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rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Apr 17 @ 9:12 AM ET
Easy now. Not saying he won't be but it appears as though none of the players in this draft carry that tag coming in.
- JRR1285

McDavid level? No. But Patrick Kane/Laine level maybe
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Apr 17 @ 9:13 AM ET
Yeah, I listened to that moron live.

If I were management I would flip out. He needs to call his team out as well as himself. They straight up poop the bed, no other way to put it.

- JRR1285


Is it too hot a take now just to say he was never a good coach? I know we rag on AV here, but I don't remember any of AVs teams being that much of a no show and waving the white flag. There was that year we lost to the Pens in 5, but that was one buzzsaw of a team we ran into. I don't think I have ever seen a team that literally has no adjustments in them at all. If plan A doesn't work for them, there is no plan B.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Apr 17 @ 9:14 AM ET
Don't forget then we can try Names again at Center and have that all Ruskie line of Panarin-Names-Kravs.

Be kind of funny we draft Kakko #2 and he could potentially start his career on the 3rd line and actually be a justified decision.

- 2sticks1puck


One of the reasons I think Quinn was a great choice as coach. I think he really knows how to coach these younger players. I don't care for his 7 D system(Might actually be Ruff) sometimes, but overall I think he was the right choice for this time
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Apr 17 @ 9:15 AM ET
McDavid level? No. But Patrick Kane/Laine level maybe
- rangerdanger94


I thought you got abducted
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Apr 17 @ 9:16 AM ET
McDavid level? No. But Patrick Kane/Laine level maybe
- rangerdanger94



Sure. But that is more of an elite type, not generational.

Crosby, McDavid and Ovechkin. Those are your current generational talents. You could possibly even argue for Malkin (I have myself a few times).

Kucherov is looking like he might insert himself in that conversation if he maintains this level for an extended period.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Apr 17 @ 9:19 AM ET
Sure. But that is more of an elite type, not generational.

Crosby, McDavid and Ovechkin. Those are your current generational talents. You could possibly even argue for Malkin (I have myself a few times).

Kucherov is looking like he might insert himself in that conversation if he maintains this level for an extended period.

- JRR1285


The funny thing about Malkin is I'm pretty sure his stats went through the roof whenever Crosby went down. If he was "the guy" on a different team, he absolutely would be a generational talent. I think he unfairly gets lost sometimes because Crosby is always going to be tops.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Apr 17 @ 9:19 AM ET
Is it too hot a take now just to say he was never a good coach? I know we rag on AV here, but I don't remember any of AVs teams being that much of a no show and waving the white flag. There was that year we lost to the Pens in 5, but that was one buzzsaw of a team we ran into. I don't think I have ever seen a team that literally has no adjustments in them at all. If plan A doesn't work for them, there is no plan B.
- 2sticks1puck



I was thinking the same thing earlier. I am sure you will start to see that take coming out.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Apr 17 @ 9:20 AM ET
The funny thing about Malkin is I'm pretty sure his stats went through the roof whenever Crosby went down. If he was "the guy" on a different team, he absolutely would be a generational talent. I think he unfairly gets lost sometimes because Crosby is always going to be tops.
- mdw7413



That has been my rationale for when I argue in favor of him.

Man it would have been fun for another team to end up with him. Instead the damn Pens get a backup elite 1C for whenever Crosby goes down.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Apr 17 @ 9:24 AM ET
I thought you got abducted
- mdw7413

tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Apr 17 @ 9:24 AM ET
The KBZ line will not be kept together when they sign Panarin
- mdw7413

Are they trading that Line to the Panthers?
mdw7413
New York Rangers
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Joined: 12.13.2013

Apr 17 @ 9:24 AM ET
That has been my rationale for when I argue in favor of him.

Man it would have been fun for another team to end up with him. Instead the damn Pens get a backup elite 1C for whenever Crosby goes down.

