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Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 28 @ 12:58 PM ET
JBotts stated from the beginning that he wanted to build a winner in Rochester that would eventually transition to Buffalo. Would the team be in a much better position if Nylander was here all year or if Olofsson was called up in November? Perhaps, but unlikely we'd be in the playoffs. I feel their time this year in Rochester helped their development more than if they played here all season.
And although the Sabres may have a better record at the end of the year, in the long run the team will be better picking 5th instead of 15th.

- adambuffalo

I agree with your last statement. I've always said I'd rather have a top pick over missing the playoffs by a couple points. My issue with how things were handled is geared towards Thompson getting the full year when he didnt earn or deserve it. Obviously got it because he's a botts guy and olofsson/nylander are murray guys.
Whatnot78
Buffalo Sabres
Location: last place heros, VA
Joined: 02.21.2007

Mar 28 @ 12:59 PM ET
Is E-Rod hurt?

Olofsson - Eichel - Reinhart
Skinner - Mittelstadt - Pominville
Sheary - Sobotka - Nylander
Girgensons - Larsson - Okposo


I'd flip Pommer and Nylander and put E-Rod where Sobotka is

- Stripes77


E-rod is hurt from that boarding penalty last game.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Mar 28 @ 1:05 PM ET
lol I'll never forget getting run out of here for saying that Leino was a bad signing at the time.
- BINGO!

I believe Homie said Leino would get at least 50 points here... And he meant during the season.
ManitouSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.11.2018

Mar 28 @ 1:16 PM ET
Victor Olofsson - Jack Eichel - Sam Reinhart

Was so expecting Gum to pair him with Sobotka.




Conor Sheary - Vladimir Sobotka - Alex Nylander

Ah there it is, delegate one of our best players right now to our terrible 3rd line.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 28 @ 1:17 PM ET
I believe Homie said Leino would get at least 50 points here... And he meant during the season.
- jochfr


seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Mar 28 @ 1:27 PM ET
I agree with your last statement. I've always said I'd rather have a top pick over missing the playoffs by a couple points. My issue with how things were handled is geared towards Thompson getting the full year when he didnt earn or deserve it. Obviously got it because he's a botts guy and olofsson/nylander are murray guys.
- Smittyx36


We should have sent Tage directly to Roch after the ROR trade and plucked any warm body off of waivers or made a reasonable trade to fill his spot. He obviously didnt help this team and it doesnt look like he developed much.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Mar 28 @ 1:30 PM ET
I believe Homie said Leino would get at least 50 points here... And he meant during the season.
- jochfr

Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 28 @ 1:31 PM ET
Victor Olofsson - Jack Eichel - Sam Reinhart

Was so expecting Gum to pair him with Sobotka.




Conor Sheary - Vladimir Sobotka - Alex Nylander

Ah there it is, delegate one of our best players right now to our terrible 3rd line.

- ManitouSabres


Yup

I like the first line

But I would play Nylander with Casey

Who cares about defense at this point. I want to see young skill with young skill
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Mar 28 @ 1:44 PM ET
Could there be something deeper that’s wrong with this organization?
ROR: Lost love for the game here. Wanted out.
Lehner: Alcohol abuse, depression, suicidal thoughts.
Okposo: Depression, suicidal thoughts.
Berglund: Depression, walked away from a pile of money to leave this team.

Does any other team in the league have a list like this? 3/4 of these guys could not be happier to be away from this place. And the other one probably wouldn’t mind splitting either.

Even the players without clinically diagnosed problems look miserable. Now the fans have no choice but to cheer for losses and hold expectations that this next draft pick will be the one to finally turn everything around. I wish that guy the best of luck.

- PrinceChill


This is fact.
Not the fans fault they look for any bright light in a season full of failures.
But some Express their own frustration rather poorly.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Mar 28 @ 1:47 PM ET
Victor Olofsson - Jack Eichel - Sam Reinhart

Was so expecting Gum to pair him with Sobotka.




Conor Sheary - Vladimir Sobotka - Alex Nylander

Ah there it is, delegate one of our best players right now to our terrible 3rd line.

- ManitouSabres



Hard work and a sniper doesn’t get any respect oh well
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Mar 28 @ 1:53 PM ET
We should have sent Tage directly to Roch after the ROR trade and plucked any warm body off of waivers or made a reasonable trade to fill his spot. He obviously didnt help this team and it doesnt look like he developed much.
- seedy


Botts wanted to prove that getting Tage was not a mistake so give him the chance in Buffalo. It failed. I would have loved him in Rochester on a line with Smith and Porter. If he did well down there he would have got the call up. He would have developed properly. Heck, when he was in St. Louis he played some games in San Antonio.

I'm starting to have serious doubts about Botterill as a GM. And the reason why Rochester is doing so well this year is because of Randy Sexton and Taylor. Not Botterill.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Mar 28 @ 2:00 PM ET
My dudes,

I copied the below from the Hamster piece on GR. Pretty awesome. I mean what else is Dahlin going to say, but I think there will be some good camaraderie between Goalofsson and Dahlin. Kinda excited to watch tonight.

Victor Olofsson makes his NHL debut on a line with Jack Eichel and Sam Reinhart. Olofsson played in the SHL with Rasmus Dahlin who said wait until you see his shot, “He’s probably has the best shot I’ve ever seen in my life, it’s unbelievable.

“It’s so quick and so hard and it’s probably so tough for the goalies. I’m going to give him the puck on the power play and hopefully he scores.”


other lines:

Girgensons Larsson Okposo

Skinner Mittelstadt Pominville

Sheary Sobotka Nylander




adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Mar 28 @ 2:04 PM ET
Botts wanted to prove that getting Tage was not a mistake so give him the chance in Buffalo. It failed. I would have loved him in Rochester on a line with Smith and Porter. If he did well down there he would have got the call up. He would have developed properly. Heck, when he was in St. Louis he played some games in San Antonio.

