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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 5 @ 10:40 AM ET
Thinking about it more we should sign Olofsson now

Yea it might sound crazy but it could be a David Pastrnak , Nikita Kucherov , Arvidsson type deal Where we’re rewarded

You can see him and jack are just going to click 4 points in 5 games
His skating and his Ovechkin like release is hard to ignore

If you can sign him for 3m for 4 -5 years or 3.5 that contract is going to be Great value for us

It would be better to sign him now then have him get 30G or have a crazy year with Jack and get 5m

And he be 29 or 28 if we get a 4 or 5 year contract now

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 5 @ 10:45 AM ET
21 of those points were with Eichel. When you take away the points he chipped in on the 4th line, his middle 6 production was close to nothing. I expected a solid 3rd line contribution form him. He didn't provide that.

I wish him well. Time to move on.

- Lunaion



Ok, so how many points did sam or skinner have without jack?

Those dont count either?


Kinda nitpicky. The reason pommer was on the line with jack:

Other players weren't able to produce there.

You cant take any of pommers 30 points away
Or the fact that he is 4th in goal scoring on the team
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 5 @ 10:47 AM ET
So sign Skinner, trade Risto for a center and get the 2nd pick

Olofsson-Eichel-Reinhart
Skinner-new guy- Kakko
Sheary- Mitts- Thompson/ Nylander/ UFA
ERod- Larsson- Okposo
Wilson

- mattmoulson


Well you saved me from posting my mock lineup so kudos to you hahaha
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 5 @ 10:49 AM ET
Move on from a 65 point, 3.7M player? Sounds neato
- TheSabresTaco



Points are the only indicator of being a good nhl hockey player.

Great point.

Leadership
Speed
Pp time
Grit and determination

Just points
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 5 @ 10:49 AM ET
so........................................


why did olofsson not get a good look in December when this team needed a spark?

- homiedclown


Botts has long term vision in mind. Player development for Olofsson was more important for him long term. Why he didn’t send Thompson down a couple of months ago is odd but at least he got it right with Olofsson.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 5 @ 10:51 AM ET
Dude what are you even talking about
- BeadyEyedDouche


You are the one comparing Jack Eichel to Derek Roy and saying Pilut is no better then Nelson.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 5 @ 10:52 AM ET
You are the one comparing Jack Eichel to Derek Roy and saying Pilut is no better then Nelson.
- Pegullaville


some hot takes
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 5 @ 10:53 AM ET
he wasn't tanking

tried to get duchene at deadline

- homiedclown


Looks like I can depend on the info I get from my twitter source then.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 5 @ 10:53 AM ET
The NHL is a little different if I remember. Something along the lines of teams that lose if you lose in the first round, it doesn't exactly seed that way. If a 1 seed loses, they aren't slotted into the worst of the first round exiters position. I think, and I very well could be wrong, that the first two rounds (Not Conference finals) are weighted by season rankings. So if a 1 seed loses, they are picking around 27, pending if the other 1 seed loses as well.

Edit: This years example: TBL lose in the first round to the CBJ. There would be 8 teams left. 31 - 8 = 23. Line of thinking would be they would get the 23rd pick. But if I'm correct, they would actually get the 27th pick as the best team in the reg season this year that didn't make a CF.

- SDSabre


This is true. All losers of the first round are slotted into 16-23, based on their reg season record. Then losers of the 2nd round, 24-27, 3rd round 28-29.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 5 @ 10:53 AM ET
Thinking about it more we should sign Olofsson now

Yea it might sound crazy
but it could be a David Pastrnak , Nikita Kucherov , Arvidsson type deal Where we’re rewarded

You can see him and jack are just going to click 4 points in 5 games
His skating and his Ovechkin like release is hard to ignore

If you can sign him for 3m for 4 -5 years or 3.5 that contract is going to be Great value for us

It would be better to sign him now then have him get 30G or have a crazy year with Jack and get 5m

And he be 29 or 28 if we get a 4 or 5 year contract now

- gerbe75pts

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 5 @ 10:54 AM ET
Points are the only indicator of being a good nhl hockey player.

