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sILKAsSINASALO
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2018

Mar 22 @ 12:17 PM ET
If Hextall we’re still here, Hakstol would still be here, and we would be contending for Jack Hughes instead of watching interesting hockey.
- SuperSchennBros

I'm so glad hak is gone. He never had this team playing for him. Nobody gave him a nod of confidence on his departure.
The team didnt like the old regime and from the sounds of it I don't blame the players.
With that said....if there is another slow start next season I dont know what is left to do besides blow up the core
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Mar 22 @ 12:22 PM ET
I really think they ride Hart until they are eliminated. Then they probably throw some games to Talbot.
- dragonoffrost


Hart as starter yes but I wouldnt play him for all 8 games, especially Sat\Sun B2B.
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Mar 22 @ 12:30 PM ET
Bill,

If the Isles dress Mark Martin, Clutterbuck, Mayfield and Ross Johnston do you see Gordon dressing Morin just as a precaution?

I get they are trying to ice the best team while they are mathematically in it but it's not beyond the Isles to try to run people through the end boards if they feel they can get away with it as a message on the Boychuk incident....especially if they have a playoff spot locked up.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 22 @ 12:37 PM ET
I'm so glad hak is gone. He never had this team playing for him. Nobody gave him a nod of confidence on his departure.
The team didnt like the old regime and from the sounds of it I don't blame the players.
With that said....if there is another slow start next season I dont know what is left to do besides blow up the core

- sILKAsSINASALO

What Hextall did from a business standpoint of Stocking the cupboards was outstanding but he Neglected the product on the ice.

This summer there are no excuses. You have three skilled centers, top line wingers, a number one defenseman with support and a starting goalie. Get a big fish coach and fill in the gaps.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 22 @ 12:47 PM ET
Bill,

If the Isles dress Mark Martin, Clutterbuck, Mayfield and Ross Johnston do you see Gordon dressing Morin just as a precaution?

I get they are trying to ice the best team while they are mathematically in it but it's not beyond the Isles to try to run people through the end boards if they feel they can get away with it as a message on the Boychuk incident....especially if they have a playoff spot locked up.

- juiced



Do you think it's a good idea or reasonable to play Morin and saddle him with the responsibility of taking on any physical battles that may occur due to the Boychuk incident?
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Mar 22 @ 12:49 PM ET
Do you think it's a good idea or reasonable to play Morin and saddle him with the responsibility of taking on any physical battles that may occur due to the Boychuk incident?
- MJL


Yes. He's going to get hurt anyways. Might as well make it count
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Mar 22 @ 12:52 PM ET
Anyone know what these numbers are?

26 13 7
19 19 6
26 12 6
21 12 3
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 22 @ 12:52 PM ET
Bill,

If the Isles dress Mark Martin, Clutterbuck, Mayfield and Ross Johnston do you see Gordon dressing Morin just as a precaution?

I get they are trying to ice the best team while they are mathematically in it but it's not beyond the Isles to try to run people through the end boards if they feel they can get away with it as a message on the Boychuk incident....especially if they have a playoff spot locked up.

- juiced


Alright Sam, you've played a grand total of 3 games all year and have been sitting in the press box for month...Go out there, run around and smash people and fight a bunch of tough guys!!!

What a GOOD idea.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Mar 22 @ 12:55 PM ET
Alright Sam, you've played a grand total of 3 games all year and have been sitting in the press box for month...Go out there, run around and smash people and fight a bunch of tough guys!!!

What a GOOD idea.

- jmatchett383



Flyers need the win more then anything. I know it sucks to say but if the Islanders run around to just hit and fight then you take it, take the PP's and try to get out of there with a win.

And I love good physical fights and chaos. but they need the win more
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 22 @ 12:57 PM ET
Alright Sam, you've played a grand total of 3 games all year and have been sitting in the press box for month...Go out there, run around and smash people and fight a bunch of tough guys!!!

What a GOOD idea.

- jmatchett383


If other people posted in this manner, you would complain over multiple pages of the thread.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 22 @ 1:00 PM ET
If other people posted in this manner, you would complain over multiple pages of the thread.
- MJL


That's ridiculous, wheat bread is for savages.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 22 @ 1:04 PM ET
Flyers need the win more then anything. I know it sucks to say but if the Islanders run around to just hit and fight then you take it, take the PP's and try to get out of there with a win.

And I love good physical fights and chaos. but they need the win more

- J35Bacher


Agreed.

That being said, I think we've reached the apex of the Corban Knight experiment with his goal last night, and would rather go with 11F/7D the next 2 games. Has nothing to do with Morin being an intimidating force, I'd just like them to use it for a game or 2 as an avenue to get him acclimated.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 22 @ 1:05 PM ET
Bill,

If the Isles dress Mark Martin, Clutterbuck, Mayfield and Ross Johnston do you see Gordon dressing Morin just as a precaution?

