I broke my own rule, no politics in the thread.

I will now eviscerate myself since I have dishonored my family
- eichiefs9

Throw yourself down your stairs.

The location is a cluster(frank) for sure. The traffic there is already horrendous as it is and the LIRR, as presently structured, can in no way handle the crowds that would come in. The infrastructure at the station is old as (frank) and everything there, platforms included, are crumbling.

Let’s not even mention the fact, the way the tracks are formatted and how the signals would have to be used, the train has to bypass the station to the east, clear that signal, and then go back west. Shuttle trains might be their only option, especially at first.
- potvin05

I've never been to Belmont, but I did go to the US Open a few years ago, it it was a franking nightmare to get there and back.

But keep in mind, that's from the perspective of a tourist staying in mid-town Manhattan, and from what I understand, the Islanders won't be trying to cater their new arena location to my needs. Bastards.

I find the whole business side of locating arenas and stadiums fascinating.

When they first proposed to build Skydome in downtown Toronto, you had legions of planners and urbanists (including the great Jane Jacobs) saying that it was huge mistake - and then very soon afterwards, they all admitted they were wrong. While it's probably no longer a great idea to use up prime real estate (Skydome was interesting, as it was on derelict land close to the downtown core), it seems everyone still agrees that an arena or stadium needs to have immediate access to mass transit.

Throw yourself down your stairs.
- potvin05

Are they the stairs that Kevin Hayes crapped in? If so, no thanks.

I've never been to Belmont, but I did go to the US Open a few years ago, it it was a franking nightmare to get there and back.

But keep in mind, that's from the perspective of a tourist staying in mid-town Manhattan, and from what I understand, the Islanders won't be trying to cater their new arena location to my needs. Bastards.

I find the whole business side of locating arenas and stadiums fascinating.

When they first proposed to build Skydome in downtown Toronto, you had legions of planners and urbanists (including the great Jane Jacobs) saying that it was huge mistake - and then very soon afterwards, they all admitted they were wrong. While it's probably no longer a great idea to use up prime real estate (Skydome was interesting, as it was on derelict land close to the downtown core), it seems everyone still agrees that an arena or stadium needs to have immediate access to mass transit.
- Atomic Wedgie

In terms of geographic location, Shinnecock and Elmont couldn’t be further apart so that was more of a distance problem for you (or anybody west of Suffolk for that matter).

It gonna be a cluster(frank) for the reasons I listed and the only thing that can even try to fix that is money the MTA doesn’t have. In fact, they’re half a BILLION $$ in debt and have board members that probably don’t give a (frank) but since this is Cuomo’s baby, it will get done, and all your monthly tickets will just go up even higher. Nice, right?

The only major highway that hits that area is the Cross Island Parkway. All 3 major east-west highways cross it but that traffic is already horrendous there.

In terms or geographic location, Shinnecock and Elmont couldn’t be further apart so that was more of a distance problem for you (or anybody west of Suffolk for that matter).

It gonna be a cluster(frank) for the reasons I listed and the only thing that can even try to fix that is money the MTA doesn’t have. In fact, they’re half a BILLION $$ in debt and have board members that probably don’t give a (frank) but since this is Cuomo’s baby, it will get done, and all your monthly tickets will just go up even higher. Nice, right?

The only major highway that hits that area is the Cross Island Parkway. All 3 major east-west highways cross it but that traffic is already horrendous there.
- potvin05

I should have been more clear: US Tennis Open.

I should have been more clear: US Tennis Open.
- Atomic Wedgie

Shut up you were in the Hamptons and everyone knows it, you rich playboy investment banker

In terms or geographic location, Shinnecock and Elmont couldn’t be further apart so that was more of a distance problem for you (or anybody west of Suffolk for that matter).

It gonna be a cluster(frank) for the reasons I listed and the only thing that can even try to fix that is money the MTA doesn’t have. In fact, they’re half a BILLION $$ in debt and have board members that probably don’t give a (frank) but since this is Cuomo’s baby, it will get done, and all your monthly tickets will just go up even higher. Nice, right?

The only major highway that hits that area is the Cross Island Parkway. All 3 major east-west highways cross it but that traffic is already horrendous there.
- potvin05

The LIRR isn't a viable option if you want to get home at a reasonable time. You will probably be looking at an 1 1/2 hour train ride. Pretty much every branch runs local trains that time of night so you will stop at every single stop. If you are out as far as Chiefs you will need to drive to Babylon or Ronkonkoma because those branches out east don't have service in the late evening.

Shut up you were in the Hamptons and everyone knows it, you rich playboy investment banker
- eichiefs9

Jeeves, this gentlemen is disturbing me. Please have him removed.

It's a shame what this place has become. Hockeybuzz lets in just about anyone these days.

I should have been more clear: US Tennis Open.
- Atomic Wedgie

Oh damn. That’s actually fairly easy to get to in terms of mass transit. You can take the LIRR or the subway there.

Getting to Elmont is gonna be like trying to get to Met Life stadium in Jersey in comparison.

Jeeves, this gentlemen is disturbing me. Please have him removed.

It's a shame what this place has become. Hockeybuzz lets in just about anyone these days.
- Atomic Wedgie

Look at you

The LIRR isn't a viable option if you want to get home at a reasonable time. You will probably be looking at an 1 1/2 hour train ride. Pretty much every branch runs local trains that time of night so you will stop at every single stop. If you are out as far as Chiefs you will need to drive to Babylon or Ronkonkoma because those branches out east don't have service in the late evening.
- JimmyP

Then brace yourself, JimmyP, because I have some devastating news for you:

They are no longer planning to build a 17,500 seat arena in Ronkonkoma.

https://www.newsday.com/l...a-arena-hockey-1.28123930

I'm shocked by this, quite frankly. I really felt this was a great idea.

