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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 18 @ 9:36 PM ET
It's a quandary.

I expect Botterill to make at least 1 free agency move of more note than Pouliot or Hutton.

He needs to act with a sense of urgency to save his job. Not desperation, but urgency

- jcragcrumple


That one move will be Matt Duchene
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 18 @ 9:36 PM ET
I have different definitions of simply being a playoff team and being a cup contender.
- Pegullaville



I think we all know.

Your "theory" has been proven completely wrong with all the exciting upsets and close series.

Now we pick 7th and watch all these other cities enjoy April hockey.



ieetbred
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.30.2011

Apr 18 @ 9:36 PM ET
If he wanted a cheap contract but I believe he wants a $5 million-$6 million contract

He’s like the Drew Stafford average type player that should get around 4m imo

- gerbe75pts


May be so, i wouldnt know but isnt 5-6 the new 4? 10 is certainly the new 8-9.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 18 @ 9:37 PM ET
That one move will be Matt Duchene
- gerbe75pts


Sure.

Duchene
Re-sign Skinner
Risto for a forward
Our late first for a partner for Dahlin

Spend August at the lake

See you for training camp
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 18 @ 9:37 PM ET
I think we all know.

Your "theory" has been proven completely wrong with all the exciting upsets and close series.

Now we pick 7th and watch all these other cities enjoy April hockey.

- Boss34


I had Vegas and Winnipeg coming out of the West this year and Capitals and Bruins coming out of the East. I'm still feeling confident about my prediction. Time will tell.

Edit: Like those were my WCF and ECF predictions.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Apr 18 @ 9:39 PM ET
Yes I understand. Thats why I think the Sabres are 2-3 years away from being considered Cup contenders becuase we need to make the playoffs first before having that kind of roster. By the time we are ready ROR and Hayes would be declining heavily.
- Pegullaville


But you want to tank even after ROR is gone.

Your answers are incompletely thought out.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Apr 18 @ 9:39 PM ET
That if he didn't put together a calder like capmpaign in 35 games of work he'd be sitting on the beach in Barbados instead of making a mistake in Game 4 of the Stanley Cup playoffs ?
- Pegullaville


Good players are allowed to make mistakes without having to give their resume that shows they're good after it. That's the problem, good, even great players (frank) up all over the place. That doesn't mean someone saying they made a mistake is saying they're not good players.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Apr 18 @ 9:42 PM ET
I had Vegas and Winnipeg coming out of the West this year and Capitals and Bruins coming out of the East. I'm still feeling confident about my prediction. Time will tell.

Edit: Like those were my WCF and ECF predictions.

- Pegullaville


Another answer showing you miss the point.

It’s not about who is going to be the conference finalists. It’s about when the Sabres start to win games and try the playoffs.
ieetbred
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.30.2011

Apr 18 @ 9:42 PM ET
I had Vegas and Winnipeg coming out of the West this year and Capitals and Bruins coming out of the East. I'm still feeling confident about my prediction. Time will tell.

Edit: Like those were my WCF and ECF predictions.

- Pegullaville


Cant argue the west, but from what ive seen boston and the capitals are not as good as cbus or the islanders.

Hell its getting hard to argue the canes arent worthy of a spot in the ECF
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 18 @ 9:42 PM ET
But you want to tank even after ROR is gone.

Your answers are incompletely thought out.

- Der Kaiser


I'm excited about who we are going to get 7. I think that player has a better chance of helping us in 2022 then ROR would have.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 18 @ 9:42 PM ET
You mean 7th overall? (frank) no. No goalie is worth moving down 3 spots. Certainly not some schmuck with 10 total NHL games with a .909 2.92 line.
- Wetbandit1


10 games is not a career. I think he's 5-3, which isnt bad.

He has tons of ahl experience which I'm sure botts has noticed.

He's the right age for the Sabres
Boston college background (jbotts loves college guys)
Just got named to the USA iihf team this afternoon
Vancouver already has a starter in markstrom

I also swapped 7 and 10
Not 7 and ullmark for demco

If we like 10 guys, what's the difference
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 18 @ 9:44 PM ET
Another answer showing you miss the point.

It’s not about who is going to be the conference finalists. It’s about when the Sabres start to win games and try the playoffs.

- Der Kaiser


I thought they were trying to win games up until game 55 when it was apparent that the roster lacked the depth, coaching, and goaltending to go any further. Botts knew it too and although he made a move for Montour that was clearly a trade for the future. Players don't tank, management does.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Apr 18 @ 9:44 PM ET
I'm excited about who we are going to get 7. I think that player has a better chance of helping us in 2022 then ROR would have.
- Pegullaville


It’s NOT ABOUT ROR.

