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Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 9 @ 11:02 AM ET
Im not seeing that many thinking the Pens have this in the bag...

Get that reverse jinx sh!t outta here!

- MattStrat

Oh you’ve been jinxed already. There’s no undoing that.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 9 @ 11:03 AM ET


You think Greiss or Lehner could be a No1 on any other team?

- Murphy_Dump

You think a .927 and .930 sv% aren't any good?
joecool2931
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rillton, PA
Joined: 09.03.2015

Apr 9 @ 11:04 AM ET
You're quite dumb. If predictions were almost always wrong all of Vegas oddsmaker would be out of work.

Sports predictions are far more often right than wrong. That is a fact, you cant dispute that.

- Guile


what the lines of this series though?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 9 @ 11:07 AM ET


You think Greiss or Lehner could be a No1 on any other team?

- Murphy_Dump

Oh man.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Apr 9 @ 11:08 AM ET
what the lines of this series though?
- joecool2931


Hopefully coke.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 9 @ 11:12 AM ET
Listen pittsburgh has always been my second favorite team but let’s be real here. The islanders played the penguins pretty good this year. Everybody has said the islanders are not a team with talent but besides that they fell one point shy of Washington for first place. Do the islanders have issues?? Yes. Do the pens have holes in their team? Yes. Are both teams going to go out there and fight their hardest? Yes. This can go either way no matter what people say
- kasperrko


You don't make sense. First you say throw the regular season out the window, now you want to use how the Isles played the Pens in the regular season...which is it?

Fact is, more often than not, the higher seed wins. Not all of the time, but most of the time. Like you said, anything can happen in the playoffs (injuries, hot/cold streaks), but that's different than saying that things are likely to happen. In this particular series, even though the Islanders are the higher seed, I think the Penguins matchup against them better, on paper.

I don't think the Isles will roll over and die, and if they can pounce on the Penguins turnovers and capitalize on their counterattacks, plus get spectacular goaltending, they definitely could take the series. But right now, I don't see them making it past Game 6.
Murphy_Dump
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2014

Apr 9 @ 11:13 AM ET
You think a .927 and .930 sv% aren't any good?
- Feds91Stammer


I didn't say that, I said they would not be No1 goalies on any other team.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 9 @ 11:15 AM ET
I didn't say that, I said they would not be No1 goalies on any other team.
- Murphy_Dump

Why is that?
Murphy_Dump
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2014

Apr 9 @ 11:19 AM ET
Why is that?
- Feds91Stammer


Regressing PDO.

This is totally a product of Trotz's system, before this the best season either of them had was Greiss in 15/16 with 2.36 and .925
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 9 @ 11:20 AM ET
Regressing PDO
- Murphy_Dump

Obviously those sv% are not likely replicated but I don't see why you can't see at least Lehner as being a solid #1
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 9 @ 11:21 AM ET
Obviously those sv% are not likely replicated but I don't see why you can't see at least Lehner as being a solid #1
- Feds91Stammer

And Greiss is a career .915 guy so that is starter material as well.
Murphy_Dump
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2014

Apr 9 @ 11:29 AM ET
And Greiss is a career .915 guy so that is starter material as well.
- Feds91Stammer


Greiss has been a fringe No1 through his career, I think his time as a No1 is past due to his age.

Lehner is too inconsistent for me outside of this one good season, I think he should just sign a contract with whatever team Trotz is coaching and he could turn out to have a decent career, we will see after this season i guess.

I guess my main point is that a good portion of their stats are due to Trotz. He probably could've got similar numbers with Cam Ward as the goalie this year (I'm being facetious of course, Cam Ward is terrible)

kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Apr 9 @ 11:31 AM ET
Also can go either way is not one in the same as saying statistically the pens are more likely to win...
- Feds91Stammer


Dude stop trying to act smart cause it isn’t working
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Apr 9 @ 11:34 AM ET
You don't make sense. First you say throw the regular season out the window, now you want to use how the Isles played the Pens in the regular season...which is it?

Fact is, more often than not, the higher seed wins. Not all of the time, but most of the time. Like you said, anything can happen in the playoffs (injuries, hot/cold streaks), but that's different than saying that things are likely to happen. In this particular series, even though the Islanders are the higher seed, I think the Penguins matchup against them better, on paper.

I don't think the Isles will roll over and die, and if they can pounce on the Penguins turnovers and capitalize on their counterattacks, plus get spectacular goaltending, they definitely could take the series. But right now, I don't see them making it past Game 6.

- jmatchett383


Well we have proven everyone wrong so far so I guess let’s see what happens. I like being the under dog no pressure. Pens will have all the pressure in this series which for a team like them shouldn’t be an issue, but the point being made islanders are not as bad as everyone thinks and anything can happen.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 9 @ 11:34 AM ET
Dude stop trying to act smart cause it isn’t working
- kasperrko

lol sick argument. So is the regular season important or not? make up your mind.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Apr 9 @ 11:34 AM ET
Dude stop trying to act smart cause it isn’t working
- kasperrko


But you said the Islanders played the Pens pretty good in the regular season but none of that matters at all? Sooooo... I feel like you’re not smart? Or at the very least you’re indecisive because you can’t figure out if the regular season counts or it doesn’t.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Apr 9 @ 11:36 AM ET
Well we have proven everyone wrong so far so I guess let’s see what happens. I like being the under dog no pressure. Pens will have all the pressure in this series which for a team like them shouldn’t be an issue, but the point being made islanders are not as bad as everyone thinks and anything can happen.
- kasperrko


Weird how you can’t really differentiate between being a bad team and being the best matchup.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 9 @ 11:39 AM ET
Well we have proven everyone wrong so far so I guess let’s see what happens. I like being the under dog no pressure. Pens will have all the pressure in this series which for a team like them shouldn’t be an issue, but the point being made islanders are not as bad as everyone thinks and anything can happen.
- kasperrko


I don't think they're a bad team because the goalie makes up part of the team. However, I think the matchup favors the Penguins.
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Apr 9 @ 11:41 AM ET
lol sick argument. So is the regular season important or not? make up your mind.
- Feds91Stammer


Ok I am going to retract the statement that we played the pens good this season and start fresh. It will be like we never played each other before.
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Apr 9 @ 11:42 AM ET
Weird how you can’t really differentiate between being a bad team and being the best matchup.
- j.boyd919


I think the matchup is pretty even to be honest. Two great coaches going head to head. Islanders goaltending and Pittsburgh pretty even also defense. Offense edge goes to Pittsburgh but defense and goaltending win championships
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Apr 9 @ 11:44 AM ET
Well we have proven everyone wrong so far so I guess let’s see what happens. I like being the under dog no pressure. Pens will have all the pressure in this series which for a team like them shouldn’t be an issue, but the point being made islanders are not as bad as everyone thinks and anything can happen.
- kasperrko


Why?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 9 @ 11:45 AM ET
Ok I am going to retract the statement that we played the pens good this season and start fresh. It will be like we never played each other before.
- kasperrko

stop trying to sound smart dude.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Apr 9 @ 11:48 AM ET
I think the matchup is pretty even to be honest. Two great coaches going head to head. Islanders goaltending and Pittsburgh pretty even also defense. Offense edge goes to Pittsburgh but defense and goaltending win championships
- kasperrko



You no longer get to be honest after changing your viewpoint multiple times in the last hour.
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Apr 9 @ 11:50 AM ET
stop trying to sound smart dude.
- Feds91Stammer


Lol I deserved that
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Apr 9 @ 11:51 AM ET
Why?
- MattStrat


Let’s face if the pens made some trades to of course try to win the cup. Islanders were a team that was supposed be the worst in the league
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