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onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Apr 16 @ 8:44 PM ET
nice goal by Point
CLB scores right back , gotta love elimination games
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 16 @ 8:48 PM ET
I never said spend to the cap.
How did you derive that from my posts?

- Nighthawk


I pointed out that signing Panarin puts you dangerously close to the cap, if signed at 9.5 and all the others got the conservative # I used.
With what some may get signing Panarin at that price could put the team over the cap.
As I said, I want the buffer because of the Luongo situation.
So, a team that is in the middle of the pack, of non-playoff teams would be at or over the cap limit.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 16 @ 8:49 PM ET
Of the 30m cap space next year...

Boeser 6/7m
Edler 2/6m
Panarin 7/9.5m maybe 10m

Edler will be a year by year situation afterwards. EP & Hughes will then be up for big deals. The cap will be about $90+m by then. Most other contracts are off the books & who is extended or signed will be crucial. Therein lies the meat of handling the cap.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 16 @ 8:50 PM ET
I pointed out that signing Panarin puts you dangerously close to the cap, if signed at 9.5 and all the others got the conservative # I used.
With what some may get signing Panarin at that price could put the team over the cap.
As I said, I want the buffer because of the Luongo situation.
So, a team that is in the middle of the pack, of non-playoff teams would be at or over the cap limit.

- Reubenkincade


I agree a buffer for a possible Lui retirement is prudent but i fully expect LTIR will occur for him.
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Apr 16 @ 8:51 PM ET
I pointed out that signing Panarin puts you dangerously close to the cap, if signed at 9.5 and all the others got the conservative # I used.
With what some may get signing Panarin at that price could put the team over the cap.
As I said, I want the buffer because of the Luongo situation.
So, a team that is in the middle of the pack, of non-playoff teams would be at or over the cap limit.

- Reubenkincade

Lugongo has legit hip issues and wants to play still , i would be shocked if we ever get a re-capture penalty, if we could get away from the LE contract it would give some more flexability.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 16 @ 8:53 PM ET
well shoot...there goes the dream
- onesmallleap

I don't know much about his coaching style but I am liking TG and his learning. He wants to be hard to play against and that's playoff hockey.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 16 @ 8:57 PM ET
Of the 30m cap space next year...

Boeser 6/7m
Edler 2/6m
Panarin 7/9.5m maybe 10m

Edler will be a year by year situation afterwards. EP & Hughes will then be up for big deals. The cap will be about $90+m by then. Most other contracts are off the books & who is extended or signed will be crucial. Therein lies the meat of handling the cap.

- Nighthawk


What does Leivo, Demko, Schenn and Rafferty sign For?
Nevermind the other free Agents, but those 4 will get re-signed.
Leaves about 3 million, hope to (frank) Luongo doesn't retire or some team doesn't make a cap dump offer any time soon.
You are being closeminded and impatient.
Also, not sure if you have been watching any of the playoffs, but I doubt very much that the Canucks are anywhere close to be competing with any of these guys in the playoffs.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 16 @ 9:02 PM ET
Lugongo has legit hip issues and wants to play still , i would be shocked if we ever get a re-capture penalty, if we could get away from the LE contract it would give some more flexability.
- onesmallleap


I believe he will be placed on LTIR as well. Until he has been put on it for all 3 seasons remaining, the possibility still exists that the recapture penalty can be applied.

Also, the Luongo situation isn't really the point of the discussion, the point is, why would anyone want their team to be dangerously close to the cap, when you are years away from being a contender?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 16 @ 9:05 PM ET
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 16 @ 9:05 PM ET
What does Leivo, Demko, Schenn and Rafferty sign For?
Nevermind the other free Agents, but those 4 will get re-signed.
Leaves about 3 million, hope to (frank) Luongo doesn't retire or some team doesn't make a cap dump offer any time soon.
You are being closeminded and impatient.
Also, not sure if you have been watching any of the playoffs, but I doubt very much that the Canucks are anywhere close to be competing with any of these guys in the playoffs.

- Reubenkincade


All for minimum raises.
What about who gets traded?

Making the PO’s & competing are not the same. Look at TB & Pitt.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 16 @ 9:06 PM ET
I believe he will be placed on LTIR as well. Until he has been put on it for all 3 seasons remaining, the possibility still exists that the recapture penalty can be applied.

