I think 8-8.5 is a good number for Skinner but, the deal Stone signed has but Botterill in a bad spot. Like I said before, now Skinner's agent is playing hard ball, Skinner should have been locked up before the trade deadline.
- SABRES 89

His agent is being a real tough guy

His agent is being a real tough guy
- TheHank

I've heard about those kind of people, wow.

I was at home depot earlier today had my Sabres shirt and hat on, Blues fan was there and thanked me for ROR. I told him PISS OFF, he laughed.

Turris for Okposo ? just thinking out loud.

Turris for Okposo ? just thinking out loud.
- SABRES 89

Okposo for LTIR. My thought

The Sabres scored 16 more goals then the Stars did this year. Scored two less goals then the Isles. Both playoff teams. Interesting.

From last blog

Long but interested in thoughts...

Been doing some thinking with respect to Trading Risto.

One of the things that could work in the Sabres favor is the Lightning getting bounced in the playoffs especially with the way CBus is beating them in the physicality department...not like the Caps did last year, but clearly a stronger team taking it to the Lightning.

I could see their brass discussing the need for more truculence in the line-up...Risto's toughness would be desired. Tampa also could benefit from
-additional Cap space
-getting younger and cheaper by replacing the likes of aged players in
-Stralman (32,$4.5m, UFA),
-Girardi (34,$3.0m, UFA), and
-Colburn (33,$3.7m,UFA)
-Callahan, 33, $5.8m, 1 yr)

What do you think about Sabres trading
- Risto (24, 5/38/43, $5.4m, 3 yrs)
- Nelson (26, 1/5/6, $825k, UFA)
- ERod (22, 9/20/29, $650k, RFA
To Lightning for
-Anthony Cirelli (21, 19/20/39, $750k, 1 yr)
-Ryan Callahan (33, 7/10/17, $5.8m, 1 yr)
-Mathiue Joseph (21, 13/13/26, $750, 1yr)

Value to Lightning is
-getting rid of Callahan's contract
-replacing 2 aged Dmen with 2 RhD's...assuming Callahan and Risto's contracts are a wash, the 2 dmen enables them to walk away from 3 of those dmen and $11.2m with Cal Foote coming up soon
-adding toughness on the back end
-backfilling the loss of Cirelli with a capable 3C in ERod who plays with speed and can pot 15+

Sabres get
-A young, productive 2C in Cirelli
-A young, speedy winger in Joseph ready to breakout
- a serviceable 4th liner in Callahan for 1 season who is a locker room leader...a positive influence the team needs in a big way.

The Sabres scored 16 more goals then the Stars did this year. Scored two less goals then the Isles. Both playoff teams. Interesting.
- Pegullaville

No its not, both those teams had the fewest goals allowed, its not rocket science

From last blog

Long but interested in thoughts...

Been doing some thinking with respect to Trading Risto.

One of the things that could work in the Sabres favor is the Lightning getting bounced in the playoffs especially with the way CBus is beating them in the physicality department...not like the Caps did last year, but clearly a stronger team taking it to the Lightning.

I could see their brass discussing the need for more truculence in the line-up...Risto's toughness would be desired. Tampa also could benefit from
-additional Cap space
-getting younger and cheaper by replacing the likes of aged players in
-Stralman (32,$4.5m, UFA),
-Girardi (34,$3.0m, UFA), and
-Colburn (33,$3.7m,UFA)
-Callahan, 33, $5.8m, 1 yr)

What do you think about Sabres trading
- Risto (24, 5/38/43, $5.4m, 3 yrs)
- Nelson (26, 1/5/6, $825k, UFA)
- ERod (22, 9/20/29, $650k, RFA
To Lightning for
-Anthony Cirelli (21, 19/20/39, $750k, 1 yr)
-Ryan Callahan (33, 7/10/17, $5.8m, 1 yr)
-Mathiue Joseph (21, 13/13/26, $750, 1yr)

Value to Lightning is
-getting rid of Callahan's contract
-replacing 2 aged Dmen with 2 RhD's...assuming Callahan and Risto's contracts are a wash, the 2 dmen enables them to walk away from 3 of those dmen and $11.2m with Cal Foote coming up soon
-adding toughness on the back end
-backfilling the loss of Cirelli with a capable 3C in ERod who plays with speed and can pot 15+

Sabres get
-A young, productive 2C in Cirelli
-A young, speedy winger in Joseph ready to breakout
- a serviceable 4th liner in Callahan for 1 season who is a locker room leader...a positive influence the team needs in a big way.
- IonSabres

Risto for Johnson or
Risto for J.T Miller and Cernak/Foote

With Okposo being our 4th line plug I don’t think we’d want anything to do with Callahan.

