Ohio is actually a fairly big hockey state. So let’s get beyond that. Columbus was the better team, and people there may finally get behind them there.

If there was a re-draft, I imagine Philly takes Pettersson over Patrick
- Codes1087

I'd imagine NJ takes him first

Thx Carol!

#bathsalts#shortcuts#offersheet
- CanuckDon

I'd imagine NJ takes him first
- NorthNuck

Without a doubt he’d go first overall in a do over.

I'd imagine NJ takes him first
- NorthNuck

Could make a case for Heiskanen over Nico as well. Patrick definitely falls behind all 3 of those guys.

Anybody see that alley-oop from Boldy trying to set up Caufield for #4?

I love both & can’t fathom either dropping to 10... but apparently the majority of mockers/rankers think one or both could
- DrChristianTroy

Hopefully a team or 2 reaches for a dman

Anybody see that alley-oop from Boldy trying to set up Caufield for #4?
- DrChristianTroy

Caufield is gonna steal the headlines from this game(not that he shouldn't), but Boldy's has made some beautiful plays. His creativity and skill

Could make a case for Heiskanen over Nico as well. Patrick definitely falls behind all 3 of those guys.
- Nucker101

It's funny how quickly this became the case. At the time of the lottery that year the feeling was whoever picked 2nd had a no-brainer on their hands

A lot of draft talk about player position and who should and shouldn't be picked at 10.
Got me thinking about the defensemen who played for the team this season and where they were picked. For players who played more than 10 games:

Gudbranson – 3rd
Schenn – 5th
Pouliot – 8th
Edler – 91st
Hutton – 147th
Biega – 147th
Tanev – Undrafted
Stecher – Undrafted
Sautner – Undrafted

Probably forgot someone or got position wrong. Either way, it raises interesting questions about drafting, position, and eventual NHL impact.

Apparently TB fans hate Seragchev, mainly because they think he's a terrible defender.

A lot of draft talk about player position and who should and shouldn't be picked at 10.
Got me thinking about the defensemen who played for the team this season and where they were picked. For players who played more than 10 games:

Gudbranson – 3rd
Schenn – 5th
Pouliot – 8th
Edler – 91st
Hutton – 147th
Biega – 147th
Tanev – Undrafted
Stecher – Undrafted
Sautner – Undrafted

Probably forgot someone or got position wrong. Either way, it raises interesting questions about drafting, position, and eventual NHL impact.
- bloatedmosquito

I see where you're going, and you're not wrong but...

You forgot Hughes

I see where you're going, and you're not wrong but...

You forgot Hughes
- NorthNuck

Somebody made me feel immature about still hating Boston, so just returning the favour.

I was just talking about players who played more than 10 games. We've had a few more who played less than 10. Doesn't really improve the optics.

But when you think about it, not sure why we female dog so much. We had 3 out of 6 Dmen on the roster who were picked in the top 10. That's awesome.

I see where you're going, and you're not wrong but...

You forgot Hughes
- NorthNuck

Did you read the part were he said players who have played more than 10 games?

I hope that wasn't too hurtful.

Apparently TB fans hate Seragchev, mainly because they think he's a terrible defender.
- Nucker101

And how much do we here in Canada think TB residents know about hockey?.....let alone heard of hockey

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Did you read the part were he said players who have played more than 10 games?

I hope that wasn't too hurtful.
- Marwood

Didn't mean to pee on the campfire but the draft is late June. That's what 60+ days of player discussion about who goes 10. From the mixed bag I've read, after the top 3 or 4, the first round will be a crapshoot.

Whatever happens at the draft, that's when the conversation in here will be legit... and hugely amusing.

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- A_SteamingLombardi

we complained long and hard for years and years about commitment to rebuilding properly, and now that we have started shedding some fat, slowly acquiring some late round picks (picks are picks), not dealing any away (shocking), and slowly establishing a decent core of kids, we want to ship them out to address other holes in the roster and again sign prolific UFA's to $ and term.

Mind boggling.

Somebody made me feel immature about still hating Boston, so just returning the favour.

