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TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Apr 15 @ 12:36 PM ET
I'm with you on that. I have a #23 jersey in my closet.
- SabreWest

Lebron James?
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Apr 15 @ 12:43 PM ET
I also think that there will be PLENTY of opportunity for JBotts to snag some really good players on teams that are really up against the cap for next year.

Pittsburgh
Toronto
Las Vegas
Florida (if they intend on signing Bread Man.. )

these teams are all up against the cap and need to sign Key RFA's for big money. they will all have to shed salary of which we have a good amount of.

i think if we lose out on Skinner we can replace his production... I really like Skinner too...

- hehateme

FL moved Bjugstad along with McCann to free up room. They have some deals expiring and will get rid of Reimer's contract somehow. They may be able to make it work without having to trade Hoffman, idk. If Pitt is up against cap, Sabres should see about McCann. I think he's RFA after the Pens lose 1 more to NYI. He's improved since coming to FL, was even used killing penalties. I think he still has more ceiling. Not sure what his cap hit is, or how much of a raise he will get, but McCann could definitely help Buffalo's middle six.
Bjugstad was the whipping boy for many in FL, opinions vary widely on him. Even his fans would agree that Nick is overpaid, but he might be worth a look from Buffalo.

Oh, I forgot to add; Pysyk might be available
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 15 @ 12:44 PM ET
if skinner was hanging out with the boys at the masters yesterday, very good sign he stays

if he wanted out, there is no chance he is going to that event with teammates

- homiedclown



TIGER MOTHER FRANKING WOODS!!!!

That is all
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Apr 15 @ 12:46 PM ET
I'm with you on that. I have a #23 jersey in my closet.
- SabreWest


Well done. Wear it proudly.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 15 @ 12:46 PM ET
Want to know what I think of Skinner??

Honestly...If he wants 8 years, Im not going over 8m. Id even give him 9m over 5 or 6 years..

one of the other.

8y - 64m
or

6y - 54m

Take one or leave them...

- RippedFuel


This is pretty spot on actually

This has been your best post IMO on the Skinner situation!

If he wants the full 8 years he doesn't get more than $8 million per year

If he wants more money he gets less years.

I like it
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Apr 15 @ 1:00 PM ET
TIGER MOTHER FRANKING WOODS!!!!

That is all

- Stripes77

Bethpage and pebble up next
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 15 @ 1:03 PM ET
Bethpage and pebble up next
- TheHank



The story writes itself

I am not sure Bethpage plays to his strength anymore with his tee shots but man does he sure know how to navigate Pebble Beach...
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 15 @ 1:05 PM ET
TIGER MOTHER FRANKING WOODS!!!!

That is all

- Stripes77


Didn’t take you as a jordyn fan
kritter65
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2009

Apr 15 @ 1:10 PM ET
I'm all about fun and new. Don't get me wrong. But no one knows how any of these candidates will actually perform. Just find me a guy that fit Botterill's conditions. DGAF who it is.
- TheSabresTaco


Do we want to go with with Botterill's vision though ? This is a guy that traded a very good player for Sobotka, Berglund, and Tage. Montour trade aside, I can't forgive the idiocy of the ROR trade.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 15 @ 1:13 PM ET
Do we want to go with with Botterill's vision though ? This is a guy that traded a very good player for Sobotka, Berglund, and Tage. Montour trade aside, I can't forgive the idiocy of the ROR trade.
- kritter65


Waits for people to say terry moved ROR
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Apr 15 @ 1:15 PM ET
Waits for people to say terry moved ROR
- gerbe75pts

Waits for people to say ror moved ror
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 15 @ 1:22 PM ET
Didn’t take you as a jordyn fan
- gerbe75pts


Tiger is the reason there are the Speiths, the Fowlers, and so on

Tiger Woods is the most polarizing athlete of the last 2 decades. He made golf cool.

I don't know if he will break Jack's record of 18 majors, but if last weekend was any indication, he still has another 2-3 years of being the player who he once was.

Say what you want about his personal life, but to go through all the back surgeries and be able to play golf at that kind of level...it was great to see and it was must see TV, at least for me anyway.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Apr 15 @ 1:23 PM ET
Tiger is the reason there are the Speiths, the Fowlers, and so on

Tiger Woods is the most polarizing athlete of the last 2 decades. He made golf cool.

I don't know if he will break Jack's record of 18 majors, but if last weekend was any indication, he still has another 2-3 years of being the player who he once was.

Say what you want about his personal life, but to go through all the back surgeries and be able to play golf at that kind of level...it was great to see and it was must see TV, at least for me anyway.

- Stripes77

Well put. Same here
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 15 @ 1:23 PM ET
Do we want to go with with Botterill's vision though ? This is a guy that traded a very good player for Sobotka, Berglund, and Tage. Montour trade aside, I can't forgive the idiocy of the ROR trade.
- kritter65


"We’re open to anything,” Botterill replied. “You’re certainly looking for someone who has command of the room… that presence in the room. We have skill. We need to continue to develop that within our organization, bring some more in. We want to play a fast, uptempo style. We want to get our defencemen up in the play…. But it’s, as much as we want to play that offensive game, it’s having a little more structure defensively. That’s a big area where we can have improvement there.”

He added the internal debate is not about experience.

“We’re looking at someone who has that communicative ability, has that accountability, has that presence. That’s why we’re going to be looking at all different options.”

It's a solid vision I think we can all agree with, ROR trade aside. Not just "I'm looking for a drunk maniac. Hockey experience not required."
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 15 @ 1:26 PM ET
Well put. Same here
- TheHank



I was at Monday's practice round, it was incredible.