- JRR1285


Yeah I was a tiny bit surprised that he didn't want to get out from Crosby's shadow. He seems like a player who wants to lead a team
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
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Apr 17 @ 9:25 AM ET
Are they trading that Line to the Panthers?
- tomburton99

Its early, so I'm not understanding this
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Apr 17 @ 9:26 AM ET
Yeah I was a tiny bit surprised that he didn't want to get out from Crosby's shadow. He seems like a player who wants to lead a team
- mdw7413



Maybe he just wanted to win, didn't care if he was the guy. That might speak to him lacking leadership skills etc. Could also have been the language barrier earlier in his career. Doesn't have to be the guy and constantly getting interviewed. I recall Jagr not liking the attention due to the language barrier.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 17 @ 9:28 AM ET
Its early, so I'm not understanding this
- mdw7413

He's implying Panarin will be playing for the Panthers next year
mdw7413
New York Rangers
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Apr 17 @ 9:30 AM ET
Maybe he just wanted to win, didn't care if he was the guy. That might speak to him lacking leadership skills etc. Could also have been the language barrier earlier in his career. Doesn't have to be the guy and constantly getting interviewed. I recall Jagr not liking the attention due to the language barrier.
- JRR1285


Don't know if you remember much about the 90's teams But Nemchinov never talked to the cameras. Dude was so shy and probably some of it was the language barrier. That just popped in my head for some reason
mdw7413
New York Rangers
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Apr 17 @ 9:31 AM ET
He's implying Panarin will be playing for the Panthers next year
- eichiefs9


I thought maybe Tom did an all night molly binge at a rave and thought Panarin played for the Cats or something
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Apr 17 @ 9:31 AM ET
Don't know if you remember much about the 90's teams But Nemchinov never talked to the cameras. Dude was so shy and probably some of it was the language barrier. That just popped in my head for some reason
- mdw7413



I don't recall watching a lot of the interviews during that time. I was kind of young and mainly just watched the games.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Apr 17 @ 9:32 AM ET
I thought maybe Tom did an all night molly binge at a rave and thought Panarin played for the Cats or something
- mdw7413



2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Apr 17 @ 9:33 AM ET
He's implying Panarin will be playing for the Panthers next year
- eichiefs9


Really think there isn't much chance of that. If they sign Bob for over 8 million, I'm not sure where the extra money is to sign him. You'd think he'd at least want to make more than Stone. I was pretty shocked when I looked at their capfriendly. I really thought they had more space that that.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
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Joined: 12.13.2013

Apr 17 @ 9:34 AM ET

- JRR1285

eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 17 @ 9:34 AM ET
I thought maybe Tom did an all night molly binge at a rave and thought Panarin played for the Cats or something
- mdw7413

Reasonable, I can see why anyone might assume that was the case
Rangers99
New York Rangers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.01.2015

Apr 17 @ 9:35 AM ET
Anyone else have the feeling that Columbus runs over either the Leafs or Boston next round? They seem to have that momentum going that can't be stopped, like the Kings in 2012
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Apr 17 @ 9:36 AM ET
Anyone else have the feeling that Columbus runs over either the Leafs or Boston next round? They seem to have that momentum going that can't be stopped, like the Kings in 2012
- Rangers99



I think their next round will be a different story. If they rattled of a string of wins to close out a long series and jumped right into the next one, maybe. But the time off will do them no favors.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Apr 17 @ 9:37 AM ET
Really think there isn't much chance of that. If they sign Bob for over 8 million, I'm not sure where the extra money is to sign him. You'd think he'd at least want to make more than Stone. I was pretty shocked when I looked at their capfriendly. I really thought they had more space that that.
- 2sticks1puck

His old coach just got hired there. Some of the most trusted hockey reports in the sport have linked him to the state of Florida and the whole tax thing is a factor. So...
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Apr 17 @ 9:38 AM ET
Anyone else have the feeling that Columbus runs over either the Leafs or Boston next round? They seem to have that momentum going that can't be stopped, like the Kings in 2012
- Rangers99


Could certainly happen. Torts has that team fired up. I was also wondering if Panarin changes his mind if they keep going.
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