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Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 7 @ 6:59 PM ET
I hope Benning gets creative bring in some top 6 talent.

Pacioretty, Kadri, Wennberg, Johnson, Miller and Granlund are guys I would be kicking tires on to see they could be had for a bargain.

- belcherbd

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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 7 @ 7:06 PM ET
I hope Benning gets creative bring in some top 6 talent.

Pacioretty, Kadri, Wennberg, Johnson, Miller and Granlund are guys I would be kicking tires on to see they could be had for a bargain.

- belcherbd



Yes to Granlund(but trade his bro as part of the deal lol) and Miller(both JT and Colin)


Patches too old, I don't see Dubas selling Kadri for a bargain, Johnson/Wennberg meh
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 7 @ 7:07 PM ET
Adding him would definitely change that, we would lose them games by 2.
- Reubenkincade


VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 7 @ 7:09 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun

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The Los Angeles Kings have asked Edmonton permission to speak with Todd McLellan
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 7 @ 7:16 PM ET
Ya, it seems to work for good teams. Like every team in the playoffs for example.
- neem55

It’s not a bad idea other than we lack balance in a big way.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 7 @ 7:20 PM ET
If Doughty, universally recognized as one of the leagues best all round players is 2nd at -34 it should emphasize both how useless a stat +/- is and how significant being on a bad team is.

Risto isn't a good defender but hes not nearly as bad as some make out and is excellent offensively, in particular on the PP.

- belcherbd


+/- speaks of personal & team play. As in any stat it’s interpretation. Crap goalies can skew +/-. The legit good players drive a team like EK did in Ottawa or they can get mired on horrible teams. The eye test need be added for a better judgement.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 7 @ 7:24 PM ET
I think you’re setting the bar high there, by those standards not very many centers drive play either.


To me a forward skilled enough to create space for himself and his line mates with his skill/speed/IQ fits that mold.

Doesn’t have to be a PPG+ player. Top teams have line drivers on their 2nd or sometimes even 3rd line if they’re spreading the wealth, but those guys aren’t always PPG players.

- Nucker101


Yes i set a high bar but that’s what i see as who is elite or not. Chemistry can be everything. Hard work & IQ goes a long ways. Skill needs excel to make others better. Snipers need a set up man...Hull & Oates, OV. Those with more game Sid for example carry teams. Puck possession & retrieval is the most important aspect.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Apr 7 @ 7:25 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun

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The Los Angeles Kings have asked Edmonton permission to speak with Todd McLellan

- VANTEL


Ilya Kovalchuk just breathed a sigh of relief.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 7 @ 7:26 PM ET
I agree to an extent, but I probably don’t value him as highly as Buffalo does. To me he’s a #4 PP specialist. Needs a steady partner to carry him at 5v5 when he starts running around.


I can’t imagine Torts coaching him

- Nucker101


This is true but offense is hard to find & a steady stay at home D can be drafted & developed. D pairings need both.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Apr 7 @ 7:48 PM ET
Impossible. Truth be told I can barely read anymore. I have several books on wine I purchased on Amazon a few months back and they are just sitting on my rich mahogany table collecting dust. My pursuit of being a sommelier lasted two pages.
- CanuckDon


The real Somms are the ones with worldly experience. Books are for Betas. Go to France, drink some wine with food. Visit a vineyard. You’re good to go.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Apr 7 @ 8:33 PM ET
Kirby Dach playing on Sportsnet if anyone’s interested. Has the game’s lone goal & it was a nice one.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 7 @ 8:41 PM ET
Kirby Dach playing on Sportsnet if anyone’s interested. Has the game’s lone goal & it was a nice one.
- DrChristianTroy


Would be very happy with Kirby Boldy or Byram.
Thanks for letting us know.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 7 @ 9:00 PM ET
The real Somms are the ones with worldly experience. Books are for Betas. Go to France, drink some wine with food. Visit a vineyard. You’re good to go.
- 1970vintage

Been wine drinking in Argentina and Australia. Spain in September. France one day
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 7 @ 9:10 PM ET
Would be very happy with Kirby Boldy or Byram.
Thanks for letting us know.

- Reubenkincade

I’ve come around on Dach & like your choices along with Zegras & Turcotte.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 7 @ 9:20 PM ET
Kirby Dach playing on Sportsnet if anyone’s interested. Has the game’s lone goal & it was a nice one.
- DrChristianTroy

Winger or Center in the NHL? Better then Bo?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 7 @ 9:23 PM ET
Winger or Center in the NHL? Better then Bo?
- manvanfan

He is 17. Who the (frank) knows. Kid is knocked for his inconsistent effort so he is definitely a boom or bust prospect
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 7 @ 9:24 PM ET
He is 17. Who the (frank) knows. Kid is knocked for his inconsistent effort so he is definitely a boom or bust prospect
- CanuckDon

shut up. You're stupid.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 7 @ 9:31 PM ET
shut up. You're stupid.
- manvanfan

At least I’m not a smurf living in a white panel van
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 7 @ 9:45 PM ET
Yes to Granlund(but trade his bro as part of the deal lol) and Miller(both JT and Colin)


Patches too old, I don't see Dubas selling Kadri for a bargain, Johnson/Wennberg meh

- Nucker101


I see all as upgrades on the wing for either Petey or Bo and while I doubt all are available, I could see a few on the move.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 7 @ 9:47 PM ET
I’ve come around on Dach & like your choices along with Zegras & Turcotte.
- Nighthawk



I didn't watch the first period but there was absolutely nothing that impressed me about him in the second period.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 7 @ 9:47 PM ET
Flagged.
- Marwood


Because of the hit on Danny or because he is a leaf?

He's young, skilled and willing to fight his own battles. I think he would complement Petey very well.
Tigersmyle
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Maple Ridge, BC
Joined: 03.17.2017

Apr 7 @ 9:51 PM ET
WillieD just got let go we can bring him back
- VANTEL

Can he drive a Zamboni or cook a hotdog ?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 7 @ 9:51 PM ET
Because of the hit on Danny or because he is a leaf?

He's young, skilled and willing to fight his own battles. I think he would complement Petey very well.

- belcherbd


Seems bizarre to pay the price to acquire a center just to use him as a wing, sure the flexibility is nice but if the main target is a LW for winger than I don’t think acquiring a natural Center through trade makes much sense.

Centers have inflated market value compared to wingers.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 7 @ 9:56 PM ET
He is 17. Who the (frank) knows. Kid is knocked for his inconsistent effort so he is definitely a boom or bust prospect
- CanuckDon



He looks 17
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 7 @ 10:05 PM ET
Seems bizarre to pay the price to acquire a center just to use him as a wing, sure the flexibility is nice but if the main target is a LW for winger than I don’t think acquiring a natural Center through trade makes much sense.

Centers have inflated market value compared to wingers.

- Nucker101


For me its more about getting actual established top 6 NHLers to support Bo and Petey. Many teams have an abundance of C's. While you are right the cost would be more, good players are worth it.
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