No its not, both those teams had the fewest goals allowed, its not rocket science
- BeadyEyedDouche

Ok so as important as it is to find an established 2C, it’s just as important to find a goalie and a coach that has a structured defensive system. We aren’t going to outscore the big dogs. If we want to win we need to suffocate other teams.

Thanks for reading between the lines though and proving my point you douche

From last blog

Long but interested in thoughts...

Been doing some thinking with respect to Trading Risto.

One of the things that could work in the Sabres favor is the Lightning getting bounced in the playoffs especially with the way CBus is beating them in the physicality department...not like the Caps did last year, but clearly a stronger team taking it to the Lightning.

I could see their brass discussing the need for more truculence in the line-up...Risto's toughness would be desired. Tampa also could benefit from
-additional Cap space
-getting younger and cheaper by replacing the likes of aged players in
-Stralman (32,$4.5m, UFA),
-Girardi (34,$3.0m, UFA), and
-Colburn (33,$3.7m,UFA)
-Callahan, 33, $5.8m, 1 yr)

What do you think about Sabres trading
- Risto (24, 5/38/43, $5.4m, 3 yrs)
- Nelson (26, 1/5/6, $825k, UFA)
- ERod (22, 9/20/29, $650k, RFA
To Lightning for
-Anthony Cirelli (21, 19/20/39, $750k, 1 yr)
-Ryan Callahan (33, 7/10/17, $5.8m, 1 yr)
-Mathiue Joseph (21, 13/13/26, $750, 1yr)

Value to Lightning is
-getting rid of Callahan's contract
-replacing 2 aged Dmen with 2 RhD's...assuming Callahan and Risto's contracts are a wash, the 2 dmen enables them to walk away from 3 of those dmen and $11.2m with Cal Foote coming up soon
-adding toughness on the back end
-backfilling the loss of Cirelli with a capable 3C in ERod who plays with speed and can pot 15+

Sabres get
-A young, productive 2C in Cirelli
-A young, speedy winger in Joseph ready to breakout
- a serviceable 4th liner in Callahan for 1 season who is a locker room leader...a positive influence the team needs in a big way.
- IonSabres

The lynchpin of your proposal is the “young productive 2C”.

39 total points is not “productive” on the 2d line.

Risto for Johnson or
Risto for J.T Miller and Cernak/Foote

With Okposo being our 4th line plug I don’t think we’d want anything to do with Callahan.
- Pegullaville

If taking back Callahan enhances the return, do it as his contract ends after next season.

From last blog

Long but interested in thoughts...

Been doing some thinking with respect to Trading Risto.

One of the things that could work in the Sabres favor is the Lightning getting bounced in the playoffs especially with the way CBus is beating them in the physicality department...not like the Caps did last year, but clearly a stronger team taking it to the Lightning.

I could see their brass discussing the need for more truculence in the line-up...Risto's toughness would be desired. Tampa also could benefit from
-additional Cap space
-getting younger and cheaper by replacing the likes of aged players in
-Stralman (32,$4.5m, UFA),
-Girardi (34,$3.0m, UFA), and
-Colburn (33,$3.7m,UFA)
-Callahan, 33, $5.8m, 1 yr)

What do you think about Sabres trading
- Risto (24, 5/38/43, $5.4m, 3 yrs)
- Nelson (26, 1/5/6, $825k, UFA)
- ERod (22, 9/20/29, $650k, RFA
To Lightning for
-Anthony Cirelli (21, 19/20/39, $750k, 1 yr)
-Ryan Callahan (33, 7/10/17, $5.8m, 1 yr)
-Mathiue Joseph (21, 13/13/26, $750, 1yr)

Value to Lightning is
-getting rid of Callahan's contract
-replacing 2 aged Dmen with 2 RhD's...assuming Callahan and Risto's contracts are a wash, the 2 dmen enables them to walk away from 3 of those dmen and $11.2m with Cal Foote coming up soon
-adding toughness on the back end
-backfilling the loss of Cirelli with a capable 3C in ERod who plays with speed and can pot 15+

Sabres get
-A young, productive 2C in Cirelli
-A young, speedy winger in Joseph ready to breakout
- a serviceable 4th liner in Callahan for 1 season who is a locker room leader...a positive influence the team needs in a big way.
- IonSabres

Cirelli is not an upgrade to what we have, that deal does nothing for the Sabres. Why is that people keep bringing up Callahan ?

