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mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Apr 3 @ 3:17 PM ET
"If you can't spot the sucker at the table it's you."
- JimmyP


Chiefs could suck a whole table off in no time
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 3 @ 3:30 PM ET
Chiefs could suck a whole table off in no time
- mdw7413

You’re no slouch yourself don’t sell yourself short.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Apr 3 @ 3:55 PM ET
If you want a chuckle, Ryan Lambert is at it again.....
https://sports.yahoo.com/...ed-164826420.html?src=rss
Ben Shelley
Joined: 03.12.2019

Apr 3 @ 4:08 PM ET
Really enjoyed this blog Ben. 👍

Personally I’m hoping for Columbus. Bob oft poops the bed come playoffs, and it would a great way to showcase the Islanders organization to Panarin, Duchene and Dzingel.

- Wildschwein


Thanks for reading!
Ben Shelley
Joined: 03.12.2019

Apr 3 @ 4:09 PM ET
Great article.
- coohill


Thank you!
Ben Shelley
Joined: 03.12.2019

Apr 3 @ 4:19 PM ET
A lot of mathematical calculations go into some of these shots on goal. But seriously, I have more of a problem with one of the underlying assumptions of these posts......i.e., that PPG is the best indicator of a player's success on the ice. PPG only considers offense, not defense, and defense is just as important as offense in the outcome of a game. (Consider this season's Islanders vs. last season's Islanders.) I'm not sure what the answer is. Advanced stats? Seems like a huge effort. +/-? Flawed stat, but better than nothing, and certainly better than a stat that only measures offense.
- JohnScammo


Agreed for sure that PPG isn't an accurate measure of on ice success on it's own. I usually include a line that says:

"*Note: I realize PPG isn’t an accurate measure for defenders, but without getting into point shares/deeper defensive stats, analysis for defense will be based on their offensive history.*"

Like you said, it's tricky to find another answer. I won't say I've really looked into including any advanced stats (and maybe I should) but it does seem like quite an effort, especially for publishing frequent content. For plus/minus I actually didn't hate the stat but I find it does often lack accuracy. My thought process was that at least with PPG, it's an accurate measure for forwards and it measures the offensive side of defencemen. But I'll be looking into new ways of trying to find a more accurate meausurement.

As for the message before, looking at these posts they have been extremely stats-heavy. For future posts, I'll start trying to find a better mix of writing and stats.

Thanks for reading the posts and I appreciate the feedback!
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Apr 3 @ 4:36 PM ET
Agreed for sure that PPG isn't an accurate measure of on ice success on it's own. I usually include a line that says:

"*Note: I realize PPG isn’t an accurate measure for defenders, but without getting into point shares/deeper defensive stats, analysis for defense will be based on their offensive history.*"

Like you said, it's tricky to find another answer. I won't say I've really looked into including any advanced stats (and maybe I should) but it does seem like quite an effort, especially for publishing frequent content. For plus/minus I actually didn't hate the stat but I find it does often lack accuracy. My thought process was that at least with PPG, it's an accurate measure for forwards and it measures the offensive side of defencemen. But I'll be looking into new ways of trying to find a more accurate meausurement.

As for the message before, looking at these posts they have been extremely stats-heavy. For future posts, I'll start trying to find a better mix of writing and stats.

Thanks for reading the posts and I appreciate the feedback!

- Ben Shelley

You're welcome, and I appreciate your efforts. And yes, I have read your disclaimer regarding defensemen.

Just to play devil's advocate for a minute, let me just say that PPG is not really an accurate measure for forwards either. Forwards also have defensive responsibilities, and keeping an opponent from scoring is just as important to winning a game as scoring itself. That is why I think +/- is better overall than PPG, despite the flaws that we both recognize.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Apr 3 @ 7:15 PM ET
My ghast is flabbered. I actually met another Islanders fan in Northern Alberta.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 3 @ 7:44 PM ET
My ghast is flabbered. I actually met another Islanders fan in Northern Alberta.
- Wildschwein

One , two, or three eyes and did he have any teeth left in his mouth?
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Apr 3 @ 7:54 PM ET
One , two, or three eyes and did they have any teeth left in their mouth?
- Cptmjl


I said Islanders fan, not Rangers fan.

Nice guy in truth. He saw my Islanders hat from across the grocery store and came right upbto me to shake hands. Very passionate fellow.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Apr 3 @ 8:07 PM ET
I said Islanders fan, not Rangers fan.

Nice guy in truth. He saw my Islanders hat from across the grocery store and came right upbto me to shake hands. Very passionate fellow.

