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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 23 @ 10:53 PM ET
So he isnt 22, but how much more contract control could you want at 3 years 4.5 cap hit for a guy that scores at a 20g pace with two 30g seasons at an average ice time under 17 mins?

At some point bonafide NHL players need to be brought in. Since we have let so many go

- ieetbred


I'm not gonna trash the idea. I think it's a pretty reasonable proposal, I'd just want to go younger

For me, if I'm trading in the division, I'd go Cirelli and Gourde for Risto. Maybe we'd have to add Erod.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Apr 23 @ 10:55 PM ET
I'm not gonna trash the idea. I think it's a pretty reasonable proposal, I'd just want to go younger

For me, if I'm trading in the division, I'd go Cirelli and Gourde for Risto. Maybe we'd have to add Erod.

- jcragcrumple



I know Cirelli is a younger guy, but Kadri is only 1 year older than Gourde

Just saying.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 23 @ 10:56 PM ET
I'm not gonna trash the idea. I think it's a pretty reasonable proposal, I'd just want to go younger

For me, if I'm trading in the division, I'd go Cirelli and Gourde for Risto. Maybe we'd have to add Erod.

- jcragcrumple


Cirelli, Foote , Johnson , For Ristolainen , 2nd
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 23 @ 10:57 PM ET
I do like Cirelli he’s a hidden gem he’s going to be like Bergeron In the near future

Hopefully Tampa doesn’t see that yet
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 23 @ 10:59 PM ET
I know Cirelli is a younger guy, but Kadri is only 1 year older than Gourde

Just saying.

- Powerslave


Cirelli is the key piece moving forward. Gourde is a nice complementary piece (imo) that makes the cash flow even, and his NTC doesn't kick in til July 1
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Apr 23 @ 11:00 PM ET
Cirelli is the key piece moving forward. Gourde is a nice complementary piece (imo) that makes the cash flow even, and his NTC doesn't kick in til July 1
- jcragcrumple



I like em all.

Do it.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 23 @ 11:00 PM ET
I get that, just curious what you were thinking.

Kinda seemed like everyone in management was pretty upset. Like someone lied to them or mislead them to believe something that wasnt true.

- Boss34


I’m thinking they met with Babcock,
and he was all in- but had to check with wifey
In the meantime...
got a last ditch offer from the Leafs,
and Wifey said she’d rather live in Toronto

But who knows?
That’s just my guess

It certainly could’ve been him using us to get more $$$ from the Leafs
I’m just not gonna act like i know for sure what happened one way or the other
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 23 @ 11:02 PM ET
Broken pucks
- TheSabresTaco


Seems like our Nylander plus Larsson/Girgs might be in the ballpark of getting it done

But that’s from the fans

Who knows what their GMs thoughts would be?


I even got an offer of their Nylander for ours straight up
Leafs fans are pretty p!ssed at Willie
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 23 @ 11:02 PM ET
Cirelli, Foote , Johnson , For Ristolainen , 2nd
- gerbe75pts


Has a full NTC
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 23 @ 11:04 PM ET
We have to get Cirelli and Foote out of Tampa Foote and the Swedish Jesus oh my

gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 23 @ 11:04 PM ET
Has a full NTC
- jcragcrumple


That’s right ugh keep forgetting 😆😭
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 23 @ 11:05 PM ET
We have to get Cirelli and Foote out of Tampa Foote and the Swedish Jesus oh my
- gerbe75pts


2022-2023 d-corps
Dahlin-Foote
Samuelson- Montour
Pilut-Borgen

c1067
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 12.08.2006

Apr 23 @ 11:08 PM ET
I’m not trying to sound like a smart a$$ and I’m definitely not trolling, but a lot of people on this site always says that Buffalo should trade for this guy, or trade for that guy. If my memory serves me correctly the 3 players that were any good that were acquired in trades are gone and is possibly leaving. O’reilly, Kane and Skinner. The Sabres track record for trades aren’t very good. Their free agent signing are probably worst. Continue building through the draft and hopefully they can turn out some stars.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 23 @ 11:08 PM ET
We have to get Cirelli and Foote out of Tampa Foote and the Swedish Jesus oh my
- gerbe75pts


I doubt Tampa would do it, but ❤️❤️❤️
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 23 @ 11:09 PM ET
I’m not trying to sound like a smart a$$ and I’m definitely not trolling, but a lot of people on this site always says that Buffalo should trade for this guy, or trade for that guy. If my memory serves me correctly the 3 players that were any good that were acquired in trades are gone and is possibly leaving. O’reilly, Kane and Skinner. The Sabres track record for trades aren’t very good. Their free agent signing are probably worst. Continue building through the draft and hopefully they can turn out some stars.
- c1067


Good post. Skinner isn’t gone, yet. However building through the draft is the way to go forsure.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 23 @ 11:09 PM ET
That’s right ugh keep forgetting 😆😭
- gerbe75pts


It's probably Gourde or Miller before their clauses kick in on July 1. Tampa needs to shed cash

I'd take Gourde over Miller.

