I think we are all getting emotional. I mean the islanders just swept the penguins
- kasperrko

Not me I'm the opposite, im the anti emotion

Was just using them as an example substitute any other team that needs a goalie
- Vukota

I just don't see him walking away from the Isles unless either he has a patently-absurd asking price or Lou is a total lowballing scumbag.

Isles have the cap space to make it happen. If our books looked like DET's then I might be agreeing with you, but thankfully they don't. There's no reason they can't shell out $4M-$5M AAV on a 4 year deal.

I just don't see him walking away from the Isles unless either he has a patently-absurd asking price or Lou is a total lowballing scumbag.

Isles have the cap space to make it happen. If our books looked like DET's then I might be agreeing with you, but thankfully they don't. There's no reason they can't shell out $4M-$5M AAV on a 4 year deal.
- eichiefs9

I am off this mindset I guess it depends on what he asks for. Part of me thinks he may take a bit less for the isles giving him a chance

Also lehner loves it here. After all his issues and problems he had and the islanders helped him through that, I don’t think he wants to go anywhere else no matter what.
- kasperrko

Does Lou look like the sentimental type? If he thinks Sorokin is the guy going forward then Lehner can stay as the backup or try to get a starting gig on the open market

Does Lou look like the sentimental type? If he thinks Sorokin is the guy going forward then Lehner can stay as the backup or try to get a starting gig on the open market
- Vukota

Which is why I said I trust lou. If lehner wants an absurd deal and they believe sorokin is the future they let him walk and extend greiss or let greiss play out next year splitting with sorokin. If the kid proves hes got it then they move forward with him

I am off this mindset I guess it depends on what he asks for. Part of me thinks he may take a bit less for the isles giving him a chance
- Upstate_isles

I think he might take a bit less, partially for that reason but also for a whole bunch of other reasons. Trotz's system is a dream to play goaltender behind. He's comfortable with the system and he may not want to risk going elsewhere where there's uncertainty.

And, most importantly, the Islanders....are good, have good prospects, have cap space, and have a management team in place that work like hell to make them better. The future is bright.

This isn't Thomas Vanek who has nice things to say but ultimately knows the team isn't going to be a long-term contender because there is a drugged-up chimp running the show

I just don't see him walking away from the Isles unless either he has a patently-absurd asking price or Lou is a total lowballing scumbag.

Isles have the cap space to make it happen. If our books looked like DET's then I might be agreeing with you, but thankfully they don't. There's no reason they can't shell out $4M-$5M AAV on a 4 year deal.
- eichiefs9

I think your missing my point. If Sorokin tells Lou I will come over but I want to be the man after year one. Lehner then tells Lou I want to stay but I don’t want to be a backup after one year. What do you do? Tell Sorokin to take a hike? Or do you wish Lehner good luck and keep Greiss for a year?

Which is why I said I trust lou. If lehner wants an absurd deal and they believe sorokin is the future they let him walk and extend greiss or let greiss play out next year splitting with sorokin. If the kid proves hes got it then they move forward with him
- Upstate_isles

Agreed

I think your missing my point. If Sorokin tells Lou I will come over but I want to be the man after year one. Lehner then tells Lou I want to stay but I don’t want to be a backup after one year. What do you do? Tell Sorokin to take a hike? Or do you wish Lehner good luck and keep Greiss for a year?
- Vukota

Well that'd be a hell of a decision to have to make. I don't really know.

Obviously I don't know Sorokin from a hole in the wall, but I have a tough time thinking he'd be making demands like that. I can understand him not wanting to go from whatever he's making in the KHL to like $80k year in the AHL but to just outright demand the starting job despite never playing on a smaller ice surface would be pretty bold.

I think he might take a bit less, partially for that reason but also for a whole bunch of other reasons. Trotz's system is a dream to play goaltender behind. He's comfortable with the system and he may not want to risk going elsewhere where there's uncertainty.

And, most importantly, the Islanders....are good, have good prospects, have cap space, and have a management team in place that work like hell to make them better. The future is bright.

