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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 17 @ 1:30 AM ET
Wonder what odds you would get for Vegas v Columbus final.
- 1970vintage

Analytics aside, Gallant and Torts are two of the best motivators in the NHL
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 17 @ 1:31 AM ET
Nobody is suggesting trading Petey, or Horvat or Boeser or Hughes or Demko. Edler is a UFA and I don’t agree. I don’t think you would get even a 3rd for any of the rest of that trash on your list.
- 1970vintage

Fighting a losing battle lol
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 17 @ 1:31 AM ET
Nobody is suggesting trading Petey, or Horvat or Boeser or Hughes or Demko. Edler is a UFA and I don’t agree. I don’t think you would get even a 3rd for any of the rest of that trash on your list.
- 1970vintage


belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 17 @ 1:33 AM ET
Analytics aside, Gallant and Torts are two of the best motivators in the NHL
- Nucker101


They're 10 feet tall.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 17 @ 1:37 AM ET
Thought he was part of the new “core”
- 1970vintage

He is but if you want another 2nd or 3rd he's probably the cost.

Any player we are willing to trade is not bringing us a 2nd let alone a 3rd
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 17 @ 1:39 AM ET
He is but if you want another 2nd or 3rd he's probably the cost.

Any player we are willing to trade is not bringing us a 2nd let alone a 3rd

- A_SteamingLombardi


Sutter

Edmonton Arizona Buffalo NJD
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 17 @ 1:52 AM ET
7 x 6,080,000 and see what happens? Give up a first and 3rd for Connor.
- canucksfan1944


The contract offer can be higher. That price was at the 2018 cap ceiling. Yes do it.

Projected at 6.3m for a 1st & 3rd
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 17 @ 1:53 AM ET
Sutter

Edmonton Arizona Buffalo NJD

- Nighthawk

I'm pretty sure all those teams are on his no trade list.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 17 @ 1:59 AM ET
I'm pretty sure all those teams are on his no trade list.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Which 15 are not?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 17 @ 2:02 AM ET
Which 15 are not?
- Nighthawk

The ones not giving us a 3rd for him. With his cap hit and injury history I don't see any team taking him.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Apr 17 @ 2:11 AM ET
He is but if you want another 2nd or 3rd he's probably the cost.

Any player we are willing to trade is not bringing us a 2nd let alone a 3rd

- A_SteamingLombardi


This really was my point.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Apr 17 @ 2:13 AM ET
The ones not giving us a 3rd for him. With his cap hit and injury history I don't see any team taking him.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Maybe if we throw in Goldobin, Granlund and Palmu we could get a 3rd
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Apr 17 @ 2:16 AM ET
Analytics aside, Gallant and Torts are two of the best motivators in the NHL
- Nucker101


I couldn’t watch tonight because I don’t get SN360 but the Knights are so agressive, and they make you pay for every single mistake. Fun to watch. Still remember several people who wouldn’t have traded player for player with Vegas before a game had been played. I bet it’s 10 years before the Canucks finish higher than the Knights.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 17 @ 8:13 AM ET
Analytics aside, Gallant and Torts are two of the best motivators in the NHL
- Nucker101

lol why didn't it work here then?

NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Apr 17 @ 8:48 AM ET
lol why didn't it work here then?
- LordHumungous


How you feeling about San Jose now?

Don’t think Tortz worked here because he was never actually in Vancouver nah, wrong team at the wrong time. Tortz needs a vet heavy team to push over the top, he’s not going to mold a group of young guys or be able to whip up a team that’s trending down
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 17 @ 8:58 AM ET
lol why didn't it work here then?
- LordHumungous

Because Torts said he wasn't into it here.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 17 @ 9:12 AM ET
lol why didn't it work here then?
- LordHumungous



Too many puss1es and he couldn't get a membership to the Country Club

You knew it never had a chance when Bieksa said we don't need a coach to come in here and show us what to do.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 17 @ 9:19 AM ET
Too many puss1es and he couldn't get a membership to the Country Club

You knew it never had a chance when Bieksa said we don't need a coach to come in here and show us what to do.

- VANTEL

All true...but Torts sure didn't help his own cause here. Chose to live in Point Roberts instead of Van...never showed up to run practises so on and so forth. I get the whole Country Club atmosphere but the players sure didn't get any message from Torts that he was dedicated so tough for the players to go to battle for him. Plus strong arm coaching tactics don't work everywhere.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 17 @ 9:20 AM ET
Too many puss1es and he couldn't get a membership to the Country Club

You knew it never had a chance when Bieksa said we don't need a coach to come in here and show us what to do.

- VANTEL

It was because he admitted taking the job when his mind was not into it and then he actually never ran a practice or talk to the players.
I know that facts are awkward.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 17 @ 9:21 AM ET
How you feeling about San Jose now?

Don’t think Tortz worked here because he was never actually in Vancouver nah, wrong team at the wrong time. Tortz needs a vet heavy team to push over the top, he’s not going to mold a group of young guys or be able to whip up a team that’s trending down

- NewYorkNuck

lol I might be off to my worst 1st round predictions in history. SJ, PIT TBAY, CGY hell TO might even beat BOS.

Go Jets!
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 17 @ 9:23 AM ET
It was because he admitted taking the job when his mind was not into it and then he actually never ran a practice or talk to the players.
I know that facts are awkward.

- Marwood

He spent to much time driving back and forth to Pt. Roberts.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 17 @ 9:23 AM ET
All true...but Torts sure didn't help his own cause here. Chose to live in Point Roberts instead of Van...never showed up to run practises so on and so forth. I get the whole Country Club atmosphere but the players sure didn't get any message from Torts that he was dedicated so tough for the players to go to battle for him. Plus strong arm coaching tactics don't work everywhere.
- LordHumungous



He probably realized he wasn't running the team.

He took NYR and TB to the SCF and dragged CBJ from the hallows of hell to sweeping the best team in hockey. I will leave his credentials alone. I understand why others don't like him.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 17 @ 9:32 AM ET
It was because he admitted taking the job when his mind was not into it and then he actually never ran a practice or talk to the players.
I know that facts are awkward.

- Marwood



Bieksa made his comments before Tortz was hired.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 17 @ 9:36 AM ET
First team in NHL history to win the Presidents Trophy and be swept in the first round, did not see that coming. They were just being outworked by a team that wanted it more, or, understood, somehow, what it was gonna take to get it done.

I picked the Islanders to beat the Pens in my bracket though
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 17 @ 9:37 AM ET
Bieksa made his comments before Tortz was hired.
- VANTEL

Bieska was an idiot. Torts couldn't penetrate the country club because he wasn't physically here and he didn't really care.
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