Great point.

Leadership
Speed
Pp time
Grit and determination

Just points

- Boss34


Not doing battle with you today, Boss. You should know better by now, with your insinuations.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Apr 5 @ 10:55 AM ET
Thinking about it more we should sign Olofsson now

Yea it might sound crazy but it could be a David Pastrnak , Nikita Kucherov , Arvidsson type deal Where we’re rewarded

You can see him and jack are just going to click 4 points in 5 games
His skating and his Ovechkin like release is hard to ignore

If you can sign him for 3m for 4 -5 years or 3.5 that contract is going to be Great value for us

It would be better to sign him now then have him get 30G or have a crazy year with Jack and get 5m

And he be 29 or 28 if we get a 4 or 5 year contract now

- gerbe75pts



That would be foolish on both sides.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 5 @ 10:55 AM ET
[quote=TheSabresTaco]

It sounds crazy but it would be a smart decision he’s going to be 24 if you sign him now you have him long-term at a friendly contract
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 5 @ 10:57 AM ET
That would be foolish on both sides.
- Powerslave


I don’t think it’s foolish for our side at all
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 5 @ 10:57 AM ET
he wasn't tanking

tried to get duchene at deadline

- homiedclown



Homie- why are you still pretending that the Sabres went "all out" this season.

Maybe they didnt intend on completely "tanking" but they didnt "go for it" either

Of course goaloffson would have made us a better team then , tall tage.

Next year, goaloffson will have been brought along the right way. Not hurried . For a race to 8th place.

Botts would have mortgaged futures at some point this season ,if we were really trying to make the playoffs
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 5 @ 10:57 AM ET
I’ve had this same thought, but everyone I hear and read that covers Rochester said he really wasn’t playing great up until mid season.

I’m just happy he’s here now and looks good

- sbroads24


https://wgr550.radio.com/...ayers-arent-rushed-sabres

Folks should read this if you haven't yet.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Apr 5 @ 10:58 AM ET
I don’t think it’s foolish for our side at all
- gerbe75pts


It is if he doesn't pan out and ends up as yet another overpaid 4th line player
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Apr 5 @ 10:59 AM ET
https://wgr550.radio.com/...ayers-arent-rushed-sabres

Folks should read this if you haven't yet.

- TheSabresTaco



I've read it twice, which is why I'm choosing to stay mostly positive regarding the direction.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 5 @ 10:59 AM ET
[quote=gerbe75pts]

A smart decision on what? A 6 game sample size of a promising player? I like him, but it's not in the player's best interest to sign a low contract a year before he's due. It's just not how business works. Or, Botts can say here's 3M for 3 years. What if he doesn't pan out? Botts and the org look like dopes (in this scenario)
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Apr 5 @ 11:01 AM ET
[quote=TheSabresTaco]


This
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Apr 5 @ 11:01 AM ET
Should be an interesting offseason.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 5 @ 11:02 AM ET
I've read it twice, which is why I'm choosing to stay mostly positive regarding the direction.
- Powerslave


The anomaly here is Thompson. Every single prospect other than Thompson went to Rochester. Every one. I don't get it.
Whatnot78
Buffalo Sabres
Location: last place heros, VA
Joined: 02.21.2007

Apr 5 @ 11:03 AM ET
I don’t think it’s foolish for our side at all
- gerbe75pts


So we should have extended Middlestat last year based on his end of year stint with the club?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 5 @ 11:03 AM ET
Must be an interesting offseason.
- SABRES 89


Fixed for expectations.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 5 @ 11:03 AM ET
Not doing battle with you today, Boss. You should know better by now, with your insinuations.
- TheSabresTaco



I appreciate the non combatant view.

1 page - pommer only has 9 points because he played with jack

Another page- sam is on pace for 65 points. No mention of his time with jack.

I think both pommer and sam had good seasons
Well above expectations. (Mine anyways)

If trading sam helps this team. They need to do it.
If pommer returning hurts this team, they need to not offer him a contract.

Pretty simple
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