I heard about this last winter, when I jokingly called him clank

kept it to myself for 14 or 15 moves due to the love affair people have with him


again he is a very good player, before anyone changes my words
- homiedclown

It also could just be that he needs to grow up a little

Guys will argue & get on each other when the losses are piling up
Doesn’t mean they hate each other
Winning games will squash A LOT of that kinda stuff in the locker room

Hard to figure out what Minny will do
They’re stuck with the Parise & Suter contracts...
so it kinda keeps them in “win now” mode

But they gotta realize they just can’t really compete with the Preds & Jets

Maybe moving the younger Vets like Spurgeon, Zucker, etc would be the best way for them to rebuild on the fly?
- jdfitz77

They had a trade in place to send Zucker to Calgary at the deadline apparently for a 1st rounder + but it fell through. Can’t remember the reason behind it.

It also could just be that he needs to grow up a little

Guys will argue & get on each other when the losses are piling up
Doesn’t mean they hate each other
Winning games will squash A LOT of that kinda stuff in the locker room
- jdfitz77

probably

They had a trade in place to send Zucker to Calgary at the deadline apparently for a 1st rounder + but it fell through. Can’t remember the reason behind it.
- Pegullaville

cap space?

cap space?
- homiedclown

Reason is uncertain. However Russo, Lebrun, Dreger all mentioned something was there.

They had a trade in place to send Zucker to Calgary at the deadline apparently for a 1st rounder + but it fell through. Can’t remember the reason behind it.
- Pegullaville

Zucker is definitely a guy I’d look at
Can score 25+ and has really good speed
He just turned 27
And he’s under contract at 5.5m per,
for 4 more seasons

As long as the price is right,
he’s pretty much exactly what we are looking for

It also could just be that he needs to grow up a little

Guys will argue & get on each other when the losses are piling up
Doesn’t mean they hate each other
Winning games will squash A LOT of that kinda stuff in the locker room
- jdfitz77

But is the team going to win next year? Or is it going to be another tank season from JB?

Considering how most every player on the roster now is under contract for next year as well.

Reason is uncertain. However Russo, Lebrun, Dreger all mentioned something was there.
- Pegullaville

They’re gonna have to pay Tkachuk in the offseason
And Hammonic & Brodie after next
Plus figure out goaltending somehow

That Neal contract is gonna hurt them

But is the team going to win next year? Or is it going to be another tank season from JB?

Considering how most every player on the roster now is under contract for next year as well.
- PrinceChill

Impossible to say

I don’t think this season was a “tank” year at all
I think the goal was to compete for the playoffs

But this year has gone so poorly,
that if we lose Skinner...
“Tanking” for Lefreniere has to at least be a consideration unfortunately

If we keep Skinner...
then i think Botts continues to add to the team now

But is the team going to win next year? Or is it going to be another tank season from JB?

Considering how most every player on the roster now is under contract for next year as well.
- PrinceChill

We’ll have 28M in cap space I believe even with the guys we have signed through next year. Additions can be made. The Sens have all the cap space in the world so maybe they’ll take Scandella/Sobotka to hit the cap floor and help them tank next year.

Impossible to say

I don’t think this season was a “tank” year at all
I think the goal was to compete for the playoffs

But this year has gone so poorly,
that if we lose Skinner...
“Tanking” for Lefreniere has to at least be a consideration unfortunately

If we keep Skinner...
then i think Botts continues to add to the team now
- jdfitz77

Careful...to suggest this wasn’t a tank season could imply that a misstep might’ve been taken by Botts.

Careful...to suggest this wasn’t a tank season could imply that a misstep might’ve been taken by Botts.
- PrinceChill

planned on berglund and casey to be 2nd and 3rd line center

no plan B when berglund didn't pan out and casey wasn't ready

and honestly during the 10 game win streak, casey looked like he was ready to step up


his game just fell off the planet after that game winning shoot out goal

If we keep Skinner...
then i think Botts continues to add to the team now
- jdfitz77

if skinner walks


you almost have to move risto, bogo, and consider tanking with a few young kids up front


to compete in the fall, they need to add to the top 6, not have one of their 3 fixtures in the top 6 walk

Careful...to suggest this wasn’t a tank season could imply that a misstep might’ve been taken by Botts.
- PrinceChill

When jbotts didnt make a trade to upgrade this roster after the 10 game win streak, he showed his hand.

