It is insane. McDavid puts up over 100 on an equally bad team with a more burly Reinhart in Draisaitl and a non sniper version of Skinner in RNH and people have all the reasons for it.

Eichel leads his team to last place finishes and just above a .ppg and has a worse attitude than a 5 year old with pin-worms and diarrhea and "what did you expect on a team this bad?".

The tank teams had less talent and were just as bad.

I expected him to be on the main stats page on nhl.com in at least 1 category. I expected November's effeort and results in March and a finish around 10th in the East and 20th overall.

I got none of what I expected from Eichel.

Reinhart is a 20/40 guy, Skinner I expected 40 from, Dahlin is where he should be.

Mitts, Sheary, Okposo, Sobotka, Rodriguez, Girgensons, Larsson I expected much, much more from. Pominville should have been 20/20 but our moron coach couldnt figure out if he was a 1st liner or a 4th liner and gave him no PP time.

The entire defense corps disappointed sans Dahlin.

I expected a few more call-ups sooner and that is on our GM.

At the end of the day, these are NHL players. They did not perform and it is mostly on them. The locker room clearly has issues if they can't elevate each other to a higher level.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Much better take than the Roy comparison

Eichel is really good,
but we are still waiting for him to be “great”

At least the Habs are out of the playoffs now. That's....something.

Buffalo Sabres fans who emotionally detached themselves from the team during a precipitous drop the last four months, last night's final game at KeyBank Center wuas a feel-good opportunity and their team delivered. While the diehards took in Game-41 of their Sabres home schedule pounding down (relatively) cheap grub while toying with their Jack Eichel bobblehead and/or hoping to get in on one of the many prizes being given away

This sounds %100 like one of our posters.

Great goal by pomminville, who is good because he is old.

Why aren't we discussing / debating who we select between 3-7 overall?

Lottery on Tuesday.
Everything we're discussing would become rather mute if we landed Jack Hughes or Kakko. Then Jack would have a few comparables but I mean Leafs got lucky, I believe Mitch Marner is a superior player to Austin Mathews and that was not expected. I believe they caved in with Nylander's Price Tag, Coach two-face is whining that Leaf players should take discount in favor of team but compares Toronto to Tampa where there is zero income tax, its where the Rich have set up the system in their favor. Like the Hunger games. But I digress, We should all be able to agree that Jack compares favorably to his Talented Peers.

#1 OA Pick John Tavares C - 709pts in 750gms 11M
#1 OA Pick Austin Mathews C - 204pts in 210gms 11.6M
#4 OA Mitch Marner RW - 223pts in 240 gms 800K Lmao!
#8 OA William Nylander - RW - 161pts in 237 gms 7M


#2 OA Jack Eichel C - 257pts in 285 gms 10M
#2 OA Sam Reinhart C/W?? - 204pts in 330 gms 3.5M
#7 OA Jeff Skinner LW - 440pts in 660 gms ???? 7x8 Playoff Bonuses


Jack consistently Makes all players around him produce significantly better bringing up their level of play.

Great players can make average players look good, Good Players look Great.

If we can't shed Okposo, and I have a silver lining there as well then he should be on the Top Line with Jack and Oloffson.
Time we let Sam help Mittlestat and Sheary

Oloffson - Eichel - Okposo/Trade/FA

Reinhart - Mittlestat - Sheary/Nylander/Trade/FA

Erod - DylanCozens/AlexTurcotte - Thompson

Wilson - Asplund - Pekar

Buffalo Sabres fans who emotionally detached themselves from the team during a precipitous drop the last four months, last night's final game at KeyBank Center wuas a feel-good opportunity and their team delivered. While the diehards took in Game-41 of their Sabres home schedule pounding down (relatively) cheap grub while toying with their Jack Eichel bobblehead and/or hoping to get in on one of the many prizes being given away

This sounds %100 like one of our posters.

Great goal by pomminville, who is good because he is old.
- Der Kaiser

? Why the hate? His last post game coment, "I smiled when I came to Buffalo, I cried when I left. He became the 10th Leading Goal Scorer in Buffalo Sabres History.
He never lacked effort, heart, skill, and was a consumate professional.