I get they are trying to ice the best team while they are mathematically in it but it's not beyond the Isles to try to run people through the end boards if they feel they can get away with it as a message on the Boychuk incident....especially if they have a playoff spot locked up.

- juiced


I think Boychuk is a jackass, but I think he'll fight his own battle on this one, if a battle is to be fought.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 22 @ 1:12 PM ET
I think Boychuk is a jackass, but I think he'll fight his own battle on this one, if a battle is to be fought.
- johndewar


I agree. Let Boychuk and Voracek go at it and that will be the end of it. Atleast it should be.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 22 @ 1:14 PM ET
I agree. Let Boychuk and Voracek go at it and that will be the end of it. Atleast it should be.
- MJL


Exactly. And Jake isn't one to shy away if challenged, so if Boychuk wants a fight, Jake will likely oblige him and that should end it.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 22 @ 1:16 PM ET
Alright Sam, you've played a grand total of 3 games all year and have been sitting in the press box for month...Go out there, run around and smash people and fight a bunch of tough guys!!!

What a GOOD idea.

- jmatchett383


He's played a grand total of 7 games since November 2017 and only was able to finish 4 of them (re-aggravation of core muscle issue during outdoor game in Hershey in January 2018, tore ACL in 1st pd of game 3 of Charlotte series last April, dehydration/cramping issues in his first AHL conditioning stint game).

So Sam has essentially only played four games in the last 16 months. There is zero chance they'll dress him tomorrow night. Even if there were two injuries or two more flu victims who have to miss a game, they'd call up someone who has at least been playing.

Morin will ONLY see a game or two after the Flyers are mathematically eliminated. Even then, they might just table it until training camp when he'll have had a full healthy summer (knock wood) and is on equal game-conditioning footing.

Even if you dress him before this season ends, you can't possibly get a fair gauge on his play after all the time he's missed. It would give him a bit of peace of mind but beyond that, there really isn't much benefit to it.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Mar 22 @ 1:18 PM ET
I think Boychuk is a jackass, but I think he'll fight his own battle on this one, if a battle is to be fought.
- johndewar



can't have Jake in the box for 5
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Mar 22 @ 1:19 PM ET
He's played a grand total of 7 games since November 2017 and only was able to finish 4 of them (re-aggravation of core muscle issue during outdoor game in Hershey in January 2018, tore ACL in 1st pd of game 3 of Charlotte series last April, dehydration/cramping issues in his first AHL conditioning stint game).

So Sam has essentially only played four games in the last 16 months. There is zero chance they'll dress him tomorrow night. Even if there were two injuries or two more flu victims who have to miss a game, they'd call up someone who has at least been playing.

Morin will ONLY see a game or two after the Flyers are mathematically eliminated. Even then, they might just table it until training camp when he'll have had a full healthy summer (knock wood) and is on equal game-conditioning footing.

Even if you dress him before this season ends, you can't possibly get a fair gauge on his play after all the time he's missed. It would give him a bit of peace of mind but beyond that, there really isn't much benefit to it.

- bmeltzer


how many are fighting the Flu now?
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Mar 22 @ 1:21 PM ET
I agree. Let Boychuk and Voracek go at it and that will be the end of it. Atleast it should be.
- MJL
'


don't play Morin because in part they can still make the playoffs, main reason is that he hasn't played

That said back to reason 1

if they are trying to win do we want Jake in the box for 5? or possibly hurt?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 22 @ 1:22 PM ET
can't have Jake in the box for 5
- wcorvette


They'll be fine for 5 minutes. Plus, think of the possibilities of double shifting ANGRY JAKE after sitting for 5 minutes!
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Mar 22 @ 1:22 PM ET
That's ridiculous, wheat bread is for savages.
- jmatchett383



very passive aggressive of you
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 22 @ 1:24 PM ET
very passive aggressive of you
- wcorvette


inorite

When I see that he's quoted one of my posts, I save myself the trouble of reading whatever literary genius it is that he typed.

That being said, when it comes to sandwich bread, white or die!
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Mar 22 @ 1:30 PM ET
Anyone know what these numbers are?

26 13 7
19 19 6
26 12 6
21 12 3

- FlyerFan16


Since no one wants to play. If my math is correct, these are the Flyers record each of the last 4 years from January 1st until the end of the year, with this year being incomplete.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 22 @ 1:34 PM ET
Since no one wants to play. If my math is correct, these are the Flyers record each of the last 4 years from January 1st until the end of the year, with this year being incomplete.
- FlyerFan16


No, they're Flyers' line combos.

Don't you remember the Druce - Metropolit - Barber line of the mid 80s?

I mean, they weren't as memorable as the Kordic - Falloon - McGillis combo, but they're better than the Renberg - Daigle - Lilja line.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Mar 22 @ 1:46 PM ET
inorite

When I see that he's quoted one of my posts, I save myself the trouble of reading whatever literary genius it is that he typed.

That being said, when it comes to sandwich bread, white or die!

- jmatchett383



Don’t like rye?
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