He easily could have traded futures to win this season.

He didn't.

Montour was a good addition. He isn't keeping us from drafting top 10

We’ll have 28M in cap space I believe even with the guys we have signed through next year. Additions can be made. The Sens have all the cap space in the world so maybe they’ll take Scandella/Sobotka to hit the cap floor and help them tank next year.
- Pegullaville

Additions through free agency could be tricky. Players might want an overpayment to go to a perennial loser. Although I suppose someone could be sold on a one year deal if they feel like they could pad their stats playing with Jack.

JB so far hasn’t demonstrated an ability to get other teams to take his cap dumps. Rather, he seems more inclined to take them on from other teams.

Additions through free agency could be tricky. Players might want an overpayment to go to a perennial loser. Although I suppose someone could be sold on a one year deal if they feel like they could pad their stats playing with Jack.

JB so far hasn’t demonstrated an ability to get other teams to take his cap dumps. Rather, he seems more inclined to take them on from other teams.
- PrinceChill

Options are few and far between. It will be interesting to see how Botts plays it out.

Additions through free agency could be tricky. Players might want an overpayment to go to a perennial loser. Although I suppose someone could be sold on a one year deal if they feel like they could pad their stats playing with Jack.

JB so far hasn’t demonstrated an ability to get other teams to take his cap dumps. Rather, he seems more inclined to take them on from other teams.
- PrinceChill

Tyler ennis and marcus foligno were 2 good cap dumps

Careful...to suggest this wasn’t a tank season could imply that a misstep might’ve been taken by Botts.
- PrinceChill

Botts plan for THIS season was an utter failure

That’s plain & simple to see
Mitts & Tage still need developing
Berglund & Sobatka were pretty much useless
Sheary only worked out when he played with Jack

Rochester doing well at least
So he gets points for that i guess

Tyler ennis and marcus foligno were 2 good cap dumps
- Boss34

And taking on Scanner and Pommer?

Botts plan for THIS season was an utter failure

That’s plain & simple to see
Mitts & Tage still need developing
Berglund & Sobatka were pretty much useless
Sheary only worked out when he played with Jack

Rochester doing well at least
So he gets points for that i guess
- jdfitz77

The success of the Amerks is a feel-good story, but I wish they were led by good young prospects instead of 30 year old career AHLers.

And taking on Scanner and Pommer?
- PrinceChill

Pomms is done after this year. Wild had to buy out Ennis. Foligno provides next to nothing with the Wild. Scandella is gone after next year if he isn’t moved this offseason.

How much does a contract for Trouba cost?
Something in the area of 7mil per would be my guess
That’s pretty pricy imo

I’d call Anaheim back up & see if they wanna make more changes this offseason

Minny has gotta be about ready for an overhaul too I’d think
- jdfitz77

Risto + might equal a Trouba contract, or come close to it. Even if it doesn't, Risto + for one of the game's better Dmen is a no-brainer. Which is why Winnipeg doesn't do it.

if skinner walks


you almost have to move risto, bogo, and consider tanking with a few young kids up front


to compete in the fall, they need to add to the top 6, not have one of their 3 fixtures in the top 6 walk
- homiedclown

In addition to the 2 top6 guys we moved last year

Losing Skinner will hurt,
but it might be best for the long term

Sucks bc Toronto got good so quick
And we were hoping we’d have a Pittsburgh/Chicago rebuild

But look how long it took Tampa to win with Stamkos & the Caps to win with OV

Doing this thing RIGHT might take a bit longer than we all thought / were hoping for

Risto + might equal a Trouba contract, or come close to it. Even if it doesn't, Risto + for one of the game's better Dmen is a no-brainer. Which is why Winnipeg doesn't do it.
- Powerslave

Trouba has made it known he wants out of Winnipeg numerous times. Unless he has changed his tune the last couple of months. The Risto + was mostly sarcasm on my end but who really knows these days.

The success of the Amerks is a feel-good story, but I wish they were led by good young prospects instead of 30 year old career AHLers.
- PrinceChill

Fair point