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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 17 @ 8:17 PM ET
Ian MacIntyre said the other day, against popular opinion Sutter does have trade value , and Canucks do get asked about him quite often.

Benning said about a month ago he believes Canucks are a playoff team with a healthy Sutter.

- VANTEL


What value has he heard?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 17 @ 8:17 PM ET
The good thing is that I don't care.
- Marwood

You really are a casual fan.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 17 @ 8:17 PM ET
You do post about hockey SOMEtimes. The main thing that I think people may find irritating is that you can be very responsive in your comments without providing ideas of your own.

It just comes off as inflammatory sometimes when you only tell others they are wrong and openly brag about not providing your own ideas.

- NorthNuck

I gave you my own idea. I said don't trade to fill holes and continue to draft & develop. You chose to dismiss that.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 17 @ 8:18 PM ET
He just can’t put together a consistent season; regardless of the excuse. If a GM or coach can’t rely on that player to have a consistent role on the team, why trade for him?
- bloatedmosquito


A lot of people wearing Canucks hats have had trouble putting together a consistent season . They usually continue their success after they leave.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 17 @ 8:18 PM ET
Why do you come here and sh*t on every one's ideas?
- Marwood


Because I’m not pooping on anything. I mean it, no (frank)ing trades.

I don’t trust this organization’s pro scouting evaluations. Secondly, JB’s not a strong negotiator, whether with other GMs or player agents.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 17 @ 8:19 PM ET
Neither worked out so move Sutter out.
I agree on JB but he is getting better.

- Nighthawk

I think Aquilini took back the cheque book.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Apr 17 @ 8:19 PM ET
The good thing is that I don't care.
- Marwood

You may not, mods tend to on forum sites. Looks like you've found yourself a nice balance of posting on-topic just often enough to avoid getting banned a lot more often
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 17 @ 8:19 PM ET
You really are a casual fan.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I'm f*cking sick of emo, PC millennials.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 17 @ 8:20 PM ET
I think Aquilini took back the cheque book.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Sure smells like it & that’s fine
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 17 @ 8:20 PM ET
What value has he heard?
- Nighthawk



They never say.

but

NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Apr 17 @ 8:20 PM ET
I gave you my own idea. I said don't trade to fill holes and continue to draft & develop. You chose to dismiss that.
- Marwood

That's not true, i responded with my reasoning for why i disagreed with what you said
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 17 @ 8:20 PM ET
You may not, mods tend to on forum sites. Looks like you've found yourself a nice balance of posting on-topic just often enough to avoid getting banned a lot more often
- NorthNuck

Did you tell on other students in class?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 17 @ 8:21 PM ET
Ian MacIntyre said the other day, against popular opinion Sutter does have trade value , and Canucks do get asked about him quite often.

Benning said about a month ago he believes Canucks are a playoff team with a healthy Sutter.

- VANTEL


Considering the source, I’m a bit sceptical.

I 100% believe Sutter has value but “asked often” sounds like an outdated report, I could believe that last summer but not now.


Unless it’s a bunch of GM’s just seeing if they can get him cheap or for a similar Pearson-Gudbranson deal
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 17 @ 8:21 PM ET
A lot of people wearing Canucks hats have had trouble putting together a consistent season . They usually continue their success after they leave.
- VANTEL


I’m not a conspiracy theorists, but I think that’s true. Somebody needs to look into that.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Apr 17 @ 8:21 PM ET
Did you tell on other students in class?
- Marwood

I never went to class
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 17 @ 8:22 PM ET
I never went to class
- NorthNuck

It shows.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 17 @ 8:22 PM ET
On Risto its universal he can put up points & knocked for D. RHD are in demand & don’t come cheap if top 4. In the case of Buffalo i said they need more vets in key positions. 3C is one & a true shutdown D man to help them. Goal could be better.

Sabres need a hockey trade

- Nighthawk



It’s always better to get the other side’s perspective though, brings more credibility to a trade idea.

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 17 @ 8:22 PM ET
You really are a casual fan.
- A_SteamingLombardi


You’re on fire tonight. What’s in the pizza?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 17 @ 8:23 PM ET
They never say.

but


- VANTEL

Manufactured Canuck news.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Apr 17 @ 8:24 PM ET
It shows.
- Marwood

You know what's a big sign of lacking intelligence? Generalizing people into boxes so that you can keep your uneducated opinions about them straight
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 17 @ 8:24 PM ET
Because I’m not pooping on anything. I mean it, no (frank)ing trades.

I don’t trust this organization’s pro scouting evaluations. Secondly, JB’s not a strong negotiator, whether with other GMs or player agents.

- bloatedmosquito



The most successful teams lately are teams that are active with trades.

Mtl StL Car Cgy Ari Chi were the most active last summer

CBJ WpG VGK at TDL

I don't want to only use the draft to build.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 17 @ 8:25 PM ET
Considering the source, I’m a bit sceptical.

I 100% believe Sutter has value but “asked often” sounds like an outdated report, I could believe that last summer but not now.


Unless it’s a bunch of GM’s just seeing if they can get him cheap or for a similar Pearson-Gudbranson deal

- Nucker101


The offseason will be the easiest & best time to move Sutter. I cannot understand how JB can say or think Sutter makes us a PO team. Starting with that means Gaudette has to go to Utica or 2-3 other players don’t belong here.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 17 @ 8:25 PM ET
You’re on fire tonight. What’s in the pizza?
- bloatedmosquito

No pizza, miso soup with sardines packed on soy oil, so I'm probably light headed from hunger.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 17 @ 8:25 PM ET
A lot of people wearing Canucks hats have had trouble putting together a consistent season . They usually continue their success after they leave.
- VANTEL


That’s because the team isn’t good so not sure how that’s some shocking revelation

When the team was good, guys like Ehrhoff struggled when leaving for inferior teams.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Apr 17 @ 8:26 PM ET
The most successful teams lately are teams that are active with trades.

Mtl StL Car Cgy Ari Chi were the most active last summer

CBJ WpG VGK at TDL

I don't want to only use the draft to build.

- VANTEL

I've heard that making trades can ruin rebuilds
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