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Djapana
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sunset Dreaming, FL
Joined: 09.16.2017

Mar 22 @ 1:48 PM ET
He's played a grand total of 7 games since November 2017 and only was able to finish 4 of them (re-aggravation of core muscle issue during outdoor game in Hershey in January 2018, tore ACL in 1st pd of game 3 of Charlotte series last April, dehydration/cramping issues in his first AHL conditioning stint game).

So Sam has essentially only played four games in the last 16 months. There is zero chance they'll dress him tomorrow night. Even if there were two injuries or two more flu victims who have to miss a game, they'd call up someone who has at least been playing.

Morin will ONLY see a game or two after the Flyers are mathematically eliminated. Even then, they might just table it until training camp when he'll have had a full healthy summer (knock wood) and is on equal game-conditioning footing.

Even if you dress him before this season ends, you can't possibly get a fair gauge on his play after all the time he's missed. It would give him a bit of peace of mind but beyond that, there really isn't much benefit to it.

- bmeltzer


Thanks for setting the record straight on Morin. It just amazes me how many still think that he is an impact player, ready to go, just waiting for his shot. Nothing in his recent history indicates that this is so.
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Mar 22 @ 1:49 PM ET
No, they're Flyers' line combos.

Don't you remember the Druce - Metropolit - Barber line of the mid 80s?

I mean, they weren't as memorable as the Kordic - Falloon - McGillis combo, but they're better than the Renberg - Daigle - Lilja line.

- jmatchett383

They could be Flyer lines.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 22 @ 1:50 PM ET
how many are fighting the Flu now?
- wcorvette


At least 10 guys either have it (including a couple that played through it last night), had it pretty severely and are now feeling better (Hartman, Giroux, Myers, Morin) or are starting to come down with it.

Yes, they had flu shots. No it didn't prevent it. A lot of teams are flu-riddled around the league right now but the Flyers have been especially hard hit.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 22 @ 2:04 PM ET
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don't play Morin because in part they can still make the playoffs, main reason is that he hasn't played

That said back to reason 1

if they are trying to win do we want Jake in the box for 5? or possibly hurt?

- wcorvette


No we don't want either of the latter but it has to happen.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 22 @ 2:05 PM ET
Anyone know what these numbers are?

26 13 7
19 19 6
26 12 6
21 12 3

- FlyerFan16


I'll do you one better. Does anyone know what these numbers are:

45 36 52
54 53 54
35 50 93
19 4 84
jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

Mar 22 @ 2:15 PM ET
I'll do you one better. Does anyone know what these numbers are:

45 36 52
54 53 54
35 50 93
19 4 84

- jmatchett383

Weird measurements of fat people?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 22 @ 2:16 PM ET
Weird measurements of fat people?
- jaws1955


That is a great guess, but not even close.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Mar 22 @ 2:16 PM ET
Ladies and Gentlemen.

We finally have the franchise goalie we have been seeking, and we have him for the foreseeable future. (as does my fantasy keeper team)

There, I said it.

- MBFlyerfan


Cue Hart tripping over a crack in the sidewalk and suffering a career ending injury in T minus 5, 4, 3...

{Negadelphia reigns!)

He does seem like the real deal so someone should lock him in the training room and keep him out of trouble in the offseason.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 22 @ 2:20 PM ET
Thanks for setting the record straight on Morin. It just amazes me how many still think that he is an impact player, ready to go, just waiting for his shot. Nothing in his recent history indicates that this is so.
- Djapana

People ready scratch Hägg for Morin and Hägg was long making the team before Morin got hurt.
Girouxsalem90
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Upstate, NY
Joined: 05.28.2013

Mar 22 @ 2:24 PM ET
Who are those 3? Hart is one of the most decorated junior goalies in history.
- MJL

I'd say Ersson looks like he has a shot to get there, the guy is having a dominate year, and is poised to make is senior national team debut at 19 years old. Ustimenko and Sandstrom are fine prospects, maybe even NHL starter level potential, but not franchise goalie level prospects like Hart appears to be, and Ersson appears to have the potential for. Regardless, it's a breath of fresh air to have home grown goalies looking like they could be the real deal for the first time in a very long time.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Mar 22 @ 2:27 PM ET
Since no one wants to play. If my math is correct, these are the Flyers record each of the last 4 years from January 1st until the end of the year, with this year being incomplete.
- FlyerFan16


They kinda looked like someone’s 3 on 3 player lineup combos at first glance, but the 19 19 threw that out.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 22 @ 2:29 PM ET
Pick you favorite:

Niinimaa or Pitkanen

McGillis or Gauthier
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Mar 22 @ 2:29 PM ET
can't have Jake in the box for 5
- wcorvette


Put Bailey in Jake's Jersey and vice versa.

