selling them on taking Zaitsev off of our hands. The Leafs may have to take a partial salary dump, to make this happen.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Mar 18 @ 10:46 AM ET
The Leafs should move Brown + for Jesse Puljujarvi. He wants out of Edmonton and Connor Brown is an ex-linemate of Connor McDavid. It fixes a problem at both ends. Puljujarvi is 6' 4" and can skate. The Oilers have mishandled him from the start and given a fresh opportunity, he might excel. Brown can give them help on the PK and may get back to his rookie scoring level, with McDavid on his line. The plus could be a draft pick, or selling them on taking Zaitsev off of our hands. The Leafs may have to take a partial salary dump, to make this happen.
- PrinceLH

Adding Zaitsev to any deal makes it less appealing...it's more subtraction.
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Mar 18 @ 10:48 AM ET
The Leafs should move Brown + for Jesse Puljujarvi. He wants out of Edmonton and Connor Brown is an ex-linemate of Connor McDavid. It fixes a problem at both ends. Puljujarvi is 6' 4" and can skate. The Oilers have mishandled him from the start and given a fresh opportunity, he might excel. Brown can give them help on the PK and may get back to his rookie scoring level, with McDavid on his line. The plus could be a draft pick, or selling them on taking Zaitsev off of our hands. The Leafs may have to take a partial salary dump, to make this happen.
- PrinceLH


Zaits has actually been OK without Gardiner, we might just keep him.

Plus how the hell can the Leafs take on a salary dump?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Mar 18 @ 10:48 AM ET
The Leafs should move Brown + for Jesse Puljujarvi. He wants out of Edmonton and Connor Brown is an ex-linemate of Connor McDavid. It fixes a problem at both ends. Puljujarvi is 6' 4" and can skate. The Oilers have mishandled him from the start and given a fresh opportunity, he might excel. Brown can give them help on the PK and may get back to his rookie scoring level, with McDavid on his line. The plus could be a draft pick, or selling them on taking Zaitsev off of our hands. The Leafs may have to take a partial salary dump, to make this happen.
- PrinceLH



All good in theory...

Just two questions?

1- Why would Edmonton make that trade?
2- Since both the Leafs and Oilers are up against the cap and neither team can take on a cap dump, which cap dump do we get for them taking our cap dump?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Mar 18 @ 10:49 AM ET
Adding Zaitsev to any deal makes it less appealing...it's more subtraction.
- RickJames77


Shh.... We're getting to that... you are too far ahead of the rest of the class.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Mar 18 @ 10:50 AM ET
Zaits has actually been OK without Gardiner, we might just keep him.

Plus how the hell can the Leafs take on a salary dump?

- TrashPanda


Zaitsev has been better with Muzzin.. I just don't know how we, or the Oilers for that matter, can take on a salary dump?
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Mar 18 @ 10:51 AM ET
Zaitsev has been better with Muzzin.. I just don't know how we, or the Oilers for that matter, can take on a salary dump?
- PatC80


They can't. It's just another in the long line of things that only make sense to PrinceLH.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Mar 18 @ 10:51 AM ET
The Leafs should move Brown + for Jesse Puljujarvi. He wants out of Edmonton and Connor Brown is an ex-linemate of Connor McDavid. It fixes a problem at both ends. Puljujarvi is 6' 4" and can skate. The Oilers have mishandled him from the start and given a fresh opportunity, he might excel. Brown can give them help on the PK and may get back to his rookie scoring level, with McDavid on his line. The plus could be a draft pick, or selling them on taking Zaitsev off of our hands. The Leafs may have to take a partial salary dump, to make this happen.
- PrinceLH


GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Mar 18 @ 10:53 AM ET
https://twitter.com/true2blueprint/status/1107285166739910657?s=21

Omg

- burn




bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Mar 18 @ 10:58 AM ET
Why would we do that?
- PatC80

I guess I’m one of the few that thinks gardiner adds value to this team.
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