Also, the Luongo situation isn't really the point of the discussion, the point is, why would anyone want their team to be dangerously close to the cap, when you are years away from being a contender?

- Reubenkincade


I know right? In what world would a bottom seed team stand up to power houses like Tampa and the Pens.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 16 @ 9:07 PM ET

- A_SteamingLombardi


I think I am wasting my time.😀
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 16 @ 9:08 PM ET
On Panarin if we could sign him its a great add. If he won’t that’s fine. All i am getting at.
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Apr 16 @ 9:09 PM ET
I believe he will be placed on LTIR as well. Until he has been put on it for all 3 seasons remaining, the possibility still exists that the recapture penalty can be applied.

Also, the Luongo situation isn't really the point of the discussion, the point is, why would anyone want their team to be dangerously close to the cap, when you are years away from being a contender?

- Reubenkincade

the Blackhawks were an up and coming team yet to make the playoffs and they signed Hossa and Khabibulin and won a cup. Key players added at the right time change things fast
it cost them players later because of cap issues but it's all worth it for a cup
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 16 @ 9:13 PM ET
I know right? In what world would a bottom seed team stand up to power houses like Tampa and the Pens.

- boonerbuck


I know right the 5th and 15th lowest paid teams with actual quality throughout the lineup are able to knock off some powerhouses, yet we need to spend to the cap limit to even try make it in.
🤣
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 16 @ 9:13 PM ET
I think I am wasting my time.😀
- Reubenkincade

You must be psychic, at least I got a pizza made in the time you wasted.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 16 @ 9:14 PM ET
the Blackhawks were an up and coming team yet to make the playoffs and they signed Hossa and Khabibulin and won a cup. Key players added at the right time change things fast
it cost them players later because of cap issues but it's all worth it for a cup

- onesmallleap


Is Panarin fill a need & serious good piece?
Do we lose anything if not signed?
Anyone in the pipeline a top 6 winger?
Can we fit him in our cap longterm?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 16 @ 9:16 PM ET
I know right the 5th and 15th lowest paid teams with actual quality throughout the lineup are able to knock off some powerhouses, yet we need to spend to the cap limit to even try make it in.
🤣

- Reubenkincade


Show me this cap limit 23 player roster you perceive. I’ll produce mine in a bit.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 16 @ 9:17 PM ET
You must be psychic, at least I got a pizza made in the time you wasted.
- A_SteamingLombardi


👍
Thought you might have had some popcorn, as well.
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Apr 16 @ 9:20 PM ET
Is Panarin fill a need & serious good piece?
Do we lose anything if not signed?
Anyone in the pipeline a top 6 winger?
Can we fit him in our cap longterm?

- Nighthawk

i don't think we are a desirable city to Russians , but for only cap cost he could elevate EP and BB to another level , which would make the whole team better. A hot goalie and a dominate 1st line can win in the playoffs, and i would love to see the Nucks young guys take on a playoff team. if the plan is to wait 3-4 more years , then trade Horvat now for picks that will be developed in 3 yrs then
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Apr 16 @ 9:29 PM ET
i don't think we are a desirable city to Russians , but for only cap cost he could elevate EP and BB to another level , which would make the whole team better. A hot goalie and a dominate 1st line can win in the playoffs, and i would love to see the Nucks young guys take on a playoff team. if the plan is to wait 3-4 more years , then trade Horvat now for picks that will be developed in 3 yrs then
- onesmallleap

breadmaker is going to Flo Rida… he only wants to play for those guys. its pretty much penciled in already.

Nux need to look elsewhere...
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 16 @ 9:33 PM ET
Good advice.


Soooo, is Eberle a beast?

- CubanBuffet

2 Assists in 13 games when EDM made that run a few years back.

Oiler fans and media basically drove him out of town saying he'll never perform in the PO's.

lol
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Apr 16 @ 9:33 PM ET
CBJ just hanging on now, but to their credit keeping Tampa to the outside and stuck in the neutral zone!
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 16 @ 9:35 PM ET
https://www.capfriendly.c.../armchair-gm/edit/1120705

My 2019 cap team if we could sign Panarin
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 16 @ 9:35 PM ET
I didn't have time this year for a player pool,but I had Tampa eliminated on the 2nd round, in the team pick pool I am in.
I am going by the handle worstteamever, in the pool setup here.

- Reubenkincade

It looks like Columbus is my Cinderella team for the playoffs.
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