He'll get you 60+ points if healthy but will be -40 doing it. Not worth it.
- LordHumungous

he averages 72+ points and a -4 per year for his career , so not quite that bad

2017/18 - 100 points +23 goal differential
2018/19 - 101 points +28 goal differential



*goes to check advanced stats*

PP% was higher but PK% was slightly lower.
- Pacificgem

Down 2-0 with 24 mins left in game 7.

Down 2-0 with 24 mins left in game 7.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Hockey is a team game.

Tavares made the Leafs a better team but they still lost game 7. It takes a team to win.

Hockey is a team game.
- Pacificgem

They got to the 2nd rd last year, this year I think they're done tonight.

Hockey is a team game.

Tavares made the Leafs a better team but they still lost game 7. It takes a team to win.
- Pacificgem

So why sign him if he can't make the TEAM better in the playoffs?

They got to the 2nd rd last year, this year I think they're done tonight.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Vegas looks good, tight checking and maybe more talented?

wow ! you keep comparing a draft eligible kid to cup-winners and established NHL'ers,and your only argument seems to be he's small
- onesmallleap

He’s not small he is puny duh

So why sign him if he can't make the TEAM better in the playoffs?
- A_SteamingLombardi

now that is a good question. I wonder how all the TO cast-off media in this town will try to spin the Wonderkins failings , and how the model franchise for drafting and doing it the right way will explain the loss to the Bruins

So why sign him if he can't make the TEAM better in the playoffs?
- A_SteamingLombardi

it’s not a one man show out there, given the right circumstances he could absolutely help the Canucks be a better team, it’s pretty obvious he’s one of the best in the business. Agree to disagree. You’ve gotta build one brick at a time.

Ristolained is half the cost and can give you the same bad D in his own end
- VANTEL

Bingo

He’s not small he is puny duh
- Nighthawk

and he outscores all the big kids. like St.Louis

They got to the 2nd rd last year, this year I think they're done tonight.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Toronto also had a better playoff last year too .

and he outscores all the big kids. like St.Louis
- onesmallleap

Kids yes
St Louis he will never be...quote me

Kids yes
St Louis he will never be...quote me
- Nighthawk

do you get the concept of being the best in your peer group? why would that change in the next step ? he has proven over and over that he keeps developing as he and others move up tiers , in fact he exceeds as the levels get harder

I've listed smaller players that were counted out early , I've never said he'll be this or that , just that it can happen for a smaller guy

Caulfield maybe top 5 😂😂😂😂😂

Caulfield maybe top 5 😂😂😂😂😂
- Nighthawk

we'll see

do you get the concept of being the best in your peer group? why would that change in the next step ? he has proven over and over that he keeps developing as he and others move up tiers , in fact he exceeds as the levels get harder
- onesmallleap

He doesn’t make players better.
He doesn’t drive the play.
When he plays against bigger faster & better players he’ll be another perimeter player like a Nylander Ehlers & every other regular season then a playoff disappearing act. The Housley of forwards.

we'll see
- onesmallleap

Friendly wager?

He doesn’t make players better.
He doesn’t drive the play.
When he plays against bigger faster & better players he’ll be another perimeter player like a Nylander Ehlers & every other regular season non-playoff disappearing act. The Housley of forwards.
- Nighthawk

he makes everyone around him better
he drives play by always scoring
the rest is just your opinion with no basis in fact
right now in his peer group playing in a playoff like tourney ,he is outscoring the consensus #1 pick , while breaking / challenging the all time records for goal scoring in the tourney

Friendly wager?
- Nighthawk

sure i'll take top 5 if you take 11 or later

he makes everyone around him better
he drives play by always scoring
the rest is just your opinion with no basis in fact
- onesmallleap

Ok he is McJesus 2.0

sure i'll take top 5 if you take 11 or later
- onesmallleap

Done

Priceless

https://twitter.com/Xpose...tatus/1120837706752282624

Bingo
- Nighthawk

Karlsson cost you money, Risto costs you assets, it’s not even close how much less Karlsson would cost. Vantel is out to lunch, as usual, sorry.

Leafs🤣👍