I'm not, but we can't have a big signing for multiple years and risk losing ABD or Strome. I have hope for Perlini, but I think, at best, he'll be a third liner who can play top 6 for a few games.
- tvetter

i would be okay if they let Perlini walk but get why some are reluctant to do that. The guy was sat for multiple games and even during games and still doesn't seem to get it. Either he is the dumbest person on the face of the Earth or he is just doesn't have that internal drive.

I think the Hawks can fix that with a new skate sharpener.
- paulr

Slicing his throat seem a little drastic.

I'd rather Jokiharju plays all year than a guy that isn't going to be here when it matters. If 2 or 3 of the young d-prospects are going to be part of the d-corps in a few years - they need to get some NHL experience under their belt even know they will take some lumps early on.
- EbonyRaptor

That's fair.

i would be okay if they let Perlini walk but get why some are reluctant to do that. The guy was sat for multiple games and even during games and still doesn't seem to get it. Either he is the dumbest person on the face of the Earth or he is just doesn't have that internal drive.
- Elbows15

He’s still only 22...for a few more days anyway. Like D-men, power forward types often take longer to figure things out at the top level. I’m skeptical that he ever puts it all together consistently, but he has things (size and speed) that can’t be taught, so I’d prefer to take a longer look before letting him walk.

Disclaimer: I'm not very good at judging the "fairness" of trades to both sides.

I wonder if a trade using the #3 pick and possibly other assets, if needed, would land the Hawks Hampus Lindholm from Anaheim or Mattias Ekholm from Nashville. Thoughts?
- EbonyRaptor

Ekholm is probably an untouchable.

And as much as Bob "never an NHL coach before" Murray's ploy to "coach' watching the assistants to tank didn't work, and they didn't get the tanking prize they expected,
I am not sure he is gutting his defense to move up. If you want to throw in Murphy and raise the Blackhawk Cap before the resigning of the Cat and Strome and such, and take the 9th draft slot, I dunno...do you move out THAT far?
(we are so fortunate with winning this lottery!)
Now, if the hawks are happy with whomever is left, dropping maybe to king's slot, you make that trade but I doubt the hawks or any team look at the draft that way...but do the kings have any left hander save Forbert you want?

He’s still only 22...for a few more days anyway. Like D-men, power forward types often take longer to figure things out at the top level. I’m skeptical that he ever puts it all together consistently, but he has things (size and speed) that can’t be taught, so I’d prefer to take a longer look before letting him walk.
- Ogilthorpe2

Been his MO going back to junior days and 3 years as a pro. If they sign him for a 1M or less, then fine. Anything over that is an overpay. If his effort level was consistent then I would be fine with growing pains. His problem is when he isn't scoring, he is pretty useless and how many times does the same message need to be sent. If he figures it out, great. I hope he does. He does talent and not just a little.

I also wouldn't call him a power forward but that is just me.

Disclaimer: I'm not very good at judging the "fairness" of trades to both sides.

I wonder if a trade using the #3 pick and possibly other assets, if needed, would land the Hawks Hampus Lindholm from Anaheim or Matias Ekholm from Nashville. Thoughts?
- EbonyRaptor

No i would want more they that for the 3rd overall maybe linholm and Anaheim first still i keep the pick and take one of the centers dach cozens or turcotte. So by constables. Cozens=toews dach= getzalap turcott=Larkin no matter what hawks get a good center.

Ekholm is probably an untouchable.

And as much as Bob "never an NHL coach before" Murray's ploy to "coach' watching the assistants to tank didn't work, and they didn't get the tanking prize they expected,
I am not sure he is gutting his defense to move up. If you want to throw in Murphy and raise the Blackhawk Cap before the resigning of the Cat and Strome and such, and take the 9th draft slot, I dunno...do you move out THAT far?
(we are so fortunate with winning this lottery!)
Now, if the hawks are happy with whomever is left, dropping maybe to king's slot, you make that trade but I doubt the hawks or any team look at the draft that way...but do the kings have any left hander save Forbert you want?
- wiz1901

Martinez but he doesn't fit the age timeless.

The Hawks are in a rebuild. Its not the time to be giving away D prospects and young players on their ELC. Perlini doesn't have much value is my guess. 4th round pick or so. Their scoring wasn't an issue. An improved PK and some guys who can play a shutdown role with Kampf puts this team in the mix next season.
- Elbows15

My true point was not to start dismissing each and every young defender and forward, only that you might just find A TEAM, that is willing to hand over a young veteran left handed defender for ONE of our defenseman who there will be no room for along with a forward who might entice the deal, because the new drafted #3 pick is gonna be filling one, and there is a need to get a nice sized young vet backliner.