It’s about trying to win now - after the ROR trade, by acquiring other players and gaining playoff experience - rather than tanking forever.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 18 @ 9:45 PM ET
Have to imagine 6m on a long term deal. Are you comfortable handing him an Okposo-like deal?
- Lunaion



6 x 6
Maybe

At some point we have to acquire some talent
Were 22 million under the cap
Next year bogo and sobotka gone

2C'S aren't cheap
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 18 @ 9:45 PM ET
Cant argue the west, but from what ive seen boston and the capitals are not as good as cbus or the islanders.

Hell its getting hard to argue the canes arent worthy of a spot in the ECF

- ieetbred


FWIW I had Boston beating Tampa and Vegas beating Calgary. Pittsburgh and Isles to me were a toss up.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Apr 18 @ 9:46 PM ET
I thought they were trying to win games up until game 55 when it was apparent that the roster lacked the depth, coaching, and goaltending to go any further. Botts knew it too and although he made a move for Montour that was clearly a trade for the future. Players don't tank, management does.
- Pegullaville



They should have made additional acquisitions beyond Montour.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Apr 18 @ 9:46 PM ET
It's a quandary.

I expect Botterill to make at least 1 free agency move of more note than Pouliot or Hutton.

He needs to act with a sense of urgency to save his job. Not desperation, but urgency

- jcragcrumple


Will be interesting to watch. I certainly hope he's not pressured into a long term mistake.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 18 @ 9:46 PM ET
10 games is not a career. I think he's 5-3, which isnt bad.

He has tons of ahl experience which I'm sure botts has noticed.

He's the right age for the Sabres
Boston college background (jbotts loves college guys)
Just got named to the USA iihf team this afternoon
Vancouver already has a starter in markstrom

I also swapped 7 and 10
Not 7 and ullmark for demco

If we like 10 guys, what's the difference

- Boss34


Mike Smith had an .898 and led the Flames to the top spot in the west.

Hutton and Ullmark will be fine until UPL gets here in a year and a half. Especially if we can tighten up the d zone and score a few more goals. No reason to spend assets on goaltending imo
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 18 @ 9:47 PM ET
It’s NOT ABOUT ROR.

It’s about trying to win now - after the ROR trade, by acquiring other players and gaining playoff experience - rather than tanking forever.

- Der Kaiser


No, its about winning for now on. I want a team that can compete year in and year out. Having a cost controlled top 6 caliber forward making 900K will be imperative in a salary cap world, especially if we are paying Skinner $9M to eventually be our 5th most important forward.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 18 @ 9:48 PM ET
I had Vegas and Winnipeg coming out of the West this year and Capitals and Bruins coming out of the East. I'm still feeling confident about my prediction. Time will tell.

Edit: Like those were my WCF and ECF predictions.

- Pegullaville



Not bad
I have Calgary vs. Nashville
And Tampa vs. Pittsburgh

Lol
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 18 @ 9:49 PM ET
They should have made additional acquisitions beyond Montour.
- Der Kaiser


Botts has an offseason to clear out deadweight and put his stamp on the team. Let's see what happens before we pile on the guy for not making enough moves to have us pick 13th instead of 7th. No moves he would of made would of made us a playoff team last year. Even with ROR we had too many holes.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 18 @ 9:49 PM ET
It’s NOT ABOUT ROR.

It’s about trying to win now - after the ROR trade, by acquiring other players and gaining playoff experience - rather than tanking forever.

- Der Kaiser


👍
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Apr 18 @ 9:50 PM ET
No, its about winning for now on. I want a team that can compete year in and year out. Having a cost controlled top 6 caliber forward making 900K will be imperative in a salary cap world, especially if we are paying Skinner $9M to eventually be our 5th most important forward.
- Pegullaville


with this year’s draft you may see a top 6 forward on the roster in two years. So the winning your putting together isn’t from NOW on, it will require more delay and waste of Eichel, Dahlin elc, Reinhart, etc
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 18 @ 9:52 PM ET
Not bad
I have Calgary vs. Nashville
And Tampa vs. Pittsburgh

Lol

- Boss34


I have Winnipeg beating Boston in the Cup final.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 18 @ 9:52 PM ET
Botts has an offseason to clear out deadweight and put his stamp on the team. Let's see what happens before we pile on the guy for not making enough moves to have us pick 13th instead of 7th. No moves he would of made would of made us a playoff team last year. Even with ROR we had too many holes.
- Pegullaville



What would a team have to give up to move from 13 to 7 on this years draft? Just curious?

Is that better then some much needed playoff Hope's and experience

Wouldnt guys want to sign with buffalo if we weren't a complete joke?
Wouldnt guys want to stay?

6 picks higher though?
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