Tim Sauders: I wonder why Coach Gordon is giving Bailey so much time this period.
Coatsey: I dunno Tim. Coach must have seen something he liked in that Chicago game, but there also seems to be something a bit different with Bailey tonight too. Has he been working on his beard?
jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

Mar 22 @ 2:29 PM ET
That is a great guess, but not even close.
- jmatchett383

Didn't really think so, but at least I played.
jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

Mar 22 @ 2:32 PM ET
Pick you favorite:

Niinimaa or Pitkanen

McGillis or Gauthier

- jmatchett383



Think I liked Pitkanen a bit more. McGillis for sure.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 22 @ 2:33 PM ET
Didn't really think so, but at least I played.
- jaws1955


The answer was, "Random numbers that I typed."
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Mar 22 @ 2:43 PM ET
At least 10 guys either have it (including a couple that played through it last night), had it pretty severely and are now feeling better (Hartman, Giroux, Myers, Morin) or are starting to come down with it.

Yes, they had flu shots. No it didn't prevent it. A lot of teams are flu-riddled around the league right now but the Flyers have been especially hard hit.

- bmeltzer


Thanks for the information. The flu outbreak has no doubt had an impact on the play in the last 4 or so games. It would be great to be in a better position for playoffs so that the little problems that crop up aren’t so impactful.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 22 @ 2:49 PM ET
Great hockey fact of the day:

I just learned that the next time I say, "Remember that time Stu Grismon went crazy and tried to fight an entire team by himself?" that I have to specify which time I'm talking about.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Mar 22 @ 2:53 PM ET
At least 10 guys either have it (including a couple that played through it last night), had it pretty severely and are now feeling better (Hartman, Giroux, Myers, Morin) or are starting to come down with it.

Yes, they had flu shots. No it didn't prevent it. A lot of teams are flu-riddled around the league right now but the Flyers have been especially hard hit.

- bmeltzer


Flu shots arent designed to prevent the Flu. They are designed to teach your body how to fight it if you get it. That is why they inject you with a Benign flu virus
jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

Mar 22 @ 2:53 PM ET
The answer was, "Random numbers that I typed."
- jmatchett383

That's what I thought the other "numbers" post was.
jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

Mar 22 @ 2:56 PM ET
Flu shots arent designed to prevent the Flu. They are designed to teach your body how to fight it if you get it. That is why they inject you with a Benign flu virus
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Only had a flu shot once, felt like poop for days after.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 22 @ 2:58 PM ET
It sucks , in a way to say this, but I am already counting down the days to next season.

More young players, more Hart , possibly a new coach (not that I think Gordon is horrible) and whatever inevitable moves they make in the off season.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 22 @ 2:58 PM ET
Only had a flu shot once, felt like poop for days after.
- jaws1955


I didn't ever get one until I had kids. Never had the flu since.

I mean, it's just a small version of a dead virus based on what they THINK the most common strain will be, so it's not exactly an immunization...but it's better than nothing.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 22 @ 2:59 PM ET
It sucks , in a way to say this, but I am already counting down the days to next season.

More young players, more Hart , possibly a new coach (not that I think Gordon is horrible) and whatever inevitable moves they make in the off season.

- opeth_pa


We're trading Hart for a veteran. Because "action."
Djapana
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sunset Dreaming, FL
Joined: 09.16.2017

Mar 22 @ 3:04 PM ET
Only had a flu shot once, felt like poop for days after.
- jaws1955



Approximately 1978 I got a shot for the swine flu. It made me more sick than I have ever been. I never got another flu shot and I never regretted it.
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