Looks like Tampa finally rolled up their sleeves and are prepared to work.

Been his MO going back to junior days and 3 years as a pro. If they sign him for a 1M or less, then fine. Anything over that is an overpay. If his effort level was consistent then I would be fine with growing pains. His problem is when he isn't scoring, he is pretty useless and how many times does the same message need to be sent. If he figures it out, great. I hope he does. He does talent and not just a little.

I also wouldn't call him a power forward but that is just me.
- Elbows15

He has the size to be one, and if he’s gonna have a long profitable career he should embrace the role.

He’s still only 22...for a few more days anyway. Like D-men, power forward types often take longer to figure things out at the top level. I’m skeptical that he ever puts it all together consistently, but he has things (size and speed) that can’t be taught, so I’d prefer to take a longer look before letting him walk.
- Ogilthorpe2

and he always had displayed a nice shot too.

Believe me, not looking to wholesale the cache of youth here, just find a shirt term solution at LD.

Ekholm is probably an untouchable.

And as much as Bob "never an NHL coach before" Murray's ploy to "coach' watching the assistants to tank didn't work, and they didn't get the tanking prize they expected,
I am not sure he is gutting his defense to move up. If you want to throw in Murphy and raise the Blackhawk Cap before the resigning of the Cat and Strome and such, and take the 9th draft slot, I dunno...do you move out THAT far?
(we are so fortunate with winning this lottery!)
Now, if the hawks are happy with whomever is left, dropping maybe to king's slot, you make that trade but I doubt the hawks or any team look at the draft that way...but do the kings have any left hander save Forbert you want?
- wiz1901

Nashville traded Seth Jones a couple years ago and they would still have Josi, Subban and Ryan but you're probably correct that they wouldn't trade Ekholm for "only" the #3 pick. The Preds are in "win now" mode where they weren't there yet when they made the Jones/Johansen trade.

But, Anaheim is definitely in a rebuild mode. Their top two centers need to be replaced - Kesler immediately and Getzlaf within a few years. They may look at getting a Cozens or Turcotte worth losing Lindholm - add pieces as needed from either or both sides. The question I have is whether Lindholm is a true #1 guy that can anchor a d-corps. I'd feel pretty confident that Ekholm could be that guy but I'm not as confident that Lindholm is a true #1 guy or just a pretty good #3 guy.

The 2010 team could match up and play pretty much any style. The other teams were better than everyone skillwise and almost all the players cou;ld play through physical play. Unlike Toronto who have too many players unwilling to take hits to make plays.
- paulr

i didnt watch much Hawk hockey before 2008...took a bit of a break ....we all know why...anyways...i remember the opening game(s) of 2010 and the Hawks opened across the pond if i recall..Well, Pat Foley pointed out that if you wanted to play a banging game, bring it on, Hawks are game. If you want to play a speed game, bring it on, Hawks are game. That team could play any style and excel....great memories!!

Hedman out tonight with injury...anyone know who is in for him?

I think the Hawks can fix that with a new skate sharpener.
- paulr

Or different blades: https://www.bladetechhockey.ca/

I think maybe embellishment needs to be called a bit more.

I think maybe embellishment needs to be called a bit more.
- Ogilthorpe2

It should be either the underlying penalty or embellishment - shouldn’t be both.

Hedman out tonight with injury...anyone know who is in for him?
- glennjpawlak22

So Hedman and Kucherov are both out? Wow - that's probably their 2 best players and they need to climb out of an 0-2 hole.

He’s still only 22...for a few more days anyway. Like D-men, power forward types often take longer to figure things out at the top level. I’m skeptical that he ever puts it all together consistently, but he has things (size and speed) that can’t be taught, so I’d prefer to take a longer look before letting him walk.
- Ogilthorpe2

Yep if he’s willing sign for one or two years at a buriable contract amount.

Or different blades: https://www.bladetechhockey.ca/
- walleyeb1

Everything about playing hockey is expensive.

Everything about playing hockey is expensive.
- StLBravesFan

So true!

So true!
- walleyeb1

Never been on skates, so I don't know.

I think maybe embellishment needs to be called a bit more.
- Ogilthorpe2

What I hate about it is that all the announcers call "great job at drawing a penalty". As long as the emphasis is on drawing penalties (and the zebras bit on it), Hockey will become more like soccer.

Another point for Mr. Duchene