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KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Apr 19 @ 4:06 PM ET
Last Exception:

Bill Meltzer should be embarrassed with this response from his base of readers.

Honestly, so the statue goes down?

Everyone's lives are forever altered?

We cannot distance ourselves from our awful past or current president. But we can try and reconcile.

And a team can choose who they want to represent themselves.

Those songs are awful, product of 'bigotry is cool or not.

AND not EVERYONE thought that way.

Once again. Embarrassing awful views here today.

- DrMidnite



Christ, your good-bye is longer than the ending of Lord of the Rings
bmoreflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Baltimore
Joined: 07.06.2017

Apr 19 @ 4:08 PM ET
I just love the song God Bless America ok? I am just upset that we will never be graced with hearing that song anymore. It was an awesome moment during pre-game. Now such a great song is linked to a singer that cant defend herself, and is from a much different generation, because it's all about business.. It just irks me.

Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Apr 19 @ 4:09 PM ET
Christ, your good-bye is longer than the ending of Lord of the Rings
- KINGKENZO

😂😂😂
RajaAmpat
Joined: 12.16.2018

Apr 19 @ 4:11 PM ET
Thats right!! I am an equal opportunity hater!
I hate everyone at first 😂

- sILKAsSINASALO


Don Rickles school of comedy, and he called people hockey pucks as an insult, very old stuff
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 19 @ 4:12 PM ET
THEY don't like it. Whether or not she explained the satire, or apologized really doesn't matter.

She may be brought back later!

AND HOT TAKE ALERT....

KATE SMITH < THOMAS JEFFERSON

- DrMidnite


Hasn't the decision been made? I didn't say Smith was equal to Jefferson, simply that they should perhaps be held by the same standard.

Also. No need to YELL! Just say you don't want to have a respectful conversation and be done with it.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Apr 19 @ 4:14 PM ET
Hasn't the decision been made? I didn't say Smith was equal to Jefferson, simply that they should perhaps be held by the same standard.

Also. No need to YELL! Just say you don't want to have a respectful conversation and be done with it.

- Hextall271


WHY should they be held to the same standard?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 19 @ 4:15 PM ET
Christ, your good-bye is longer than the ending of Lord of the Rings
- KINGKENZO


Seriously hate filled. What's wrong with discussing and respecting diverse opinions on this matter. I don't think anyone said racism is acceptable, just how we're dealing with historical figures is up for debate.

What I see a lot of now and I can't stand it is that people are so entrenched in their opinions, they won't even take time to discuss. Just say you should be embarrassed for having a different opinion than I have.
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Apr 19 @ 4:16 PM ET
WHY should they be held to the same standard?
- DrMidnite

Why wouldn't they be held to the same standard? OH I know its because you enjoy pushing your "everyone is a racist" narrative.
ThirdEye
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ardmore, PA
Joined: 01.04.2013

Apr 19 @ 4:30 PM ET
Boy did I pick the wrong day to end my two year hiatus from checking in here. Some seriously (frank)ed up posts in here today. Ps, you guys really think Ed Snider - a minority himself - would have had a big problem with them cutting ties with Kate Smith over this? Come on.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 19 @ 4:41 PM ET
I just love the song God Bless America ok? I am just upset that we will never be graced with hearing that song anymore. It was an awesome moment during pre-game. Now such a great song is linked to a singer that cant defend herself, and is from a much different generation, because it's all about business.. It just irks me.
- bmoreflyer

times change you should too
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 19 @ 4:43 PM ET
Boy did I pick the wrong day to end my two year hiatus from checking in here. Some seriously (frank)ed up posts in here today. Ps, you guys really think Ed Snider - a minority himself - would have had a big problem with them cutting ties with Kate Smith over this? Come on.
- ThirdEye

did she sing any songs about Jews?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 19 @ 4:47 PM ET
Just like Chris Rock said.

When someone says "Listen. I'm not racist, but..."

"You're about to hear the most racist s**t ever."

Because it's true. And you don't even know. And it is a big problem.

- DrMidnite

Bring back Simmonds now!!
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 19 @ 4:48 PM ET
Provy is such a beast. Already putting in work to improve after a disappointing season.
Wonder what Ghost is doing. Probably planting tulips with the Mrs.

- Big_E_88


I wish our guys would skip this dumb tournament. Why do they hold these things? Who gives a rats ass?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 19 @ 4:48 PM ET
Bring back Simmonds now!!
- SuperSchennBros


On a one year deal!! 4th line money!
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Apr 19 @ 4:53 PM ET
Boy did I pick the wrong day to end my two year hiatus from checking in here. Some seriously (frank)ed up posts in here today. Ps, you guys really think Ed Snider - a minority himself - would have had a big problem with them cutting ties with Kate Smith over this? Come on.
- ThirdEye


Yes I do. To remove a part of Flyers tradition and someone that was admired in Philadelphia because of "possible" racism in the 1930's.... 40 some years before she was linked to the team and before the civil rights movement that opened people's eyes is overreaction.

If you can show me that she was personally a racist or bigot until they day she died or she was during the time she worked with the Flyers organization then fine take it down.