I was just talking about players who played more than 10 games. We've had a few more who played less than 10. Doesn't really improve the optics.

But when you think about it, not sure why we female dog so much. We had 3 out of 6 Dmen on the roster who were picked in the top 10. That's awesome.
- bloatedmosquito

Whoops my bad.

I just hope we pick at least 3 Dmen at this draft so we have some new blood to talk about. I think the idea of trading for a Dman won't be as appealing when we have more on the way

Did you read the part were he said players who have played more than 10 games?

I hope that wasn't too hurtful.
- Marwood

I think I need a safe space.

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- A_SteamingLombardi

And how much do we here in Canada think TB residents know about hockey?.....let alone heard of hockey
- SMBDragon

I mean, I live in Canada and I know a lot about the NFL/NBA despite Vancouver not having a team in either league so I don't think it's fair to paint everyone with the same brush.

Not to mention that a lot of Canadians move to Florida when they retire.


I was reading about Juolevi at HF.com and someone posted these quotes from a lot of TB fans regarding Sergachev:

An unmitigated disaster as a top 4 Dman at this stage of his career.

I have serious concerns that he has the hockey IQ to be more than a depth Dman with a good shot.

He's getting to be as annoying as Drouin except defense is his first job.

His defense and engagement still so bad but if he had the 2 guys ahead of him doing their job it wouldn't look as bad. And credit where it's due, getting anything on the scoreboard is an achievement right now.

we need to get a couple younger legit d men.... sergachev is a mess serious mess

Sergachev has been god awful. And I LIKE sergachev.

Sergachev is so awful it's not even funny.

Had high hopes for this guy, been noticing his laziness and stupid passes the last couple months. It showed big time tonight.

This dude has no idea how to gap up. It's really bad. He's either going out of position to make a hit at the redline or he's sitting back at the top of the circles.

I remember this past summer when most people balked at the idea of including 98 in a deal for Karlsson. I get that he has potential and he looked good last season, but his sloppy play & lackadaisical style is just unbearable right now. Hope maybe it’s just a sophomore slump kind of thing. Otherwise he’ll be another lazy Russian with wasted talent. To think that he was possibly the piece holding up any deal for EK just drives me nuts.

You ever seen this guy on a loose puck?

Me neither.

The positional stuff, gap control etc are mistakes a 20 year old is going to make and you can learn but man not moving your feet to fight for pucks? being soft as hell on the boards? that's just a matter of getting in there and doing the work. It's just pure lazy from a 20 year old professional hockey player"

I think he's just slow to react in the defensive zone because he has problems processing plays.

I thought he was supposed to skate well

one last note thank god cernak and foote were trained to be d first cause sergachev is abysmal at this point serious liability and that sucks.... Cernak had his worst game all year last night imho pass after pass after pass missing smdh. But still sergachev somehow was worse to me and im like putting him in rare category of carle/sustr.....I am not sure we can get through to this kid shoot game three 5 times he was out of place on wrong side of net. He was almost crying on ice as he made plays rewatch tape if you can so the staff was on him but damn did he get all messed up in head that game.... sad hope im wrong and we can fix him a bit at least not to be a liability

Probably a lot of frustration boiling over due to being swept in round 1, but still pretty eye-opening quotes.

we complained long and hard for years and years about commitment to rebuilding properly, and now that we have started shedding some fat, slowly acquiring some late round picks (picks are picks), not dealing any away (shocking), and slowly establishing a decent core of kids, we want to ship them out to address other holes in the roster.

Mind boggling.
- Codes1087

It really is.

we complained long and hard for years and years about commitment to rebuilding properly, and now that we have started shedding some fat, slowly acquiring some late round picks (picks are picks), not dealing any away (shocking), and slowly establishing a decent core of kids, we want to ship them out to address other holes in the roster and again sign prolific UFA's to $ and term.

Mind boggling.
- Codes1087

I got two words for you: Malkin

EK said he's available. Rebuild complete.

I got two words for you: Malkin

EK said he's available. Rebuild complete.
- bloatedmosquito