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eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 22 @ 1:16 PM ET
Be our leading scorer, who was the last 90 point islander? Palfy is my guess. Also theres talk of Malkin to rangers to help with all their young Russian players so why not kessel to isles?
- Upstate_isles

I don't believe that Malkin talk for a second. A day or two after that was mentioned there was another Athletic article quoting Rutherford saying that the only two players that were legitimately untouchable were Sid and Malkin. I have a hard time believing the Rangers are going to take on an injury prone 33yo with a long-term $9.5M when they're about to have wave after wave of young talent coming to the big club.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Apr 22 @ 1:22 PM ET
Ristolainen blows cack.
- Cptmjl


So did virtually every Isles d-man before some structure was put in place

Risto has a good skill set and is still young...it wouldn't surprise me if a team pays a good price betting that he'd be a lot better in a different environment, and it wouldn't surprise me if that team was right.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 22 @ 1:24 PM ET
So did virtually every Isles d-man before some structure was put in place

Risto has a good skill set and is still young...it wouldn't surprise me if a team pays a good price betting that he'd be a lot better in a different environment, and it wouldn't surprise me if that team was right.

- UIF

and Buffalo desperately needs another skilled center
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Apr 22 @ 1:44 PM ET
I don't believe that Malkin talk for a second. A day or two after that was mentioned there was another Athletic article quoting Rutherford saying that the only two players that were legitimately untouchable were Sid and Malkin. I have a hard time believing the Rangers are going to take on an injury prone 33yo with a long-term $9.5M when they're about to have wave after wave of young talent coming to the big club.
- eichiefs9


The Rags will go hard after Panarin. I agree with you Chiefs Malkin will not be traded and if he was the Rags really don’t fit.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 22 @ 1:45 PM ET
The Rags with go hard after Panarin. I agree with you Chiefs Malkin will not be traded and if he was the Rags really don’t fit.
- nyisles7

Isles, Rangers, Panthers, and Blackhawks (in no particular order) are all going to be chasing after him hard. I'm sure there will be one or two dark-horse teams that come out of nowhere, too.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 22 @ 1:49 PM ET
An article from the Athletic on the Penguins

During this meeting, Sullivan showed a video of Chad Ruhwedel with the puck in the corner behind goaltender Matt Murray. There were no Penguins forwards visible in the screenshot, prompting Sullivan to say, “What is Chad supposed to do in this situation?”

Pittsburgh’s second line was on the ice during this particular sequence. Thus, Sullivan’s question was directed toward that unit. Evgeni Malkin offered his opinion:

“He’s in the NHL,” Malkin said in front of the entire team. “He can skate it out.

Therein lay so may problems.

nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Apr 22 @ 1:49 PM ET
Isles, Rangers, Panthers, and Blackhawks (in no particular order) are all going to be chasing after him hard. I'm sure there will be one or two dark-horse teams that come out of nowhere, too.
- eichiefs9


I think the Rags have the inside track then the Cats. Now if the Islanders make a long run in these POs and Belmont is truly in motion, then The Islanders can be the front runner.

That said I feel it will be hard to beat the Rags out on him.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Apr 22 @ 1:51 PM ET
An article from the Athletic on the Penguins

During this meeting, Sullivan showed a video of Chad Ruhwedel with the puck in the corner behind goaltender Matt Murray. There were no Penguins forwards visible in the screenshot, prompting Sullivan to say, “What is Chad supposed to do in this situation?”

Pittsburgh’s second line was on the ice during this particular sequence. Thus, Sullivan’s question was directed toward that unit. Evgeni Malkin offered his opinion:

“He’s in the NHL,” Malkin said in front of the entire team. “He can skate it out.

Therein lay so may problems.


- Vukota


Elite skill does not equal elite smarts unfortunately.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 22 @ 1:53 PM ET
I think the Rags have the inside track then the Cats. Now if the Islanders make a long run in these POs and Belmont is truly in motion, then The Islanders can be the front runner.

That said I feel it will be hard to beat the Rags out on him.

- nyisles7

Yeah I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised to see him sign in NY. I know there's been plenty of reports about how he loved playing for Q and, obviously, the no state income tax thing...but I just have such a hard time seeing him go there. Maybe I end up eating my words, but their goaltending is a mess with no real foreseeable fix on the horizon and their defense isn't particularly great either. I don't see them being all that close to being a real contender.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Apr 22 @ 2:03 PM ET
Yeah I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised to see him sign in NY. I know there's been plenty of reports about how he loved playing for Q and, obviously, the no state income tax thing...but I just have such a hard time seeing him go there. Maybe I end up eating my words, but their goaltending is a mess with no real foreseeable fix on the horizon and their defense isn't particularly great either. I don't see them being all that close to being a real contender.
- eichiefs9



That’s why I says Fl is #2. Though to beat the great weather and no income tax. That said I just see him and his better half wanting the N.Y. scene.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 22 @ 2:17 PM ET
That’s why I says Fl is #2. Though to beat the great weather and no income tax. That said I just see him and his better half wanting the N.Y. scene.
- nyisles7

Yeah but you never know what his actual criteria is. Maybe he's already got his Cup and he just wants to cash in on the biggest payday out there or maybe he is super competitive and really wants to go for another. Who knows, the Rangers may not be interested in spending $11M on a guy when they're still trying to rebuild.

