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100goalseason
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Shanghai
Joined: 01.22.2010

Apr 5 @ 9:00 AM ET
The reason Botts put the stipulation of 20th or higher is because the general consensus believes that players ranked between 20-35 or so are basically the same, developmentally. Choose your style of player, choose your position, but they're all 2-3 years out, all have flaws and all have around the same overall talent/skill level.

I'm pretty confident the Sharks will disappoint as usual. Those picks will be similar, I'd bet.

- TheSabresTaco


It wouldn't be all that surprising if the Sharks lost in the first round and the Blues advanced although I'm not sure how that would affect which pick goes to the Ducks.
Chris16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CT
Joined: 06.22.2012

Apr 5 @ 9:05 AM ET
non-playoffs are record based, playoffs are based on wins and losses in each round, combined with standing in reg season.
- TheSabresTaco


Wait, draft position is not based on regular season for everyone? It's been so long since we were a playoff team I forgot how this stuff works. So if the Blues get bounced in the first round we could end up with a pick in the high teens? Something to root for in the playoffs.
Chris16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CT
Joined: 06.22.2012

Apr 5 @ 9:07 AM ET
It wouldn't be all that surprising if the Sharks lost in the first round and the Blues advanced although I'm not sure how that would affect which pick goes to the Ducks.
- 100goalseason


I don't think that helps us. If the Blues pick is #20 or higher the Ducks have the option to take it. If the Sharks pick is lower, they keep it.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 5 @ 9:14 AM ET
Yeah, I hear you. But it's a pretty deep draft and if someone Botts ranked higher and falls and then we miss him by a pick or two, that will stink. Maybe just par for the course around here.
- Chris16


If it's that small of a gap, 2-3 picks, and Botts REALLY feels that player is going to be leagues better than the next few guys, I have no doubt he'll make a trade and throw a third and their 1st in to move up a few spots.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 5 @ 9:15 AM ET
It wouldn't be all that surprising if the Sharks lost in the first round and the Blues advanced although I'm not sure how that would affect which pick goes to the Ducks.
- 100goalseason


Ducks get the better of the 2. Technically they have the choice.. but.. you know.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 5 @ 9:16 AM ET
Wait, draft position is not based on regular season for everyone? It's been so long since we were a playoff team I forgot how this stuff works. So if the Blues get bounced in the first round we could end up with a pick in the high teens? Something to root for in the playoffs.
- Chris16


No. Same as in football. Patriots rarely have the best record in the league. But they're usually drafting last.

Really your best bet is rooting for the teams playing the Sharks and Blues, but especially against the Blues. If they lose round 1, they could be pick 16-18.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Apr 5 @ 9:33 AM ET
No. Same as in football. Patriots rarely have the best record in the league. But they're usually drafting last.

Really your best bet is rooting for the teams playing the Sharks and Blues, but especially against the Blues. If they lose round 1, they could be pick 16-18.

- TheSabresTaco


The NHL is a little different if I remember. Something along the lines of teams that lose if you lose in the first round, it doesn't exactly seed that way. If a 1 seed loses, they aren't slotted into the worst of the first round exiters position. I think, and I very well could be wrong, that the first two rounds (Not Conference finals) are weighted by season rankings. So if a 1 seed loses, they are picking around 27, pending if the other 1 seed loses as well.

Edit: This years example: TBL lose in the first round to the CBJ. There would be 8 teams left. 31 - 8 = 23. Line of thinking would be they would get the 23rd pick. But if I'm correct, they would actually get the 27th pick as the best team in the reg season this year that didn't make a CF.
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Apr 5 @ 9:33 AM ET
So sign Skinner, trade Risto for a center and get the 2nd pick

Olofsson-Eichel-Reinhart
Skinner-new guy- Kakko
Sheary- Mitts- Thompson/ Nylander/ UFA
ERod- Larsson- Okposo
Wilson
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 5 @ 9:37 AM ET
So If Jack never got injured he would’ve been over 90 points but still his comparison is a a Roy
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Apr 5 @ 9:50 AM ET
So If Jack never got injured he would’ve been over 90 points but still his comparison is a a Roy
- gerbe75pts


Only Compared to Roy by one person......