Then brace yourself, JimmyP, because I have some devastating news for you:

They are no longer planning to build a 17,500 seat arena in Ronkonkoma.

https://www.newsday.com/l...a-arena-hockey-1.28123930

I'm shocked by this, quite frankly. I really felt this was a great idea.
- Atomic Wedgie

I wish they did and the Isles would move there. That'd be great for me.

The LIRR isn't a viable option if you want to get home at a reasonable time. You will probably be looking at an 1 1/2 hour train ride. Pretty much every branch runs local trains that time of night so you will stop at every single stop. If you are out as far as Chiefs you will need to drive to Babylon or Ronkonkoma because those branches out east don't have service in the late evening.
- JimmyP

The worst part is the one-way-in, one-way-out aspect of things. It might take you an hour to leave the god damn station, forget your commute. The only branch that hits Belmont directly, I believe, is the Hempstead branch which is one of the lighter travelled branches. Everybody would still have to go back to Jamaica and transfer back east which could make this worse than Barclays. lol. Much worse, actually.

The worst part is the one-way-in, one-way-out aspect of things. It might take you an hour to leave the god damn station, forget your commute. The only branch that hits Belmont directly, I believe, is the Hempstead branch which is one of the lighter travelled branches. Everybody would still have to go back to Jamaica and transfer back east which could make this worse than Barclays. lol. Much worse, actually.
- potvin05

That's the only way. It will be a nightmare unless you are coming in from the west which is a small percentage of Islander fans.

Isles are ripe for the picking. Playing a good, but struggling, opponent coming off another loss to a basement-dweller rival and the Isles were just on cloud-nine after the last game. This has major letdown written all over it for us.
- eichiefs9

I think with the leafs it's not a let down game it's a rivalry game

That's the only way. It will be a nightmare unless you are coming in from the west which is a small percentage of Islander fans.
- JimmyP

It still blows my mind that when the “new” Coliseum was “refurbished” no one, NO ONE, even thought, “hey, maybe we should make this arena viable for a professional hockey or basketball team.” Its not like they’ve ever had problems filling it for concerts for years.

That’s the perfect location. Driving there isn’t terrible and the LIRR is a pretty short cab or uber ride from the Babylon, Hempstead and Huntington/Ronkonkoma lines.
Just like the Barclays should have been formatted for hockey and basketball in the first place but that’s an argument way past due.

I think with the leafs it's not a let down game it's a rivalry game
- Upstate_isles

It just feels like we're due and the game after clinching is probably historically a big trap game. Leafs have one of the best offenses in the league and we've held them to one goal across two games.

Just shut up and let me reverse-jinx the Islanders here

It still blows my mind that when the “new” Coliseum was “refurbished” no one, NO ONE, even thought, “hey, maybe we should make this arena viable for a professional hockey or basketball team.” Its not like they’ve ever had problems filling it for concerts for years.

That’s the perfect location. Driving there isn’t terrible and the LIRR is a pretty short cab or uber ride from the Babylon, Hempstead and Huntington/Ronkonkoma lines.
Just like the Barclays should have been formatted for hockey and basketball in the first place but that’s an argument way past due.
- potvin05

I mean, it is viable for hockey and basketball games. Small capacity ones, but viable. They weren't going to add 5,000 extra seats on the off-chance the Islanders made a triumphant return.

I think with the leafs it's not a let down game it's a rivalry game
- Upstate_isles

The old barn will be rocking!

I mean, it is viable for hockey and basketball games. Small capacity ones, but viable. They weren't going to add 5,000 extra seats on the off-chance the Islanders made a triumphant return.
- eichiefs9

Was it gonna take 5,000 extra seats? Because if it would have been 1,000 or 2,000 seats I really don’t get why that would be a hurdle. I’m pretty sure Ratner owns both buildings so he had to know the semantics of the Barclays contract and that “out” clause better than anyone I would think.

https://twitter.com/ExIsl...tatus/1112804979386060800







1993

They played the TORONTO MAPLE LEAFS THERE IN 2002

Was it gonna take 5,000 extra seats? Because if it would have been 1,000 or 2,000 seats I really don’t get why that would be a hurdle. I’m pretty sure Ratner owns both buildings so he had to know the semantics of the Barclays contract and that “out” clause better than anyone I would think.
- potvin05

Are you referring to the “25 year iron clad lease”? 😂

https://twitter.com/ExIsledUsher/status/1112804979386060800







1993

They played the TORONTO MAPLE LEAFS THERE IN 2002
- eichiefs9

Leafs fans don't talk about that series, out of respect for Peca's knee.










It was a legal hit, fellas.

It was a legal hit.

Back then.

I hope Garth Snow gets hit by two trains

Figured the idea of looking at how individual players perform vs the opponent and which players have overperformed/underperformed recently was a bit unique- you can find lineups/stories going into the game through basically any mainstream media. Thought it would be cool to do stuff like this for each game.

Has it already gotten stale?
- Ben Shelley

I'm not big on hockey stats. I don't mind them. They tell part of the story, so they serve a purpose ...... somewhat.... but maybe vary it a little? I dunno. You're still an improvement over some of the past bloggers.