The Calder is Pettersson's but no need to diminish the Blues' goalie by inaccurately describing him as "journeyman Binnington". He has only been under contract with one NHL team - the Blues. The fact that they switched minor league affiliates does not convert Binnington into a journeyman.
- atlantis17

Hey, he may win. We know how much the NHL likes VAN. Wouldn't surprise me. The meltdown would be epic!

I've pretty well written OJ off as a high end prospect, hopefully he can become a decent player in the pro's some day.

Maybe Tanev can showcase himself at the worlds and give JB a better chance of moving him for whatever he can get. He's got a tall order fixing the D.
- VanHockeyGuy

He's had a couple big surgeries. Can't fault him for that.

Let's see how he looks come training camp

Hey, he may win. We know how much the NHL likes VAN. Wouldn't surprise me. The meltdown would be epic!
- VanHockeyGuy

and in all fairness, what Binnington has done in STL is pretty impressive. But a goalie to win the calder for 33 games played would be pretty far fetched, especially given who he would be matched up against.

He's had a couple big surgeries. Can't fault him for that.

Let's see how he looks come training camp
- SMBDragon

I'd be happy to be wrong on this, you never know.

and in all fairness, what Binnington has done in STL is pretty impressive. But a goalie to win the calder for 33 games played would be pretty far fetched, especially given who he would be matched up against.
- Codes1087

Eastern bias/ignorance, they haven't seen him play lot's.

I'd be happy to be wrong on this, you never know.
- VanHockeyGuy

Personally I think the thing to do is introduce him to several of the young canucks. They can help prepare him for nhl life. Especially EP whose transition to nhl was pretty seamless.

Personally I think the thing to do is introduce him to several of the young canucks. They can help prepare him for nhl life. Especially EP whose transition to nhl was pretty seamless.
- SMBDragon

Id rather him maintain his health, grind out 20+ minutes on the top pair in Utica over the course of a half of a season minimum before we start to introduce him to the big club. I haven't given up on Juolevi as a prospect, but I think getting acclimated to the North American Ice/Game and maintaining his health over the course of the season is more important than pro exposure.

Id rather him maintain his health, grind out 20+ minutes on the top pair in Utica over the course of a half of a season minimum before we start to introduce him to the big club. I haven't given up on Juolevi as a prospect, but I think getting acclimated to the North American Ice/Game and maintaining his health over the course of the season is more important than pro exposure.
- Codes1087

And that will take awhile, let him simmer in the AHL.

Id rather him maintain his health, grind out 20+ minutes on the top pair in Utica over the course of a half of a season minimum before we start to introduce him to the big club. I haven't given up on Juolevi as a prospect, but I think getting acclimated to the North American Ice/Game and maintaining his health over the course of the season is more important than pro exposure.
- Codes1087

I did mean IF he was ready to come up

@ Vantel

I wouldn't mind taking a crack at Kapenen and saying good-bye to Granlund(or pencil him in for 4th line RW for next season, until Rooster is back)

Dzingle - Ep - Boeser
Pearson - Bo - Kapenen
JV - Gaudette - Leivo
Motte - Beagle - Granlund/Rooster

And that will take awhile, let him simmer in the AHL.
- VanHockeyGuy

absolutely

kid has a little ways to go before he should be stepping on the ice in a Canuck uni. Not going to give up on him as a prospect, but we should let him develop properly and not rush him, especially given his injuries.

I did mean IF he was ready to come up
- SMBDragon

we had such a small sample size to go from last year in Utica. I could be wrong, I don't know how Cull or Benning or anyone viewed his limited playing time there, but I imagine he needs a little bit more time to develop.

How wasn't that goaltender interference?
- SMBDragon

Toronto considered all the important factors:

Goal scored by the home team - check
Home team is losing - check
Home team is in a preferred developing market - check
Home team is in a close race for playoff positioning - check
Impeded goalie is a Canuck - check

"Call on the ice stands. We have a good goal."

Pretty straightforward really.

Toronto considered all the important factors:

Goal scored by the home team - check
Home team is losing - check
Home team is in a preferred developing market - check
Home team is in a close race for playoff positioning - check
Impeded goalie is a Canuck - check

"Call on the ice stands. We have a good goal."

Pretty straightforward really.
- YeOldTimer

Take you back to a simpler time. A time when heckling guys on the opposing team meant something. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k8cmgjFa3V4

The Calder is Pettersson's but no need to diminish the Blues' goalie by inaccurately describing him as "journeyman Binnington". He has only been under contract with one NHL team - the Blues. The fact that they switched minor league affiliates does not convert Binnington into a journeyman.
- atlantis17

Thanks for this. I think you and I understand the term 'journeyman' differently.

From Wikipedia:

"In American English, a journeyman or journeywoman is an athlete who is technically competent but unable to excel.[1] The term is used elsewhere (such as in British and Australian contexts) to refer to a professional sportsman who plays for a large number of different clubs during their career.[2] In Britain, the term is also used derogatorily, along with mercenary, to refer to players who join various affluent clubs purely in search of higher contractual payouts rather than to further their career; usually clubs which they would likely never join otherwise."

That first definition is how I intended to describe Binnington: he's 25 and has been a career minor-leaguer until this season. I didn't think at all about whether he had bounced around, but apparently that is a common usage in Britain and Australia.

