If it makes you feel any better, We're having the same problems up here in kanida eh! They've been removing statues of our first prime minister and general Cornwallis because they weren't nice to the aboriginal peoples at the time. Killing went back and forth but somehow we need to erase history in order to make amends. I've taken a lot of history courses i my studies and that just kills me. Ugh.
- Hextall271

I spend a fair amount of time in southern Ontario fishing with my pop every summer. Yes, we see the same sh!t up there as well. Sorry my friend. Good to hear to you are learning your history, and not running from it! Cheers, neighbor!

A group of privileged white males decided today to cover up a statue, and possibly take it down, of WW 1 & WW 2 radio personality Kate Smith today. Smith was a pioneer for women on radio and pushed for equal opportunity for women with body identity issues. Kate struggled with discrimination from radio producers and news media.

"An indelicate review in The New York Times on October 31, 1926, under the heading "A Sophie Tucker Rival", said: "A 19-year-old girl, weighing in the immediate neighborhood of 200 pounds, is one of the discoveries of the season for those whose interests run to syncopators and singers of what in the varieties and nightclubs are known as 'hot' songs. Kate Smith is the newcomer's not uncommon name."

As Pansy Sparks, Smith's role was to be the butt of Bert Lahr's often cruel jibes about her girth. She said later that she often wept with humiliation in her dressing room after the show.

The pioneer Smith became partners with Ted Collins, her longtime manager in 50–50 partnership. She later credited Collins with helping her overcome her self-consciousness, writing, "Ted Collins was the first man who regarded me as a singer, and didn't even seem to notice that I was a big girl."

Kate Smith is a hero to Women with body identity issues and her legacy will be missed as she has become a casualty of people judging a person's character based on words and actions used 92 years ago by today's hyper-sensitive standards.
- youarewrong

Let's just ignore how derogatory the lyrics she sang were towards other groups tho. Can't praise her for lifting up one group and just ignore how god awful those lyrics are towards another.

I seriously don't even know why I came back into this thread today. A sport largely watched by upper class whites probably isn't going to care much about something that wildly diminishes minorities. This little statue and video clip must just be that important.

But on a lighter note I still don't understand why she got a friggin statue in the first place. Plenty of players in this franchise that they could've dedicated that space to over a (frank)ing anthemist. Hell, does Gene Hart even have a statue?

Let's just ignore how derogatory the lyrics she sang were towards other groups tho. Can't praise her for lifting up one group and just ignore how god awful those lyrics are towards another.

I seriously don't even know why I came back into this thread today. A sport largely watched by upper class whites probably isn't going to care much about something that wildly diminishes minorities. This little statue and video clip must just be that important.

But on a lighter note I still don't understand why she got a friggin statue in the first place. Plenty of players in this franchise that they could've dedicated that space to over a (frank)ing anthemist. Hell, does Gene Hart even have a statue?
- hereticpride

Lauren Hart is a racist and Gene was her father so by all accounts and mention of the Hart family should be stricken from flyer history.
While at it an investigation of every worker and player must be done so social justice can be done and have the world made better.

Let's just ignore how derogatory the lyrics she sang were towards other groups tho. Can't praise her for lifting up one group and just ignore how god awful those lyrics are towards another.

I seriously don't even know why I came back into this thread today. A sport largely watched by upper class whites probably isn't going to care much about something that wildly diminishes minorities. This little statue and video clip must just be that important.

But on a lighter note I still don't understand why she got a friggin statue in the first place. Plenty of players in this franchise that they could've dedicated that space to over a (frank)ing anthemist. Hell, does Gene Hart even have a statue?
- hereticpride

That’s alright she’ll be replaced by a Meek Mill statue in all likelihood. His songs are sung in sixers and eagles games. You know the same guy that sings about killing n$$$$$ and spouting “crackas” in his lyrics. Most of us are white males so we should just shut up right? From one racist to another at least. Us racists can still get our racist fix on

Let's just ignore how derogatory the lyrics she sang were towards other groups tho. Can't praise her for lifting up one group and just ignore how god awful those lyrics are towards another.

I seriously don't even know why I came back into this thread today. A sport largely watched by upper class whites probably isn't going to care much about something that wildly diminishes minorities. This little statue and video clip must just be that important.

But on a lighter note I still don't understand why she got a friggin statue in the first place. Plenty of players in this franchise that they could've dedicated that space to over a (frank)ing anthemist. Hell, does Gene Hart even have a statue?
- hereticpride

She sang a song about 90 years ago, she must clearly be racist. So sick of these A hole libs that get to label anybody they want as racist without even having the facts that they are in fact a racist. Pathetic

She sang a song about 90 years ago, she must clearly be racist. So sick of these A hole libs that get to label anybody they want as racist without even having the facts that they are in fact a racist. Pathetic
- Richieattack18

Agreed!