He may see the Isles as a little further along and having a better chance to sustain being competitive. Hank is on the decline and there's no guarantee that a) Georgiev can repeat this year success or b) Shesterkin is going to be the real deal. I suppose, in the interest of objectivity, there's no guarantee that Lehner can repeat this year's success either...but I think he's a safer bet.

I'd still like to see the Isles go and get Gusev from Vegas if he isn't planning on running back to Russia after the playoffs. There's no way they can re-sign him and W. Karlsson this offseason.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Apr 22 @ 2:29 PM ET
Yeah but you never know what his actual criteria is. Maybe he's already got his Cup and he just wants to cash in on the biggest payday out there or maybe he is super competitive and really wants to go for another. Who knows, the Rangers may not be interested in spending $11M on a guy when they're still trying to rebuild.

He may see the Isles as a little further along and having a better chance to sustain being competitive. Hank is on the decline and there's no guarantee that a) Georgiev can repeat this year success or b) Shesterkin is going to be the real deal. I suppose, in the interest of objectivity, there's no guarantee that Lehner can repeat this year's success either...but I think he's a safer bet.

I'd still like to see the Isles go and get Gusev from Vegas if he isn't planning on running back to Russia after the playoffs. There's no way they can re-sign him and W. Karlsson this offseason.

- eichiefs9


Going to be a very interesting off season for sure.

Gusev is interesting however, haven’t we had enough of the Russians wanting to be in Russia?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 22 @ 2:34 PM ET
Going to be a very interesting off season for sure.

Gusev is interesting however, haven’t we had enough of the Russians wanting to be in Russia?

- nyisles7

Well if he wants to be in Russia then we wouldn't trade for his RFA rights. But if he wants to play in NA then I'd love to give him a deal. Lead the KHL in points this year and was 13pts ahead of the next guy. Finished 2nd the year prior, to Kovalchuk, by one point. Fourth two years ago. He's a player.

I think I'd rather have Gusev+Duchene than Panarin alone.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 22 @ 2:38 PM ET


Dobson named to QMJHL First All-Star team
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Apr 22 @ 2:39 PM ET
Blow this you fake ref.
- Cptmjl

Apparently it's not my whistle
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Apr 22 @ 2:40 PM ET
I don't believe that Malkin talk for a second. A day or two after that was mentioned there was another Athletic article quoting Rutherford saying that the only two players that were legitimately untouchable were Sid and Malkin. I have a hard time believing the Rangers are going to take on an injury prone 33yo with a long-term $9.5M when they're about to have wave after wave of young talent coming to the big club.
- eichiefs9

Well it is the rangers
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 22 @ 2:42 PM ET
So did virtually every Isles d-man before some structure was put in place

Risto has a good skill set and is still young...it wouldn't surprise me if a team pays a good price betting that he'd be a lot better in a different environment, and it wouldn't surprise me if that team was right.

- UIF

Yeah it’s possible Trotz can fix him but I wouldn’t by any means pay a steep price for him based on that. If that’s the case let someone else take that risk.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 22 @ 2:43 PM ET
Well it is the rangers
- Upstate_isles

Meh, it's not Sather's Rangers anymore. Gorton isn't just throwing big money at the big free agents and trading away all their picks/prospects at the deadline. They're finally trying to build the right way. I don't love everything they've done but they've done well and they're going to add a top prospect like Kakko into the fold and they'll have at least one other first rounder with the potential to have three in total, plus either two or three 2nd rounders.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Apr 22 @ 2:43 PM ET
Elite skill does not equal elite smarts unfortunately.
- nyisles7

Well to be fair it looks like his parents decided to vacation at Chernobyl and then procreate there as well
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 22 @ 2:44 PM ET
Well to be fair it looks like his parents decided to vacation at Chernobyl and then procreate there as well
- Upstate_isles

Don't you steal my jokes you filthy slut
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 22 @ 2:45 PM ET
Apparently it's not my whistle
- Upstate_isles

Over the glass in the bench=penalty. Idiot your lack of knowledge shows.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Apr 22 @ 2:46 PM ET
Don't you steal my jokes you filthy slut
- eichiefs9

I dont recall the Chernobyl part I've seen the pics before
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Apr 22 @ 2:46 PM ET
Over the glass in the bench=penalty. Idiot your lack of knowledge shows.
- Cptmjl

The one guy turned out to be a ref and talked to me about it trash panda sucks. For the record there isnt a casebook for situations in the NHL book it's not defined in it so I went based on our calls. The guy I work with is a ahl linesman he said that's the call but could be different
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 22 @ 2:56 PM ET
I dont recall the Chernobyl part I've seen the pics before
- Upstate_isles

A) Just to be clear, I'm joking

and

B) you liked the (frank)ing tweet I made the joke in
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 22 @ 3:11 PM ET
Yeah I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised to see him sign in NY. I know there's been plenty of reports about how he loved playing for Q and, obviously, the no state income tax thing...but I just have such a hard time seeing him go there. Maybe I end up eating my words, but their goaltending is a mess with no real foreseeable fix on the horizon and their defense isn't particularly great either. I don't see them being all that close to being a real contender.
- eichiefs9


I do not see how any major FA can pick the Rangers over the Isles at this point with Lou and Barry and this current run. If winning is a priority it has to be the Isles.
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