Only caught a glimpse of Tiger on the range but all of the tournament people I talked to said there was something about how he was practicing and hitting the ball, it was almost like they knew he was going to win it.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 15 @ 1:27 PM ET
Do we want to go with with Botterill's vision though ? This is a guy that traded a very good player for Sobotka, Berglund, and Tage. Montour trade aside, I can't forgive the idiocy of the ROR trade.
- kritter65


He stated publicly a bunch of traits he wants in a coach. They're all common sense. He's learned what not to get after seeing Housley work.

You have to agree the ROR trade was made under extenuating circumstances. The return has been underwhelming at best. Sobotka was always a clear throwin, and Berglund was expected to be protection for CM and along the course of his contract, a 3C. That bombed out. In hindsight, TT was hardly a surprise based on his past work. Still perplexes me how he wasn't sent down in November. Then there's 2 picks.

Clearly there was a problem with team dynamics coupled with his contract. So be it. The Sheary and Skinner trades were steals..

So yes, for now, we don't have a choice than to go with Bott's vision, but there isn't enough material, nor has there been enough time, to really make a judgement on his work. All I know is that this summer needs to be yuge for him.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 15 @ 1:28 PM ET
Waits for people to say terry moved ROR
- gerbe75pts


Kim moved him, not Terry.
richc111
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 02.13.2016

Apr 15 @ 1:29 PM ET
I hope they resign him to be honest I don't care what they pay. not like my tickets will go down in price and where you going to find a 30+ goal scorer who ain't gonna cost you an arm and a leg. After watching him play he never quit and his drought was more of puck unluck. He hit posts and had just misses but that will happen to a real goal scorer. Not like he was hitting to goalie in the chest like half this team does.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 15 @ 1:30 PM ET
"We’re open to anything,” Botterill replied. “You’re certainly looking for someone who has command of the room… that presence in the room. We have skill. We need to continue to develop that within our organization, bring some more in. We want to play a fast, uptempo style. We want to get our defencemen up in the play…. But it’s, as much as we want to play that offensive game, it’s having a little more structure defensively. That’s a big area where we can have improvement there.”

He added the internal debate is not about experience.

“We’re looking at someone who has that communicative ability, has that accountability, has that presence. That’s why we’re going to be looking at all different options.”

It's a solid vision I think we can all agree with, ROR trade aside. Not just "I'm looking for a drunk maniac. Hockey experience not required."

- jcragcrumple


ata boy
kritter65
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2009

Apr 15 @ 1:31 PM ET
He stated publicly a bunch of traits he wants in a coach. They're all common sense. He's learned what not to get after seeing Housley work.

You have to agree the ROR trade was made under extenuating circumstances. The return has been underwhelming at best. Sobotka was always a clear throwin, and Berglund was expected to be protection for CM and along the course of his contract, a 3C. That bombed out. In hindsight, TT was hardly a surprise based on his past work. Still perplexes me how he wasn't sent down in November. Then there's 2 picks.

Clearly there was a problem with team dynamics coupled with his contract. So be it. The Sheary and Skinner trades were steals..

So yes, for now, we don't have a choice than to go with Bott's vision, but there isn't enough material, nor has there been enough time, to really make a judgement on his work. All I know is that this summer needs to be yuge for him.

- TheSabresTaco


Very well said. Except I disagree on Sheary - He's nothing to me. Just a guy in the league.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 15 @ 1:31 PM ET
I hope they resign him to be honest I don't care what they pay. not like my tickets will go down in price and where you going to find a 30+ goal scorer who ain't gonna cost you an arm and a leg. After watching him play he never quit and his drought was more of puck unluck. He hit posts and had just misses but that will happen to a real goal scorer. Not like he was hitting to goalie in the chest like half this team does.
- richc111


Just don't (frank) up the cap. He won't reasonably be able to, and he won't ever get paid more than Jack, or Mark Stone for that matter. Like JCrag I think said, I'll get rid of a Zemgus to fit him in.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Apr 15 @ 1:35 PM ET
Very well said. Except I disagree on Sheary - He's nothing to me. Just a guy in the league.
- kritter65


I think it's more about what we gave up for him vs him being a superstar.

14g20a for a 4th rounder is a good deal for us.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 15 @ 1:36 PM ET
Very well said. Except I disagree on Sheary - He's nothing to me. Just a guy in the league.
- kritter65


He's no barn burner, but he's a middle 6 depth player who provides some nice modern NHL elements to his game, and is capable of 50 points. With better center depth, I don't think 40-50 should be a problem for him. This is a guy who was worth a 4th round pick with a 2.2M, 2 yr cap dump, with 1 year of forced rostering.

The depth at the LW position was nil. He served a nice, very cheap fill in. Remember, the condition of the pick was a 3rd if he hit 20g/40pts. This was essentially his expectations, and he hit 34, which isn't too far off.

You're right, he is 'just a guy', but his services came dirt floor cheap.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Apr 15 @ 1:37 PM ET
Tiger is the reason there are the Speiths, the Fowlers, and so on

Tiger Woods is the most polarizing athlete of the last 2 decades. He made golf cool.

I don't know if he will break Jack's record of 18 majors, but if last weekend was any indication, he still has another 2-3 years of being the player who he once was.

Say what you want about his personal life, but to go through all the back surgeries and be able to play golf at that kind of level...it was great to see and it was must see TV, at least for me anyway.

- Stripes77



2 of my good friends were there Sunday. They watched him at 16... said there is nothing like it. Golf with Tiger is just better.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Apr 15 @ 1:38 PM ET
2 of my good friends were there Sunday. They watched him at 16... said there is nothing like it. Golf with Tiger is just better.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo


You're right but I just don't like it.

I don't like the Yankees or the Cowboys either. Its kinda the same.
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