Soon enough they’ll learn the difference between a knob and a switch. I pray they don’t keep doing this sh!t til they flip the switch.

Agreed!

Soon enough they’ll learn the difference between a knob and a switch. I pray they don’t keep doing this sh!t til they flip the switch.
- Hokeeguy9

The shame is some pajama boy who doesn’t know what the real world is like found out and went batpoop crazy triggered. Now a bullpoop social media campaign is started where the vast majority of posters are bots.

....and you’re a douchebag for calling her racist. What gives you the moral authority to label someone? Just shut the hell up. You’re making an idiot of yourself.
- Hokeeguy9

you just labeled me dude

Let's just ignore how derogatory the lyrics she sang were towards other groups tho. Can't praise her for lifting up one group and just ignore how god awful those lyrics are towards another.

I seriously don't even know why I came back into this thread today. A sport largely watched by upper class whites probably isn't going to care much about something that wildly diminishes minorities. This little statue and video clip must just be that important.

But on a lighter note I still don't understand why she got a friggin statue in the first place. Plenty of players in this franchise that they could've dedicated that space to over a (frank)ing anthemist. Hell, does Gene Hart even have a statue?
- hereticpride

i can tell you upper class whites aren't watching hockey in san jose

i can tell you upper class whites aren't watching hockey in san jose
- 2Real

Racist

The shame is some pajama boy who doesn’t know what the real world is like found out and went batpoop crazy triggered. Now a bullpoop social media campaign is started where the vast majority of posters are bots.
- bird_dog_pa

yall sound pretty triggered here actually

Racist
- bird_dog_pa

it's racist to assume hockey is only for upper class white people

it's racist to assume hockey is only for upper class white people
- 2Real

This only works one way didn’t you know?

This only works one way didn’t you know?
- Just5

oh yea only one group can be racist

but she was a racist
- 2Real

There needs to be some context....did she change her views over time? Did she apologize? Her actions at the time can viewed as such while acknowledging she changed and no longer holds them. Again, some further context and nuance is necessary here.

There needs to be some context....did she change her views over time? Did she apologize? Her actions at the time can viewed as such while acknowledging she changed and no longer holds them. Again, some further context and nuance is necessary here.
- Sublime55

well never know but we know you shouldn't make music that puts down any group because that's forever

That’s the narrow view. It’s more the overreaction, and the assault on our history. We learn from history, we don’t try to erase it. The looney libs are creating more villains, so they can be the moral hero’s. The worst part is, too many sheep follow this nonsense, and now here we are.
- Hokeeguy9

Hey, if you're hell bent on turning this into a microcosm of everything that Tucker Carlson told you was wrong with the world, then have at it.

The rest of us aren't nearly so pessimistic and sensitive.

There is always a cut off in knowledge. My 30 year old cousin didn’t know Cam Neely was Sea Bass.

Hey, if you're hell bent on turning this into a microcosm of everything that Tucker Carlson told you was wrong with the world, then have at it.

The rest of us aren't nearly so pessimistic and sensitive.
- Tomahawk

seriously i don't give a poop what people do as long as they don't cross the line

well never know but we know you shouldn't make music that puts down any group because that's forever
- 2Real

Of course it’s not right that music was made and I don’t think anybody here would disagree, but thats not the point...you made the accusation and we both agree that we don’t know whether her views changed or not over time, so we can’t make that broad accusation without further information.

Of course it’s not right that music was made and I don’t think anybody here would disagree, but thats not the point...you made the accusation and we both agree that we don’t know whether her views changed or not over time, so we can’t make that broad accusation without further information.
- Sublime55

evidence her lyrics

evidence her lyrics
- 2Real

Clearly I was talking about her life afterwards...come on, man

Clearly I was talking about her life afterwards...come on, man
- Sublime55

apparently there's enough information for the yankees and flyers

Hey, if you're hell bent on turning this into a microcosm of everything that Tucker Carlson told you was wrong with the world, then have at it.

The rest of us aren't nearly so pessimistic and sensitive.
- Tomahawk

If you had a clue, I’d debate you....but since you don’t, I won’t. I’m sure Tucker follows me, not the other way around! Go back to your tinfoil hat and Ritchie Maddow. 😂😂😂

If you had a clue, I’d debate you....but since you don’t, I won’t. I’m sure Tucker follows me, not the other way around! Go back to your tinfoil hat and Ritchie Maddow. 😂😂😂
- Hokeeguy9

you guys crack me up