- Wildschwein

He probably took a wrong turn at Athabasca.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Apr 3 @ 8:14 PM ET
He probably took a wrong turn at Athabasca.
- JohnScammo


Maybe.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Apr 3 @ 8:32 PM ET
My ghast is flabbered. I actually met another Islanders fan in Northern Alberta.
- Wildschwein


Don't make too much of it. I just wanted to see if your wife really did look like MDW's girlfriend. Plus I always wondered if I could pass off as Canadian by saying "aboot" and "eh".
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Apr 3 @ 8:45 PM ET
Don't make too much of it. I just wanted to see if your wife really did look like MDW's girlfriend. Plus I always wondered if I could pass off as Canadian by saying "aboot" and "eh".
- JimmyP


Well? 🤞

And yes, you made a fine socialist.
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Apr 3 @ 8:51 PM ET
you can run all the math in the world but this jackets team is not the same it beat earlier in the year
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Apr 3 @ 9:06 PM ET
Well? 🤞

And yes, you made a fine socialist.

- Wildschwein


It turns out MDW's girlfriend looks very similar to you. Go figure.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Apr 3 @ 9:07 PM ET
you can run all the math in the world but this jackets team is not the same it beat earlier in the year
- Dan Petriw


I was really hoping they would miss. Still, they have a long haul ahead of them coming in as a wild card.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Apr 3 @ 9:20 PM ET
I was really hoping they would miss. Still, they have a long haul ahead of them coming in as a wild card.
- JimmyP

There's still a slight chance Columbus will miss the playoffs, but, even though they are tied in points currently with Montreal, they own the first tiebreaker over the Habs (ROWs) and the Habs next play the Caps whereas Columbus plays the Rangers. The most likely match up is Columbus and Tampa which could prove to be a pretty good series.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Apr 3 @ 9:27 PM ET
There's still a slight chance Columbus will miss the playoffs, but, even though they are tied in points currently with Montreal, they own the first tiebreaker over the Habs (ROWs) and the Habs next play the Caps whereas Columbus plays the Rangers. The most likely match up is Columbus and Tampa which could prove to be a pretty good series.
- JohnScammo


Agreed. I'd rather see Lightning v Jackets, but it's unlikely. I think the Lightning will spank the Canes 4-0 or 4-1. That means they will be well rested for the next series which will most likely be the Bruins. That may be their hardest match up to the finals.
cdn_Isles_fan
New York Islanders
Location: ottawa, ON
Joined: 11.20.2015

Apr 3 @ 10:09 PM ET
Agreed. I'd rather see Lightning v Jackets, but it's unlikely. I think the Lightning will spank the Canes 4-0 or 4-1. That means they will be well rested for the next series which will most likely be the Bruins. That may be their hardest match up to the finals.
- JimmyP


Ummm, I don't think you thought this through. When we play them in the conference finals, and beat them, THAT will be their hardest series
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Apr 3 @ 11:44 PM ET
It turns out MDW's girlfriend looks very similar to you. Go figure.
- JimmyP


If only he were so lucky.
cranktheradio
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Greensburg, PA
Joined: 07.02.2011

Apr 4 @ 1:20 AM ET
As s Pens fan Carolina is the team that scares me for some reason. Washington, Tampa, Boston are all really good. But, Carolina just has an "it" factor this year.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Apr 4 @ 6:44 AM ET
The Senators... or maybe Torontoe... for different reasons...
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Apr 4 @ 9:14 AM ET
There's still a slight chance Columbus will miss the playoffs, but, even though they are tied in points currently with Montreal, they own the first tiebreaker over the Habs (ROWs) and the Habs next play the Caps whereas Columbus plays the Rangers. The most likely match up is Columbus and Tampa which could prove to be a pretty good series.
- JohnScammo


Pretty much every series in the playoffs is going to be a good series. Just spitballin' here, but I don't think any team mails it in during the playoffs. Just sayin'.
The Isles are going to play whoever they play. There's no bad teams in the playoffs. It's not like they can request to play the Sens, Devils & Rags. They're in. Let's see how far they can ride this out and enjoy it.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 4 @ 9:22 AM ET
Pretty much every series in the playoffs is going to be a good series. Just spitballin' here, but I don't think any team mails it in during the playoffs. Just sayin'.
The Isles are going to play whoever they play. There's no bad teams in the playoffs. It's not like they can request to play the Sens, Devils & Rags. They're in. Let's see how far they can ride this out and enjoy it.

- Isleshockeyman


Isles will struggle against any team as long as the offense and PP continue to struggle. Just no easy teams to play.
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