30 points on a bad team with bad coaching at 36 years old???

Definitely one of the few guys that hit expectations

I think we move on from 6 forwards on the current roster


Wilson
Girgs
Larsson
Sobatka
Pommer
Okposo
Nylander
Skinner
Even sam ?
- Boss34

Move on from a 65 point, 3.7M player? Sounds neato

Botterill and Housely are both getting extensions. Pegula to announce after the draft lottery.

The Peguals are angry with the players that they have paid generously and taken care of with the changes to the facilities. They believe this group has already quit on 2 coaches.

They are concerned that the players might intentionally tank the first quarter of the schedule next year to get Housely fired.

By extending him, the players will have to suck it up and start playing Housely's system properly.

JP-4

What’s your point?

NO ONE is saying he’s worth the $$$

Did u miss where i said,
“No one disagrees with that” ?


All I’m saying is that it’s just not accurate to rip Okposo for his play & then say that Pommer has been decent

If anything...
i think u actually gotta give Okposo the edge

He should’ve played PP1 and with Jack
ALL YEAR LONG (like i said before the season)
Then maybe he’d have hit numbers where he’d be tradable & we wouldn’t be stuck with him
- jdfitz77

If Okposo was on the 1st line all year the Sabres would be in the playoffs

Botterill and Housely are both getting extensions. Pegula to announce after the draft lottery.

The Peguals are angry with the players that they have paid generously and taken care of with the changes to the facilities. They believe this group has already quit on 2 coaches.

They are concerned that the players might intentionally tank the first quarter of the schedule next year to get Housely fired.

By extending him, the players will have to suck it up and start playing Housely's system properly.

JP-4
- Losman

If they’re concerned the players will take to get Housley canned the extension won’t address that

Botterill and Housely are both getting extensions. Pegula to announce after the draft lottery.

The Peguals are angry with the players that they have paid generously and taken care of with the changes to the facilities. They believe this group has already quit on 2 coaches.

They are concerned that the players might intentionally tank the first quarter of the schedule next year to get Housely fired.

By extending him, the players will have to suck it up and start playing Housely's system properly.

JP-4
- Losman

Corporate bully move. If the Pegulas really cared about Buffalo they would pull a Green Bay and let the fans run the teams.
I would put all the garbage cans in the right places at the arena, it would be so efficient.

If they’re concerned the players will take to get Housley canned the extension won’t address that
- Der Kaiser

Or just extend the tank era. The Black Widow is having fun! A happy wife....

Botterill and Housely are both getting extensions. Pegula to announce after the draft lottery.

The Peguals are angry with the players that they have paid generously and taken care of with the changes to the facilities. They believe this group has already quit on 2 coaches.

They are concerned that the players might intentionally tank the first quarter of the schedule next year to get Housely fired.

By extending him, the players will have to suck it up and start playing Housely's system properly.

JP-4
- Losman

They're both under contract for next year already

What’s your point?

NO ONE is saying he’s worth the $$$

Did u miss where i said,
“No one disagrees with that” ?


All I’m saying is that it’s just not accurate to rip Okposo for his play & then say that Pommer has been decent

If anything...
i think u actually gotta give Okposo the edge

He should’ve played PP1 and with Jack
ALL YEAR LONG (like i said before the season)
Then maybe he’d have hit numbers where he’d be tradable & we wouldn’t be stuck with him
- jdfitz77

They tried Okposo on the top line and went away from it a couple of times. Pominville was able to produce with Jack and allow Reinhart to help boost the production of our proverbial “second line”. Okposo couldn’t gel with jack or Housley didn’t allow it to gel, whatever the case may be. Pominville had the IQ to stick it out. I would hope that a 30 year old Okposo could produce more then a 36 year old Pominville over the course of a season. At the end of the day you’re comparing horse poop and dog poop and no matter how you go about it, it’s still poop.

They tried Okposo on the top line and went away from it a couple of times. Pominville was able to produce with Jack and allow Reinhart to help boost the production of our proverbial “second line”. Okposo couldn’t gel with jack or Housley didn’t allow it to gel, whatever the case may be. Pominville had the IQ to stick it out. I would hope that a 30 year old Okposo could produce more then a 36 year old Pominville over the course of a season. At the end of the day you’re comparing horse poop and dog poop and no matter how you go about it, it’s still poop.
- Pegullaville

They tried Okposo on the top line and went away from it a couple of times. Pominville was able to produce with Jack and allow Reinhart to help boost the production of our proverbial “second line”. Okposo couldn’t gel with jack or Housley didn’t allow it to gel, whatever the case may be. Pominville had the IQ to stick it out. I would hope that a 30 year old Okposo could produce more then a 36 year old Pominville over the course of a season. At the end of the day you’re comparing horse poop and dog poop and no matter how you go about it, it’s still poop.
- Pegullaville

As you stated previously, Okposo is now a 4th liner, unfortunately he is paid like a top 6 at $6m.
You are right they are stuck with him, probably for 2 more seasons before a buyout. At 14/14/28, that production is very solid for a 4RW. Play him there, get ERod as the 4th C and someone else on 4LW who can skate and put another 10-12 G's and that will work...Smith or even Sheary maybe.
Not the ideal way to build a 4th, but it would be an effective use of assets rather than playing players up due to contract or vet status.