Okposo for LTIR. My thought
- TheHank

That won't happen.

I was at home depot earlier today had my Sabres shirt and hat on, Blues fan was there and thanked me for ROR. I told him PISS OFF, he laughed.
- SABRES 89

I went and bought a roll of insulation yesterday and paid for it all in rolled coins

that will teach them for forcing self check out

I went and bought a roll of insulation yesterday and paid for it all in rolled coins

that will teach them for forcing self check out
- homiedclown

“Hey Ref, check your voicemail! You’re missing a lot of calls!”

Cirelli is not an upgrade to what we have, that deal does nothing for the Sabres. Why is that people keep bringing up Callahan ?
- SABRES 89

My thought is
Cirelli is 21 and potted 19/20/39, which would have placed as the 4th best F on the team while the 3rd youngest. He will only get better. I would see him settle in as a 25/25-30 for 50+ points.
No bad at all.

Joseph is an up and comer. Speed to kill and plays a decently physical game. Not sure where he settles in but potted 13/13 in 70 games. So with more development maybe 20/25/45.

Both are already better than all the forwards save Skinner, Jack and Sam and should be very solid 3rd liners, maybe a 2nd liner.

Callahan's old but Tampa wouldn't give up these two without dumping salary. Ryan can help the 4th line, moreso in the locker room though.

Appreciate the feedback though

My thought is
Cirelli is 21 and potted 19/20/39, which would have placed as the 4th best F on the team while the 3rd youngest. He will only get better. I would see him settle in as a 25/25-30 for 50+ points.
No bad at all.

Joseph is an up and comer. Speed to kill and plays a decently physical game. Not sure where he settles in but potted 13/13 in 70 games. So with more development maybe 20/25/45.

Both are already better than all the forwards save Skinner, Jack and Sam and should be very solid 3rd liners, maybe a 2nd liner.

Callahan's old but Tampa wouldn't give up these two without dumping salary. Ryan can help the 4th line, moreso in the locker room though.

Appreciate the feedback though
- IonSabres

With TB’s cap issues why would they deal two young cost controlled scorers.

They’ll trade high paid scorers for picks and young talent first.

I read an interesting article on TSN about Mitch Marners performance is potentially pricing him out of a Leafs Jersey. The big contract for Nylander and Tavares adds weight to the story.
If this were somehow to come true, it would be nice to see him in the blue and gold.
- lulags

Marner is one hell of a player.

Cirelli is not an upgrade to what we have, that deal does nothing for the Sabres. Why is that people keep bringing up Callahan ?
- SABRES 89

No idea. We need to shed okposo, not add a Callahan.

Plus we just need a stop gap 2C For a year or two. If middlestat becomes who we hope he is and we draft a C this year we won’t neee four #2 centers.

How so?
- sbroads24

He's overpaid by about 15% and you can't have that when you have that many players to pay.

Eff the Leafs

FMcD

Suck it Beady

Fitz = Creep

for some reason, good teams or " certain" teams find ways to get it done. The Marner situation sounds like it may get tricky.
- SABRES 89

That's true, but Kucherov doesn't even take up 12% of Tampa's cap on his big deal next year. Toronto will likely have 3 players at around 14%. Tavares is 13.8%, Matthews is 14.63%, and Marner likely comes in right around there, maybe around 13% if they do some fancy footwork, but that could also come back to bite them on the ass if they don't lock him up.

My thought is
Cirelli is 21 and potted 19/20/39, which would have placed as the 4th best F on the team while the 3rd youngest. He will only get better. I would see him settle in as a 25/25-30 for 50+ points.
No bad at all.

Joseph is an up and comer. Speed to kill and plays a decently physical game. Not sure where he settles in but potted 13/13 in 70 games. So with more development maybe 20/25/45.

Both are already better than all the forwards save Skinner, Jack and Sam and should be very solid 3rd liners, maybe a 2nd liner.

Callahan's old but Tampa wouldn't give up these two without dumping salary. Ryan can help the 4th line, moreso in the locker room though.

Appreciate the feedback though
- IonSabres

I wasn't trying to be a d$ck, just my opinion. I just wanted you to know but I see what you are saying.

Cirelli is not an upgrade to what we have, that deal does nothing for the Sabres. Why is that people keep bringing up Callahan ?
- SABRES 89

89,
Seems like we have grown to disagree over these past few years!