Eichel played one of his best games last night. He was a man on a mission...
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 5 @ 9:59 AM ET
Only Compared to Roy by one person......

Eichel played one of his best games last night. He was a man on a mission...

- hehateme


When we get Jack Hughes it’s going to be a two headed monster can’t put your Best shut down line against both
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Apr 5 @ 10:01 AM ET
Isn't the final draft order dependent upon playoff results for all playoff teams, or is only some subset of them?
- IonSabres



Taco - thanks, you are right, I just wanted a bit more definition.

Draft Order: The 14 teams who did not make the playoffs are eligible for the draft lottery, with the teams with lower total regular sesason points receiving more number combinations, and the winner gets the first overall pick. The rest of the picks are determined by reverse order of elimination from the playoffs, with the Stanley Cup winner receiving the last pick. For teams that were eliminated in the same round, the teams with the lower regular season point total gets the higher pick. All of the subsequent rounds are ordered in the same manner


Ideally for Sabres the, Sharks and Blues 1st round exits!
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Apr 5 @ 10:11 AM ET
Only Compared to Roy by one person......

Eichel played one of his best games last night. He was a man on a mission...

- hehateme


He played well the last 2 games.
He has decided to finish out strong.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 5 @ 10:17 AM ET
so........................................


why did olofsson not get a good look in December when this team needed a spark?
Whatnot78
Buffalo Sabres
Location: last place heros, VA
Joined: 02.21.2007

Apr 5 @ 10:20 AM ET
so........................................


why did olofsson not get a good look in December when this team needed a spark?

- homiedclown


Not enough gum in Sweden
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Apr 5 @ 10:20 AM ET
so........................................


why did olofsson not get a good look in December when this team needed a spark?

- homiedclown


Sir tank-o-lot wouldn’t have it
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Apr 5 @ 10:22 AM ET
so........................................


why did olofsson not get a good look in December when this team needed a spark?

- homiedclown



Because that would of been a good coaching decision?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 5 @ 10:22 AM ET
Sir tank-o-lot wouldn’t have it
- gordong

he wasn't tanking

tried to get duchene at deadline
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 5 @ 10:22 AM ET
so........................................


why did olofsson not get a good look in December when this team needed a spark?

- homiedclown


Saving him for next year so we can overpay when he hits 30-30 lol

Hopefully they sign him to a contract this summer 4 years at 3.5
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Apr 5 @ 10:26 AM ET
he wasn't tanking

tried to get duchene at deadline

- homiedclown


lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Apr 5 @ 10:31 AM ET
So sign Skinner, trade Risto for a center and get the 2nd pick

Olofsson-Eichel-Reinhart
Skinner-new guy- Kakko
Sheary- Mitts- Thompson/ Nylander/ UFA
ERod- Larsson- Okposo
Wilson

- mattmoulson


I still think we should keep Skinner with Jack.
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Apr 5 @ 10:33 AM ET
so........................................


why did olofsson not get a good look in December when this team needed a spark?

- homiedclown


And to compliment, Tage would benefit from a full season with the Amerks
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Apr 5 @ 10:33 AM ET
he wasn't tanking

tried to get duchene at deadline

- homiedclown

You are correct sir
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 5 @ 10:35 AM ET
so........................................


why did olofsson not get a good look in December when this team needed a spark?

- homiedclown

I’ve had this same thought, but everyone I hear and read that covers Rochester said he really wasn’t playing great up until mid season.

I’m just happy he’s here now and looks good
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Apr 5 @ 10:36 AM ET
But Derek Roy had 81 back in an era where scoring was much more prevalent.
- Pegullaville

Dude what are you even talking about
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