I noticed very early in the first period. Jack Eichel and Sam Reinhart we’re playing defense in front of the net while Risto and Dahlin were up high.

I was so confused.

As you stated previously, Okposo is now a 4th liner, unfortunately he is paid like a top 6 at $6m.
You are right they are stuck with him, probably for 2 more seasons before a buyout. At 14/14/28, that production is very solid for a 4RW. Play him there, get ERod as the 4th C and someone else on 4LW who can skate and put another 10-12 G's and that will work...Smith or even Sheary maybe.
Not the ideal way to build a 4th, but it would be an effective use of assets rather than playing players up due to contract or vet status.
- IonSabres

I 100% agree with this logic. If Botts isn’t able to unload Sobotka however I can see him as the LW on that 4th line.

Saw the highlights. The Jack to Sam goal was a (frank)ing piece of magic by Jack.

a couple thngs from last night.

1) I would not mind if the Sabres re-signed Pommer for a 1 year deal at low money. Class act and good for the locker room.

2) Jack Eichel played if not his best game one of his best games. I know it was against Ott but he dominated

3) Olofsson has a very quick one timer, that shot last night was

Need to sign Skinner and a true #2 Center (50-60 pt) bring up Nylander and Olofsson full time and maybe get another solid D-man...

This is super interesting. Draw your own parallels.

https://bleacherreport.co...hat-happened-in-green-bay

So barring a miracle (Blues loss, two C-bus wins) it looks like the Ducks will get our Blues pick instead of the Sharks pick? Blues are in the 20th spot right now, three points ahead of C-Bus. Or am I misunderstanding the draft order or 'conditions' of the trade (hope I am)

This is super interesting. Draw your own parallels.

https://bleacherreport.co...hat-happened-in-green-bay
- TheSabresTaco

It’s all over PFT. This is huge for Tyler Dunne. Good for him.

So barring a miracle (Blues loss, two C-bus wins) it looks like the Ducks will get our Blues pick instead of the Sharks pick? Blues are in the 20th spot right now, three points ahead of C-Bus. Or am I misunderstanding the draft order or 'conditions' of the trade (hope I am)
- Chris16

The reason Botts put the stipulation of 20th or higher is because the general consensus believes that players ranked between 20-35 or so are basically the same, developmentally. Choose your style of player, choose your position, but they're all 2-3 years out, all have flaws and all have around the same overall talent/skill level.

I'm pretty confident the Sharks will disappoint as usual. Those picks will be similar, I'd bet.

The reason Botts put the stipulation of 20th or higher is because the general consensus believes that players ranked between 20-35 or so are basically the same, developmentally. Choose your style of player, choose your position, but they're all 2-3 years out, all have flaws and all have around the same overall talent/skill level.

I'm pretty confident the Sharks will disappoint as usual. Those picks will be similar, I'd bet.
- TheSabresTaco

That sucks. I thought they were 21st right now.

What’s your point?

NO ONE is saying he’s worth the $$$

Did u miss where i said,
“No one disagrees with that” ?


All I’m saying is that it’s just not accurate to rip Okposo for his play & then say that Pommer has been decent

If anything...
i think u actually gotta give Okposo the edge

He should’ve played PP1 and with Jack
ALL YEAR LONG (like i said before the season)
Then maybe he’d have hit numbers where he’d be tradable & we wouldn’t be stuck with him
- jdfitz77

He wasn’t better than Pominville at all.

Pominville has positive underlying numbers in almost every aspect.

Okposo’s were all bad.

Pommer was the better player this year

Saw the highlights. The Jack to Sam goal was a (frank)ing piece of magic by Jack.
- feetontheair22

That whole offensive shift was Jack in a nutshell. He’s an elite possession player with elite vision. I’m sure everyone wishes he’d score a few more goals but if we ride Reinhart with him for a full 82 that very well might happen.

So barring a miracle (Blues loss, two C-bus wins) it looks like the Ducks will get our Blues pick instead of the Sharks pick? Blues are in the 20th spot right now, three points ahead of C-Bus. Or am I misunderstanding the draft order or 'conditions' of the trade (hope I am)
- Chris16

Isn't the final draft order dependent upon playoff results for all playoff teams, or is only some subset of them?

Isn't the final draft order dependent upon playoff results for all playoff teams, or is only some subset of them?
- IonSabres

non-playoffs are record based, playoffs are based on wins and losses in each round, combined with standing in reg season.

I noticed very early in the first period. Jack Eichel and Sam Reinhart we’re playing defense in front of the net while Risto and Dahlin were up high.

I was so confused.
- ImThatGuy

Housley plays a man to man system in the D zone which is absolutely ridiculous when you have the talent or lack there of that we have. It is the same system Nashville plays but they have 4 D that could plug into our top 2 seamlessly.

The reason Botts put the stipulation of 20th or higher is because the general consensus believes that players ranked between 20-35 or so are basically the same, developmentally. Choose your style of player, choose your position, but they're all 2-3 years out, all have flaws and all have around the same overall talent/skill level.

I'm pretty confident the Sharks will disappoint as usual. Those picks will be similar, I'd bet.
- TheSabresTaco

Yeah, I hear you. But it's a pretty deep draft and if someone Botts ranked higher and falls and then we miss him by a pick or two, that will stink. Maybe just par for the course around here.