This isn't Thomas Vanek who has nice things to say but ultimately knows the team isn't going to be a long-term contender because there is a drugged-up chimp running the show
- eichiefs9

Very good points i think who we bring in as a f.a. may play a role too. That's a whole other topic but I'm excited to see who they can land after finishing 5th overall sweeping a round and having a real coach and gm

Very good points i think who we bring in as a f.a. may play a role too. That's a whole other topic but I'm excited to see who they can land after finishing 5th overall sweeping a round and having a real coach and gm
- Upstate_isles

Yeah that's what I was trying to touch on in that second paragraph a little. They have cap space and willingness to add some real talent. They have a whole bunch of real strong prospects waiting in the wings to either come up through the system or be traded. Things are trending up for the Isles.

Well that'd be a hell of a decision to have to make. I don't really know.

Obviously I don't know Sorokin from a hole in the wall, but I have a tough time thinking he'd be making demands like that. I can understand him not wanting to go from whatever he's making in the KHL to like $80k year in the AHL but to just outright demand the starting job despite never playing on a smaller ice surface would be pretty bold.
- eichiefs9

I don’t think it’s that far fetched and that was my original question. Especially if he is as good as we all think he will be

Igor Eronko @IgorEronko
1m
Ilya Sorokin, who just won Gagarin Cup MVP title: #Isles have great team, Lou Lamoriello changed it completely. But I have another year in my contract

WELL, that's that. Waste of a conversation

One more year to go and then we'll know for good.

Igor Eronko @IgorEronko
1m
Ilya Sorokin, who just won Gagarin Cup MVP title: #Isles have great team, Lou Lamoriello changed it completely. But I have another year in my contract

WELL, that's that. Waste of a conversation

One more year to go and then we'll know for good.
- eichiefs9

I hate Russians 😂 😂

I hate Russians 😂 😂
- Vukota

I can't say I wasn't a little skeptical of Staple's reports that he wanted to come over this offseason despite Eronko's reports that it was too late for him to buy out his contract. I guess technically things could still change but it's not the end of the world. He's 23 and there's time.

I'm certainly not upset with having more Lehner, that's for sure.

I can't say I wasn't a little skeptical of Staple's reports that he wanted to come over this offseason despite Eronko's reports that it was too late for him to buy out his contract. I guess technically things could still change but it's not the end of the world. He's 23 and there's time.

I'm certainly not upset with having more Lehner, that's for sure.
- eichiefs9

Absolutely I love the guy. I’m just excited to see what this Ruskie is all about

Absolutely I love the guy. I’m just excited to see what this Ruskie is all about
- Vukota

If he gets extended again it's over. That would suck, big time.

Yeah that's what I was trying to touch on in that second paragraph a little. They have cap space and willingness to add some real talent. They have a whole bunch of real strong prospects waiting in the wings to either come up through the system or be traded. Things are trending up for the Isles.
- eichiefs9

Imagine going from awful for years to being like the hawks were or something similar? I wouldn't know how to react to a consistently good team with actual cup aspirations

Imagine going from awful for years to being like the hawks were or something similar? I wouldn't know how to react to a consistently good team with actual cup aspirations
- Upstate_isles

Small steps. Let's win two playoff rounds first

I hate Russians 😂 😂
- Vukota

Told you I don’t trust Russians

Small steps. Let's win two playoff rounds first
- eichiefs9

Agreed, it's possible but canes and caps both present a tougher challenge for sure

Speaking of Russians, one thing I'd be real interested in? Depending on what his long-term plans are, I'd love to try and get Nikita Gusev out of Vegas. They're going to have a real tough time signing Karlsson this summer with Stone's big extension, among others, kicking in next year.

Gusev was the top scorer in the KHL and is a stud. He's 26yo winger that'll be an arb-eligible RFA. He could be a great plan-B if they whiff on Panarin.

Told you I don’t trust Russians
- kasperrko

Yeah I don't trust the guy sticking around his team to honor the contract he signed in good faith. Seems like a real scumbag.

All indications are that Lehner likes being an Islander. He's only 27 years old. If he takes the Isles deep into the playoffs, do you really want to let him go? Not all Russian players make a successful transition to the NHL.
- JohnScammo

I agree. I'm not ready to toss Lehner away unless he his salary demands are out of whack.

I hate Russians 😂 😂
- Vukota

It's never easy. I have no issue going with Robin and Thomas for another year.