At least the Habs are out of the playoffs now. That's....something.
- kritter65

Im with you on this, normally I would think I would not want the Canes in but I like their Young Fiesty Club and they have the MOST Salary Cap room in the entire league!

At least the Habs are out of the playoffs now. That's....something.
- kritter65

Screw the hurricanes

Screw the hurricanes
- gerbe75pts

Screw us, the Sabre fans, who talk themselves into the notion that this season was GMJB’s plan all along and that everything is just fine.

? Why the hate? His last post game coment, "I smiled when I came to Buffalo, I cried when I left. He became the 10th Leading Goal Scorer in Buffalo Sabres History.
He never lacked effort, heart, skill, and was a consumate professional.
- MEBSabresFAN

He’s not hating on pomminville.

Screw us, the Sabre fans, who talk themselves into the notion that this season was GMJB’s plan all along and that everything is just fine.
- PrinceChill

Gmtm got 3 years, he was in a rush. Let’s slow down here.


Screw the leaves and French Canadians.

? Why the hate? His last post game coment, "I smiled when I came to Buffalo, I cried when I left. He became the 10th Leading Goal Scorer in Buffalo Sabres History.
He never lacked effort, heart, skill, and was a consumate professional.
- MEBSabresFAN

It’s not hate and it’s not directed toward Pomminville.

It’s just a comment observing that the guy was paid huge money and failed to perform. But some posters here were OK with that, and even praised him, because he was 36 years old.

That's actually 11.

Math-o-lainen 😉
- Powerslave

This is entirely too funny and clever for HB

It’s not hate and it’s not directed toward Pomminville.

It’s just a comment observing that the guy was paid huge money and failed to perform. But some posters here were OK with that, and even praised him, because he was 36 years old.
- Der Kaiser

Pommer is 4th in goals scored as a Sabres player this season , despite being 36 years old.

He outworked and outperformed many other current players this season.

All time: Buffalo Sabres living legend

Guys like this come around every decade or 2.

Proud to be a fan. Thursday night was special.
Of course pommer scored, he has a knack for dramatic goals.

Buffalo fans understand what integrity and playing for the home crest is all about. Imagine a player actually wanting to play for this dysfunctional franchise.

Long live the legend

This is entirely too funny and clever for HB
- Khmylev

😂

[quote=MEBSabresFAN]Why aren't we discussing / debating who we select between 3-7 overall?

Lottery on Tuesday.
Everything we're discussing would become rather mute if we landed Jack Hughes or Kakko...

I have started my reading on the top 30sh prospects, focused more on the 3-10 guys for now.
I continue to like what read about a number of them and in that range it is highly likely the Sabres get a Top 6 (probably Top 3) and likely will be 1 or 2 years away from the big club.

Having watched this team through the past 5 or 6 years through the "rebuilds"; the Sabres need to prioritize a few factors as they draw-up their draft board.

IMO they need to prioritize the following:
I) General Player Profile
#1 - High Hockey IQ - Keen understanding of hockey concepts, plays with anticipation, elite time and space awareness, ...
#2 - Mentally strong, comes through in critical situations, doesn't wilt under pressure
#3 - Elite skating, edgework, acceleration
#4 - Above average physicality, strong on the puck, possession beast on the boards, penchant for going to the dirty areas (not a perimeter player), playing with an edge is a bonus
#4 - Defensively aware, responsible
II) Skills
- Quick release
- Accurate shot
- Soft hands, stickhandlingly ability

Those are the attributes I'll look for.
Kakko embodies many of them, but unless the Sabres win or find 2nd place in the lottery, he won't be there.
I continue to like what I read about Cozens, fits a good portion of the above.
Also, Krebs seems to fit the profile as well.
That is about as far as I have progressed so far.

[quote=MEBSabresFAN]Why aren't we discussing / debating who we select between 3-7 overall?

Lottery on Tuesday.
Everything we're discussing would become rather mute if we landed Jack Hughes or Kakko...

I have started my reading on the top 30sh prospects, focused more on the 3-10 guys for now.
I continue to like what read about a number of them and in that range it is highly likely the Sabres get a Top 6 (probably Top 3) and likely will be 1 or 2 years away from the big club.