But this is a witch hunt. You can't go back 60 years and call someone a sexist because something that happened 60 years ago would be considered sexual harassment now. There were different values and standards back then. If the person still does it, yes bad person, if not they learned this wasn't right and fixed themselves.

What really gets me is this should be a fan choice. If the fans want the statue down and the song to stop they will let the organization know. Flyers history does not belong to the Flyers. It belongs to all of us.

I was really upset how they are handling the Shawny situation and this is pushing it over the edge.

If anyone feels the need to be offended there is plenty of current events to be offended over. How about we leave what happened almost 100 years ago in the past.
darkerens
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.24.2017

Apr 19 @ 4:58 PM ET
Looney Libs came for Kate.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Apr 19 @ 5:00 PM ET
Yes I do. To remove a part of Flyers tradition and someone that was admired in Philadelphia because of "possible" racism in the 1930's.... 40 some years before she was linked to the team and before the civil rights movement that opened people's eyes is overreaction.

If you can show me that she was personally a racist or bigot until they day she died or she was during the time she worked with the Flyers organization then fine take it down.

But this is a witch hunt. You can't go back 60 years and call someone a sexist because something that happened 60 years ago would be considered sexual harassment now. There were different values and standards back then. If the person still does it, yes bad person, if not they learned this wasn't right and fixed themselves.

What really gets me is this should be a fan choice. If the fans want the statue down and the song to stop they will let the organization know. Flyers history does not belong to the Flyers. It belongs to all of us.

I was really upset how they are handling the Shawny situation and this is pushing it over the edge.

If anyone feels the need to be offended there is plenty of current events to be offended over. How about we leave what happened almost 100 years ago in the past.

- youarewrong


Nuance and critical thinking are endangered concepts these days.
Big_E_88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 01.17.2014

Apr 19 @ 5:02 PM ET
Looney Libs came for Kate.
- darkerens


This post is just a few letters off from being a great porno name
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Apr 19 @ 5:02 PM ET


I was really upset how they are handling the Shawny situation and this is pushing it over the edge.


- youarewrong



Wait, what happened to Shawny? I'm completely out of the loop here...

Edit: Nevermind, found it.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 19 @ 5:04 PM ET
I wish our guys would skip this dumb tournament. Why do they hold these things? Who gives a rats ass?
- Just5

some people like playing sports?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 19 @ 5:05 PM ET
Yes I do. To remove a part of Flyers tradition and someone that was admired in Philadelphia because of "possible" racism in the 1930's.... 40 some years before she was linked to the team and before the civil rights movement that opened people's eyes is overreaction.

If you can show me that she was personally a racist or bigot until they day she died or she was during the time she worked with the Flyers organization then fine take it down.

But this is a witch hunt. You can't go back 60 years and call someone a sexist because something that happened 60 years ago would be considered sexual harassment now. There were different values and standards back then. If the person still does it, yes bad person, if not they learned this wasn't right and fixed themselves.

What really gets me is this should be a fan choice. If the fans want the statue down and the song to stop they will let the organization know. Flyers history does not belong to the Flyers. It belongs to all of us.

I was really upset how they are handling the Shawny situation and this is pushing it over the edge.

If anyone feels the need to be offended there is plenty of current events to be offended over. How about we leave what happened almost 100 years ago in the past.

- youarewrong


"God damn millennials even ruined the Flyers!"
Hokeeguy9
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Joined: 06.25.2012

Apr 19 @ 5:10 PM ET
Stalin perfected this with "enemy of the people" designation. People would not only disappear physically, but the would disappear from publications, movies, pictures. Libraries would rid of the books that even referencing the "enemy", newspapers and archives would alter the group pictures to remove that person, the songs written by the "enemy" would be prohibited etc.
It's a perfect tool to divide and conquer, to install fear and distrust.

I would not even imagine the devastation if Stalin had a twitter.

- missingmike


Someone else who gets it. Thank you, Sir!!
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 19 @ 5:11 PM ET
Yes I do. To remove a part of Flyers tradition and someone that was admired in Philadelphia because of "possible" racism in the 1930's.... 40 some years before she was linked to the team and before the civil rights movement that opened people's eyes is overreaction.

If you can show me that she was personally a racist or bigot until they day she died or she was during the time she worked with the Flyers organization then fine take it down.

But this is a witch hunt. You can't go back 60 years and call someone a sexist because something that happened 60 years ago would be considered sexual harassment now. There were different values and standards back then. If the person still does it, yes bad person, if not they learned this wasn't right and fixed themselves.

What really gets me is this should be a fan choice. If the fans want the statue down and the song to stop they will let the organization know. Flyers history does not belong to the Flyers. It belongs to all of us.

I was really upset how they are handling the Shawny situation and this is pushing it over the edge.

If anyone feels the need to be offended there is plenty of current events to be offended over. How about we leave what happened almost 100 years ago in the past.

- youarewrong


Very well said.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 19 @ 5:12 PM ET
Nuance and critical thinking are endangered concepts these days.
- Sublime55


This is what frustrates me the most.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 19 @ 5:15 PM ET
This is what frustrates me the most.
- Hextall271

I agree people that can't sympathize with people that might be upset about our past can't critically think.
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