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Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 23 @ 11:16 AM ET
hayes looks like a third-liner, possible top-nine...I don't get where everyone thinks he's a bona fide no. 2 center...and he's gonna get at least $6m on the open market for six or seven years
- Michael Pachla


Agreed.

It's the desperation to find a 2C, which Hayes is not.

Could he take some pressure off Mitts? Absolutely.

But overpaying a guy like Hayes is saddling yourself with another Okposo.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 23 @ 11:17 AM ET
Hey take it easy I’m a white guy.
- Der Kaiser

you have been a real touch hole since Tiger won the masters
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 23 @ 11:17 AM ET
OK
- SABRES 89



Ok, then.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 23 @ 11:17 AM ET
Erod as 3rd line center is fine, why pay Hayes 6 for the 3rd line, that makes no sense at all.
- SABRES 89

this


get a real second line center and move casey to the wing
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Apr 23 @ 11:18 AM ET
Yea I can't wait to keep Okposo just for another player that's 5 years or so away.
- SABRES 89

that's a huge exaggeration...

so freeing up cap space means this gm is gonna have the freedom to sign a free agent on july 1 that will magically become the best bargain the hockey universe has ever seen?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 23 @ 11:18 AM ET
Ok, then.
- Powerslave

Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 23 @ 11:18 AM ET
gonna get another zags, presson or girgs with the pick?


maybe a tinordi or gaunce

perhaps the next malcon subban



I will take the money off the books


the odds of getting the next Pastrnak is 10 percent at best

- homiedclown
why do we need the cap space this year?
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 23 @ 11:19 AM ET
Agreed.

It's the desperation to find a 2C, which Hayes is not.

Could he take some pressure off Mitts? Absolutely.

But overpaying a guy like Hayes is saddling yourself with another Okposo.

- Powerslave

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 23 @ 11:19 AM ET
that's a huge exaggeration...

so freeing up cap space means this gm is gonna have the freedom to sign a free agent on july 1 that will magically become the best bargain the hockey universe has ever seen?

- Michael Pachla

or have the money to lock up reinhart, skinner and dahlin long term
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 23 @ 11:20 AM ET
that's a huge exaggeration...

so freeing up cap space means this gm is gonna have the freedom to sign a free agent on july 1 that will magically become the best bargain the hockey universe has ever seen?

- Michael Pachla



Nope.

It means we'll overpay for another 42 point, 29 year old that we'll all be b!tching about in 2 years.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 23 @ 11:20 AM ET
why do we need the cap space this year?
- Michael Pachla

I am looking at the big picture

2, 3 and 4 years from now


is this team better with okposo with the big club or nylander/olofsson/thompson and 5 mil cap space
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 23 @ 11:21 AM ET
you do realize that Okposo was signed on July 1st and that most free agent contracts signed at that time are way overpriced?

right?

- Michael Pachla



Yes

Hopefully jbotts does a better job of evaluating talent then tmgm .

Not sure how else we will get that 2C we need though.

The whole risto thing too:

What if housley and his system are at fault for the terrible plus/minus

Maybe a new coach can cut down on the minutes and mistakes?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 23 @ 11:21 AM ET
why do we need the cap space this year?
- Michael Pachla


If we're tyring to be good, we need the cap space for FAs/trades. If they're trying at least create a modern, up-tempo bottom 6, he's addition by subtraction.

Slow, no PK ability, overpaid. Just get rid of him
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 23 @ 11:22 AM ET
I am looking at the big picture

2, 3 and 4 years from now


is this team better with okposo with the big club or nylander/olofsson/thompson and 5 mil cap space

- homiedclown



I'd rather see him trade the low first for a good player (if that's possible) than to see him trade the pick just to get rid of a guy.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 23 @ 11:23 AM ET
how much you paying him? and where does he slot in the lineup?
- Michael Pachla


Hayes

2c for a couple years
3c for a couple of years , when Casey is ready.

How's 4 years 6 million per?

Okposo $
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 23 @ 11:23 AM ET
Why are you so against getting rid of a bad player.
- SABRES 89

i'm against a panic move...everyone screams "Cap-space!!!"...I ask why?

if the plan is to fill the sabres roster with affordable, quality role players to surround Eichel, dahlin, etc., it's properly done through drafting and developing
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 23 @ 11:25 AM ET
or have the money to lock up reinhart, skinner and dahlin long term
- homiedclown

plenty of money to do that right now and next year you have Sobotka, Bogosian, Scandella and Hunwick coming off the books at a total savings of almost $15 million
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 23 @ 11:26 AM ET
i'm against a panic move...everyone screams "Cap-space!!!"...I ask why?

if the plan is to fill the sabres roster with affordable, quality role players to surround Eichel, dahlin, etc., it's properly done through drafting and developing

- Michael Pachla



Also known as backfilling.

Pay your top guys, backfill the rest.

We just need a couple/few more "top guys" 😂
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 23 @ 11:28 AM ET
I am looking at the big picture

2, 3 and 4 years from now


is this team better with okposo with the big club or nylander/olofsson/thompson and 5 mil cap space

- homiedclown
in a word no...
what has Nylander shown that would make anyone believe he'd be any better than Okposo?...and if you listened to sexton this morning, they expect Thompson to add 20 lbs to become the player they think he can become...he ain't gonna do that this off-season...
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 23 @ 11:29 AM ET
why waste a first round pick when the prospect pipeline needs so much work?
- Michael Pachla


This team has several ways to dump cap in the short term, and doesn't need to for the long term. Okposo is still a servicable player that doesn't earn his paycheck. Until we're cap strained, it's not worth blowing a 1st to remove him.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 23 @ 11:29 AM ET
Hayes

2c for a couple years
3c for a couple of years , when Casey is ready.

How's 4 years 6 million per?

Okposo $

- Boss34

first off, he doesn't look like a 2c and second, i'd be surprised if his contract was only four years
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 23 @ 11:29 AM ET
hayes looks like a third-liner, possible top-nine...I don't get where everyone thinks he's a bona fide no. 2 center...and he's gonna get at least $6m on the open market for six or seven years
- Michael Pachla



How is hayes gonna get 6 million for six or seven years if he's not a bonafide 2C?

Buffalo is going to have to overpay whomever we sign.

#buffatax
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 23 @ 11:31 AM ET
How is hayes gonna get 6 million for six or seven years if he's not a bonafide 2C?

Buffalo is going to have to overpay whomever we sign.

#buffatax

- Boss34

july 1 free agency, that's how players get overpaid

and if they're going to overpay a player, what's the difference between overpaying that player and them overpaying Okposo?

they're still overpaying
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 23 @ 11:31 AM ET
How is hayes gonna get 6 million for six or seven years if he's not a bonafide 2C?

Buffalo is going to have to overpay whomever we sign.

#buffatax

- Boss34


Every UFA worth their salt is overpaid. It's the nature of the beast.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Apr 23 @ 11:32 AM ET
Yes

Hopefully jbotts does a better job of evaluating talent then tmgm .

Not sure how else we will get that 2C we need though.

The whole risto thing too:

What if housley and his system are at fault for the terrible plus/minus

Maybe a new coach can cut down on the minutes and mistakes?

- Boss34



He has had a horrible +/- his entire career. No matter the coach.
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