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feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Apr 19 @ 3:33 PM ET
Wrong


What it’s means is that by and large racism isn’t everywhere.
I know black people who drop the N word constantly. If that word was so oppressive they would never use it.
30 plus year old friend of mine says he hasn’t been called that since high school.
Obama got elected because millions of white folks voted for him.
Have you ever played Grand Theft Auto? Here’s a hint it isn’t all silver spoon white kids playing it.
Maybe you should learn what racism really is because your not there yet.
I have never seen a burning cross on someone’s lawn. I’ve never seen a sign banning black people on buses stores diners.
What I do see is society ie. Media and politicians coddling people by their ethnicity etc. If you mean racism is prevalent then ok yes.
Living my life and going about my day no people don’t give a poop about what color you are, who your having relations with or what religion you are.
It’s actually I nice thing to experience maybe you should try it sometime.

- bird_dog_pa

I work with inner city kids and adults, and over the years, I have had frequent discussions with all of them about the struggles they face daily. I realize though listening to them that my experience as a white person with racism is VASTLY different to minorities.

Racism is not just burning crosses. Racism is how cops treat black people. Racism is our justice system unfairly biased against people of color. Racism does not have to be obvious to be felt. It's impossible to just wash away racism when it is ingrained in our society from hundreds of years ago. Are things getting better? Yes, obviously. But we still have a long way to go.

I'm not going to educate you on these issues, because like I said, you are blissfully ignorant of its effects on society while not being in plain view. That is not your fault, that's just what happens growing up white a lot of times. All I will say is seek out opinions, views, and information from people that actually experience racism daily and you might be surprised what you find.

It's impossible to eradicate racism when some are ignorant of it.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Apr 19 @ 3:33 PM ET
Drmidnight is basically pc principle from south park. Sad how some people play into racism being a way bigger issue than it is, because it’s really a non issue. Fun fact, slavery at its peak, only 1.6 percent of people owned slaves in 1860. AT ITS PEAK.
- Richieattack18


Oh my god.
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Apr 19 @ 3:33 PM ET
You don’t watch enough news bruh
- Just5

Yeah he should watch more cnn. They make sure everyone knows that everyone is a racist and are always correct. 😂
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 19 @ 3:34 PM ET
No matter the reason, this is a huge positive for the Flyers. The whole Kate Smith thing should’ve been fired into the sun ages ago.
- StepfordSam


If it's proven that she was a racist and not simply a person that had beleifs similar to the majority of the time which are now proven wrong then sure get rid of the connection. Otherwise, it should remain. I enjoyed the history of it and liked the duets. I'll tell you what, current ownership is seemingly doing whatever they can to push me towards being a former fan.

Is there still a push to remove any glorification of Jefferson or have they decided he was a man of the period?
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Apr 19 @ 3:35 PM ET
The real victims in this Kate Smith statue debacle are the birds man! Now they have no place to poop.

End rant.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Apr 19 @ 3:35 PM ET
Yeah he should watch more cnn. They make sure everyone knows that everyone is a racist and are always correct. 😂
- Richieattack18


Or you can read a bunch of different sources and come up with a conclusion you feel the truth is.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Apr 19 @ 3:36 PM ET
If it's proven that she was a racist and not simply a person that had beleifs similar to the majority of the time which are now proven wrong then sure get rid of the connection. Otherwise, it should remain. I enjoyed the history of it and liked the duets. I'll tell you what, current ownership is seemingly doing whatever they can to push me towards being a former fan.

Is there still a push to remove any glorification of Jefferson or have they decided he was a man of the period?

- Hextall271


The flyers don't have a Jefferson statue or play his speeches.
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Apr 19 @ 3:37 PM ET
Where is ed Snyder when we really need him he wouldn’t put up with this bs
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Apr 19 @ 3:37 PM ET
But all the white cops shooting black people bruh
- Just5


The news of white cops helping black people is non existent right.
I have zero sympathy for cops who shoot anyone in the back. That’s just dumb and someone who has no business being a cop.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 19 @ 3:39 PM ET
The news of white cops helping black people is non existent right.
I have zero sympathy for cops who shoot anyone in the back. That’s just dumb and someone who has no business being a cop.

- bird_dog_pa


While I agree, Think you’ll ever hear of a white cop shooting a white person in the back? I guess it never happens
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Apr 19 @ 3:41 PM ET
Or you can read a bunch of different sources and come up with a conclusion you feel the truth is.
- DrMidnite

Is rather not watch mainstream media, if you couldn’t tell they currently have lost all credibility for their recent hoax
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 19 @ 3:43 PM ET
The flyers don't have a Jefferson statue or play his speeches.
- DrMidnite


Lol. Can’t make it up
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Apr 19 @ 3:43 PM ET
Is rather not watch mainstream media, if you couldn’t tell they currently have lost all credibility for their recent hoax
- Richieattack18


Very well said!
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Apr 19 @ 3:44 PM ET
While I agree, Think you’ll ever hear of a white cop shooting a white person in the back? I guess it never happens
- Just5

You’re kind of disgusting to suggest such crap without facts. The last how many years there have been about 2 times the amount of white people killed by cops than blacks. It’s a phony narrative
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Apr 19 @ 3:44 PM ET
Lol. Can’t make it up
- Just5


That you care so much about Kate Smith.

Hell no.

Cheers!
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Apr 19 @ 3:45 PM ET
You’re kind of disgusting to suggest such crap without facts. The last how many years there have been about 2 times the amount of white people killed by cops than blacks. It’s a phony narrative
- Richieattack18


And it's also disproportionate, Richie.
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Apr 19 @ 3:46 PM ET
And it's also disproportionate, Richie.
- DrMidnite

The point is we only ever hear about cops killing a certain race like they are out to get them. Sad reporting by so called journalists
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Apr 19 @ 3:47 PM ET
The news of white cops helping black people is non existent right.
I have zero sympathy for cops who shoot anyone in the back. That’s just dumb and someone who has no business being a cop.

- bird_dog_pa


Hey! Common ground.

Police and Military deserve preferential treatment, and are held to a higher standard.

They need to make examples of the bad actors.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 19 @ 3:48 PM ET
The flyers don't have a Jefferson statue or play his speeches.
- DrMidnite


Guess you don't see my point. Had it been proven that she was a racist? If not should she not be treated similarly to how Jefferson has?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 19 @ 3:49 PM ET
Where is ed Snyder when we really need him he wouldn’t put up with this bs
- Richieattack18


Amen. His statue is probably next to go.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Apr 19 @ 3:51 PM ET
Guess you don't see my point. Had it been proven that she was a racist? If not should she not be treated similarly to how Jefferson has?
- Hextall271


THEY don't like it. Whether or not she explained the satire, or apologized really doesn't matter.

She may be brought back later!

AND HOT TAKE ALERT....

KATE SMITH < THOMAS JEFFERSON
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Apr 19 @ 3:52 PM ET
Amen. His statue is probably next to go.
- Hextall271

He probably said something 70 years ago that someone will dig up and find it offensive and then the pc mob will have a tantrum until it’s removed.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Apr 19 @ 3:54 PM ET
My best friend is black
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 19 @ 4:05 PM ET
I always knew most of the commenters here were also frequenters of Breitbart and infowars. Sometimes when I’m bored I’ll go over there and try to figure out which one is which hockeybuzz poster.
- StepfordSam


Big_E_88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 01.17.2014

Apr 19 @ 4:05 PM ET
Provy is such a beast. Already putting in work to improve after a disappointing season.
Wonder what Ghost is doing. Probably planting tulips with the Mrs.
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