If we have to take Callahan, maybe you can get Callahan, Gourde, Cirelli and Foote for Risto, perhaps Erod and a mid-rounder and Olofsson
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 23 @ 11:09 PM ET
I’m not trying to sound like a smart a$$ and I’m definitely not trolling, but a lot of people on this site always says that Buffalo should trade for this guy, or trade for that guy. If my memory serves me correctly the 3 players that were any good that were acquired in trades are gone and is possibly leaving. O’reilly, Kane and Skinner. The Sabres track record for trades aren’t very good. Their free agent signing are probably worst. Continue building through the draft and hopefully they can turn out some stars.
- c1067


Very fair points
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 23 @ 11:10 PM ET
2022-2023 d-corps
Dahlin-Foote
Samuelson- Montour
Pilut-Borgen

- Pegullaville


Last time I had a blueprint of what we were going to get from the blues before the trade actually happened I got my hopes wayyyyy up and it crushed in my face lol

This has that feeling
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 23 @ 11:13 PM ET
2022-2023 d-corps
Dahlin-Foote
Samuelson- Montour
Pilut-Borgen

- Pegullaville


And that doesn’t include Laaksonen (RD)

I gotta say though...
Was disappointed in what i read & heard about Samuelsson this year
Was expecting him to be more dominant
Seemed to have struggles
And has a lot of work to do with his skating

I know it’s good (really more like “ok”) for his size,
but it’s got a ways to go (supposedly) for him to be a Top4 guy in the NHL
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 23 @ 11:14 PM ET
It's probably Gourde or Miller before their clauses kick in on July 1. Tampa needs to shed cash

I'd take Gourde over Miller.

If we have to take Callahan, maybe you can get Callahan, Gourde, Cirelli and Foote for Risto, perhaps Erod and a mid-rounder and Olofsson

- jcragcrumple


Lol Botts better stick to his (frank)ing guns this time get Cirelli and Foote or Foote and gourde or Miller and Cirelli or Miller and Foote

If he doesn’t end up with one of Cirelli or Foote for 24 D that gets a year 40pts and -1356777



PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Apr 23 @ 11:15 PM ET
Good post. Skinner isn’t gone, yet. However building through the draft is the way to go forsure.
- Pegullaville

So hang on to our second 1st, right? That's what I'd prefer. Folks promote the idea of another "Montour-Type deal" but those are rare. And also people forget, we gave up a good prospect in Guhle to make that deal happen. We don't have enough of those as it is.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 23 @ 11:18 PM ET
Lol Botts better stick to his (frank)ing guns this time get Cirelli and Foote or Foote and gourde or Miller and Cirelli or Miller and Foote

If he doesn’t end up with one of Cirelli or Foote for 24 D that gets a year 40pts and -1356777




- gerbe75pts


I agree. Cirelli has to be part of the deal. I don't think you're getting Foote without Callahan. Might even need a small sweetener on the sabres end

Cirelli, Foote and Callahan for Risto and ERod?

It would pain me to see Erod go
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 23 @ 11:23 PM ET
So hang on to our second 1st, right? That's what I'd prefer. Folks promote the idea of another "Montour-Type deal" but those are rare. And also people forget, we gave up a good prospect in Guhle to make that deal happen. We don't have enough of those as it is.
- PrinceChill


I would keep it but then again idk who is available. If we can swing a deal for a young forward who is in the 22-24 range that can help this team I’m all for it. Like you said though, trades like that are hard to come by.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 23 @ 11:23 PM ET
I’m thinking they met with Babcock,
and he was all in- but had to check with wifey
In the meantime...
got a last ditch offer from the Leafs,
and Wifey said she’d rather live in Toronto

But who knows?
That’s just my guess

It certainly could’ve been him using us to get more $$$ from the Leafs
I’m just not gonna act like i know for sure what happened one way or the other

- jdfitz77



Definitely possible

Good post
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 23 @ 11:26 PM ET
It's probably Gourde or Miller before their clauses kick in on July 1. Tampa needs to shed cash

I'd take Gourde over Miller.

If we have to take Callahan, maybe you can get Callahan, Gourde, Cirelli and Foote for Risto, perhaps Erod and a mid-rounder and Olofsson

- jcragcrumple


Just speaking value here,
to try & balance the trade...
Risto > Foote
Callahan (Cap Space) = Gourde
Larsson/E Rod < Cirelli

Maybe something along those lines?

That only saves them about 4mil though
So we might have to take back another salary like Kilorn,
and then add something back to them that’s cheap (Tage? Cj Smith?)

Then they’re saving like 8mil +
And that’s what they’d need
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