I'm starting to have serious doubts about Botterill as a GM. And the reason why Rochester is doing so well this year is because of Randy Sexton and Taylor. Not Botterill.

- mhp

Would they have done as well if Nylander, Pilut and Olofsson started in Buffalo? Maybe call up Smith as well. Not sure they'd be in the same spot. However, I agree that Thompson would have benefited more having spent the year in Rochester. We can hope that a disappointing season in Buffalo motivates him to work his butt off this summer and come back bigger and stronger and ready to actually earn a spot with the big club.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 28 @ 2:05 PM ET
We should have sent Tage directly to Roch after the ROR trade and plucked any warm body off of waivers or made a reasonable trade to fill his spot. He obviously didnt help this team and it doesnt look like he developed much.
- seedy


Jordan Nolan says whatup G
kritter65
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2009

Mar 28 @ 2:08 PM ET
We should have sent Tage directly to Roch after the ROR trade and plucked any warm body off of waivers or made a reasonable trade to fill his spot. He obviously didnt help this team and it doesnt look like he developed much.
- seedy


We shouldn't have traded ROR, or if we did, not receive St Louis' 3 worst players. Also, if you say you only received 1 legit offer, then don't trade him. I no longer trust Botts' judgement when it comes to trades. Eff that guy.
kritter65
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2009

Mar 28 @ 2:09 PM ET
Botts wanted to prove that getting Tage was not a mistake so give him the chance in Buffalo. It failed. I would have loved him in Rochester on a line with Smith and Porter. If he did well down there he would have got the call up. He would have developed properly. Heck, when he was in St. Louis he played some games in San Antonio.

I'm starting to have serious doubts about Botterill as a GM. And the reason why Rochester is doing so well this year is because of Randy Sexton and Taylor. Not Botterill.

- mhp


I'm already there. The guy sucks.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Mar 28 @ 2:10 PM ET
Would they have done as well if Nylander, Pilut and Olofsson started in Buffalo? Maybe call up Smith as well. Not sure they'd be in the same spot. However, I agree that Thompson would have benefited more having spent the year in Rochester. We can hope that a disappointing season in Buffalo motivates him to work his butt off this summer and come back bigger and stronger and ready to actually earn a spot with the big club.
- adambuffalo


In the case of Nylander, Pilut and Olofsson, only Pilut impressed in camp enough to get a spot but they chose otherwise. Olofsson is in his first year in NA and needed time down there and Nylander was getting over an injury to start the year, if I recall. But I get your point.

The team preaches proper development but Tage was here for some inexplicable reason.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Mar 28 @ 2:13 PM ET
We shouldn't have traded ROR, or if we did, not receive St Louis' 3 worst players. Also, if you say you only received 1 legit offer, then don't trade him. I no longer trust Botts' judgement when it comes to trades. Eff that guy.
- kritter65


I was hoping for Thomas or Kyrou and getting Tage instead was a big downer. This was a joke of a trade.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Mar 28 @ 2:14 PM ET
I'm already there. The guy sucks.
- kritter65


I want to see what he does this summer and if it's blah or makes another sh!t trade, then I'll join you.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Mar 28 @ 2:21 PM ET
We shouldn't have traded ROR, or if we did, not receive St Louis' 3 worst players. Also, if you say you only received 1 legit offer, then don't trade him. I no longer trust Botts' judgement when it comes to trades. Eff that guy.
- kritter65

Skinner for pieces
Sheary and Hunwick for a 4th
Montour

You're placing all your judgment on one trade without allowing the trade to play out in full? ROR didn't want to be here anymore. Deal with it.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Mar 28 @ 2:25 PM ET
In the case of Nylander, Pilut and Olofsson, only Pilut impressed in camp enough to get a spot but they chose otherwise. Olofsson is in his first year in NA and needed time down there and Nylander was getting over an injury to start the year, if I recall. But I get your point.

The team preaches proper development but Tage was here for some inexplicable reason.

- mhp



I wonder if Tage is sent down much earlier if Berglund doesn't bail. Or Mitts.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Mar 28 @ 2:27 PM ET
We shouldn't have traded ROR, or if we did, not receive St Louis' 3 worst players. Also, if you say you only received 1 legit offer, then don't trade him. I no longer trust Botts' judgement when it comes to trades. Eff that guy.
- kritter65



Based on one trade? Or the one trade that some can't seem to move on from?

You win some, you lose some.

He's won other trades.

adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Mar 28 @ 2:28 PM ET
I was hoping for Thomas or Kyrou and getting Tage instead was a big downer. This was a joke of a trade.
- mhp


Neither would have made this team any better this year. Still time will tell which will turn into the best NHLer. Of course Thomas and Kyrou have the advantage playing on a good team, but Tage shouldn't be written off yet. A lot of big bodied players take longer to develop.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 28 @ 2:28 PM ET
Botts assembled a team he thought could at the very least compete. As soon as the whole Berglund fiasco happened and he realized he didn’t have an adequate 2nd line option to insulate Mitts he probbaly started choking his chicken to the thought of Turcotte/Zegras/Boldy with a lotto shot at Hughes/Kakko.
- Pegullaville


Berglund was moved to the 4th line around game 10
Pretty sure Botts knew right then- BEFORE THE STREAK- that Berglund wasn’t gonna be a productive 2C for us
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Mar 28 @ 2:37 PM ET
Pominville our Masterton nominee has some stiff competition amongst ex Sabres:
Kulikov
Fedun
Ennis
Lehner
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