Having watched this team through the past 5 or 6 years through the "rebuilds"; the Sabres need to prioritize a few factors as the draw-up their draft board. IMO they need to prioritize as:
I) General Player Profile
#1 - High Hockey IQ - Keen understanding of hockey concepts, plays with anticipation, elite time and space awareness, ...
#2 - Mentally strong, comes through in critical situations, doesn't wilt under pressure
#3 - Elite skating, edgework, acceleration
#4 - Above average physicality, strong on the puck, possession beast on the boards, penchant for going to the dirty areas (not a perimeter player), playing with an edge is a bonus
#4 - Defensively aware, responsible
II) Skills
- Quick release
- Accurate shot
- Soft hands, stickhandlingly ability

Those are the attributes I'll look for.
Kakko embodies many of them, but unless the Sabres win or find 2nd place in the lottery, he won't be there.
I continue to like what I read about Cozens, fits a good portion of the above.
Also, Krebs seems to fit the profile as well.
That is about as far as I have progressed so far.
- IonSabres

Zegras is very similar to Barzal

Turcotte is somewhere between Barkov and Bo Horvat. But closer to Barkov. 200ft Centre with great offensive skills.

Boldy is a very good 200 ft winger for his age group who could be a mark stone for a franchise down the line.

Podkolzin is really the wildcard in all of this. He has elite skills with a bit of snarl but do we want to wait the 3 years for him to come over from Russia as I believe he’s locked into his KHL contract for at least 2 years.

Add in Cozens and Byram and there will be someone in the 3-7 range that will fit in nicely with this core moving forward. My personal preference for the top 7 right now.

1)Hughes
2)Kakko
3)Turcotte
4)Byram
5) Cozens
6)Zegras
7)Boldy/Podkolzin

Did the sim 5 times, got 3rd once and 4 times got 6th.

I do think the pick is gonna be around 5th-6th. We will get an excellent prospect and my first choice in that slot is Turcotte followed by Cozens. Either player will be a solid choice.

Turcotte is a 200 foot player and plays the game well at both ends of the ice and he battles constantly, no quit. A great skater and has a ton of skill. He's had some injuries and has committed to Wisconsin for next year and he will play with Sabres prospect Linus Weissbach. He's probably the best two way center in the draft.

Cozens is another strong all around center or winger with elite speed and skill in his 6'3" frame. He has a heavy shot and will also battle. He's a shoot first center who can play the power game effectively.

My choice in the 5th or 6th slot. I'm leaning slightly to Turcotte at this point but if we get the 5th pick and the first four are Hughes, Kakko, Podkolzin and Byram we will have a number of forwards to choose from, including Dach.

My .02

Zegras is very similar to Barzal

Turcotte is somewhere between Barkov and Bo Horvat. But closer to Barkov. 200ft Centre with great offensive skills.

Boldy is a very good 200 ft winger for his age group who could be a mark stone for a franchise down the line.

Podkolzin is really the wildcard in all of this. He has elite skills with a bit of snarl but do we want to wait the 3 years for him to come over from Russia as I believe he’s locked into his KHL contract for at least 2 years.

Add in Cozens and Byram and there will be someone in the 3-7 range that will fit in nicely with this core moving forward. My personal preference for the top 7 right now.

1)Hughes
2)Kakko
3)Turcotte
4)Byram
5) Cozens
6)Zegras
7)Boldy/Podkolzin
- Pegullaville

Podkolzin is the wild card, agree. Will teams take a chance on him? It will be a tough decision for a team like NJ, if they get the 3rd pick. They might be willing to wait on Podkolzin and just pick him and see him and Nico as linemates down the road.

I think the 4th pick will be Byram and then there will be a bunch of forwards taken.

Zegras is very similar to Barzal

Turcotte is somewhere between Barkov and Bo Horvat. But closer to Barkov. 200ft Centre with great offensive skills.

Boldy is a very good 200 ft winger for his age group who could be a mark stone for a franchise down the line.

Podkolzin is really the wildcard in all of this. He has elite skills with a bit of snarl but do we want to wait the 3 years for him to come over from Russia as I believe he’s locked into his KHL contract for at least 2 years.

Add in Cozens and Byram and there will be someone in the 3-7 range that will fit in nicely with this core moving forward. My personal preference for the top 7 right now.