No disrespect intended—and I'll be a bit more careful with how I use the term going forward!

this is exactly my thinking too. We know we are going to overpay for any free agent this summer, so staying away from all of them is ideal.

I think there a few teams that are in for a tough summer to sign players. TOR/VGK/SJ to name a couple. Johnsson and Kapanen are two names I would look at buying low on.
- Codes1087

Agreeing with Vantel and others. Don't sign someone like Dzingle. Trade for a younger version with more upside.

I never watch the Leafs so I couldn't tell you anything about either player, but Kapanen has the size advantage. Canucks have to start building a roster that will be less susceptible to injuries and more effective in future post-season play.

Canucks have some surplus roster assets now as well as cap space that can be used as an advantage. Maybe Kapanen and Horton's contract for Hutton and Goldobin?

Thanks for this. I think you and I understand the term 'journeyman' differently.

From Wikipedia:

"In American English, a journeyman or journeywoman is an athlete who is technically competent but unable to excel.
- Carol Schram[1] The term is used elsewhere (such as in British and Australian contexts) to refer to a professional sportsman who plays for a large number of different clubs during their career.[2] In Britain, the term is also used derogatorily, along with mercenary, to refer to players who join various affluent clubs purely in search of higher contractual payouts rather than to further their career; usually clubs which they would likely never join otherwise."

That first definition is how I intended to describe Binnington: he's 25 and has been a career minor-leaguer until this season. I didn't think at all about whether he had bounced around, but apparently that is a common usage in Britain and Australia.

No disrespect intended—and I'll be a bit more careful with how I use the term going forward!

We've got this, Carol.

Thanks for this. I think you and I understand the term 'journeyman' differently.

From Wikipedia:

"In American English, a journeyman or journeywoman is an athlete who is technically competent but unable to excel.
- Carol Schram[1] The term is used elsewhere (such as in British and Australian contexts) to refer to a professional sportsman who plays for a large number of different clubs during their career.[2] In Britain, the term is also used derogatorily, along with mercenary, to refer to players who join various affluent clubs purely in search of higher contractual payouts rather than to further their career; usually clubs which they would likely never join otherwise."

That first definition is how I intended to describe Binnington: he's 25 and has been a career minor-leaguer until this season. I didn't think at all about whether he had bounced around, but apparently that is a common usage in Britain and Australia.

No disrespect intended—and I'll be a bit more careful with how I use the term going forward!

You have to be aware of feelings Carol or you will have people in here crying the Blues

Agreeing with Vantel and others. Don't sign someone like Dzingle. Trade for a younger version with more upside.

I never watch the Leafs so I couldn't tell you anything about either player, but Kapanen has the size advantage. Canucks have to start building a roster that will be less susceptible to injuries and more effective in future post-season play.

Canucks have some surplus roster assets now as well as cap space that can be used as an advantage. Maybe Kapanen and Horton's contract for Hutton and Goldobin?
- YeOldTimer

That offer could be close. Depends on interest around the league.

You have to be aware of feelings Carol or you will have people in here crying the Blues
- VANTEL

How many times do I have to tell you I still go Commando


- VANTEL

The French in you is forever.

we had such a small sample size to go from last year in Utica. I could be wrong, I don't know how Cull or Benning or anyone viewed his limited playing time there, but I imagine he needs a little bit more time to develop.
- Codes1087

He actually played really well in his short sample size. This talk about poor edge work and not being able to turn quick enough is absolute horsesh*t. He came into Utica and immediately was making a positive impact which is huge for a 20 yr old. Another thing to consider was he was playing with Chatfield (who's fawking terrible) and with Kulbakov in net - who's a mediocre ECHL goalie didn't help much. Now mind you he definitely has hurdles to overcome but he got a lot of criticism from guys checking stats and not actually watching the games. I believe the plan was an after xmas call up If he hadnt of been injured. and would've replaced Pouliot. I think he starts back in Utica again next year and he should be on track to be first call up after 20 + games or so. He's obviously had some poopty luck with injuries but he has a high ceiling. He's getting written off before he's played a minute in the NHL but its usually by the fans that have the patience of a wet cat.

He actually played really well in his short sample size. This talk about poor edge work and not being able to turn quick enough is absolute horsesh*t. He came into Utica and immediately was making a positive impact which is huge for a 20 yr old. Another thing to consider was he was playing with Chatfield (who's fawking terrible) and with Kulbakov in net - who's a mediocre ECHL goalie didn't help much. Now mind you he definitely has hurdles to overcome but he got a lot of criticism from guys checking stats and not actually watching the games. I believe the plan was an after xmas call up If he hadnt of been injured. and would've replaced Pouliot. I think he starts back in Utica again next year and he should be on track to be first call up after 20 + games or so. He's obviously had some poopty luck with injuries but he has a high ceiling. He's getting written off before he's played a minute in the NHL but its usually by the fans that have the patience of a wet cat.
- Brooks_Light

i didn't mention his edgework or skating, truthfully, i haven't watched a single game he played in Utica. I would see highlight packages/gifs from time to time online but never had a chance to watch him. I am just saying, he has more games played in his final year of junior than he does the last 2 years/seasons combined. No point in rushing him to the pro's, especially given his injuries.

Brooks... glad you could make it. Saw you talking with my old posts in the last blog long after I left.