1)Hughes
2)Kakko
3)Turcotte
4)Byram
5) Cozens
6)Zegras
7)Boldy/Podkolzin
- Pegullaville

I appreciate your input, I know Prospects is a thing of yours from various posts.when you rank them, what is your criteria you use?

Why aren't we discussing / debating who we select between 3-7 overall?

Lottery on Tuesday.
Everything we're discussing would become rather mute if we landed Jack Hughes or Kakko. Then Jack would have a few comparables but I mean Leafs got lucky, I believe Mitch Marner is a superior player to Austin Mathews and that was not expected. I believe they caved in with Nylander's Price Tag, Coach two-face is whining that Leaf players should take discount in favor of team but compares Toronto to Tampa where there is zero income tax, its where the Rich have set up the system in their favor. Like the Hunger games. But I digress, We should all be able to agree that Jack compares favorably to his Talented Peers.

#1 OA Pick John Tavares C - 709pts in 750gms 11M
#1 OA Pick Austin Mathews C - 204pts in 210gms 11.6M
#4 OA Mitch Marner RW - 223pts in 240 gms 800K Lmao!
#8 OA William Nylander - RW - 161pts in 237 gms 7M


#2 OA Jack Eichel C - 257pts in 285 gms 10M
#2 OA Sam Reinhart C/W?? - 204pts in 330 gms 3.5M
#7 OA Jeff Skinner LW - 440pts in 660 gms ???? 7x8 Playoff Bonuses


Jack consistently Makes all players around him produce significantly better bringing up their level of play.

Great players can make average players look good, Good Players look Great.

If we can't shed Okposo, and I have a silver lining there as well then he should be on the Top Line with Jack and Oloffson.
Time we let Sam help Mittlestat and Sheary

Oloffson - Eichel - Okposo/Trade/FA

Reinhart - Mittlestat - Sheary/Nylander/Trade/FA

Erod - DylanCozens/AlexTurcotte - Thompson

Wilson - Asplund - Pekar
- MEBSabresFAN

I already know who I want Turcotte everyone is going to look back and say how wasn’t he in a discussion for the first overall pick The Blackhawks are going to be licking their chops to move up

And Caufield with our late first will have to move up but he’s going to be worth it

Podkolzin is the wild card, agree. Will teams take a chance on him? It will be a tough decision for a team like NJ, if they get the 3rd pick. They might be willing to wait on Podkolzin and just pick him and see him and Nico as linemates down the road.

I think the 4th pick will be Byram and then there will be a bunch of forwards taken.
- mhp

Yea I mean I can see Detroit taking Byram he makes a lot of sense for them but they might like one of the forwards as well. This draft has quality Centres and like you mentioned it depends on team and preference. McKenzie’s latest tank had Dach at 4. So scouts seem divided on the Centres but regardless it seems like it’s a good group.

Podkolzin is the wild card, agree. Will teams take a chance on him? It will be a tough decision for a team like NJ, if they get the 3rd pick. They might be willing to wait on Podkolzin and just pick him and see him and Nico as linemates down the road.

I think the 4th pick will be Byram and then there will be a bunch of forwards taken.
- mhp

I would not be shocked if we pick byram if botts feels between davidsson, asplund, casey, olofsson and nylander, we have some impact kids up front

then pick a guy up front with the other pick and hope tage pans out

And Caufield with our late first will have to move up but he’s going to be worth it
- gerbe75pts

mocked to go 12th

I already know who I want Turcotte everyone is going to look back and say how wasn’t he in a discussion for the first overall pick The Blackhawks are going to be licking their chops to move up

And Caufield with our late first will have to move up but he’s going to be worth it
- gerbe75pts

You too Gerbe, you love the prospect evaluation stuff. You have hit on quite a few.
So I'm interested in how you arrive at your selection...what are the criteria you use to filter down on them?

I already know who I want Turcotte everyone is going to look back and say how wasn’t he in a discussion for the first overall pick The Blackhawks are going to be licking their chops to move up

And Caufield with our late first will have to move up but he’s going to be worth it
- gerbe75pts

I personally like Turcotte at 3OA as well like I mentioned earlier on the page.