They never have, but if you split up 26 & 55, do you seriously believe that coach Maurice is going to give 18 any additional ice time? If 26 goes from 55, the only logical decision in coach Maurice's head would be to pair him with 17. I am thinking like coach Maurice.
- TheUltimateJet

I thought 18 and 26 had relative extended success a few seasons ago?......You really think PoMo would take Lowry out of the shut down role? He has, at least, shown the willingness to play Copp as a centre.....

I forgot Roslovic. Put him in the Dano hole
- Rexypoo

The cup is ours!! 😂.......

I thought 18 and 26 had relative extended success a few seasons ago?......You really think PoMo would take Lowry out of the shut down role? He has, at least, shown the willingness to play Copp as a centre.....
- liverpoolnhl

Don’t really know how good Lowry is in a “shut down” role considering he never plays against other teams top lines. Watching the TLC line against the O’Reilly line was painful. The TLC line was pinned in their own end most of the time O’Reilly was out there.

The TLC line plays great against other teams lesser lines and they are protected by Maurice as he never or rarely plays them against top competition. That role belongs to 55.

Wait, what? Maurice gives Little ALL the additional ice time.
PK? Little over someone better
PP2? Little over someone better
Empty Net? Little over someone better
- Rexypoo

It’s twisted loyalty. This season how often did Little play with Wheeler despite them having success in the past and if stories are true that Wheeler only wants to play with 55, than even Wheeler recognizes how badly Little has fallen off.

You also have to remember that Little had only 2 points in the last 20 games played this season. At this point in his career, he’s a third/fourth line right winger, if that.

Don’t really know how good Lowry is in a “shut down” role considering he never plays against other teams top lines. Watching the TLC line against the O’Reilly line was painful. The TLC line was pinned in their own end most of the time O’Reilly was out there.

The TLC line plays great against other teams lesser lines and they are protected by Maurice as he never or rarely plays them against top competition. That role belongs to 55.
- TheUltimateJet

Lowry is a legit Selke level centerman. The TLC line has crushed people on the regular for their entire reign. Lowry just got matched up with one of the 5 players that can beat him at every single thing in Ryan O’Rielly

It’s twisted loyalty. This season how often did Little play with Wheeler despite them having success in the past and if stories are true that Wheeler only wants to play with 55, than even Wheeler recognizes how badly Little has fallen off.

You also have to remember that Little had only 2 points in the last 20 games played this season. At this point in his career, he’s a third/fourth line right winger, if that.
- TheUltimateJet

That’s the thing that makes me mad. Little is in decline (and it’s not his fault) but he’s so overused, it makes me not love him as much.

Little has been a top 6 forward with exactly one line combination over the last two years: Perreault-Little-Ehlers. They are the best line in 2.0 history, and have never been reunited

The Jets have players that can fit in if and when the team makes some deals by the draft so don't be afraid of trading some of this years starting lineup. This team has Niku, Poolman, Appleton, Vesailinen, Stanley and Samberg that should be on the Jets in the next 2 seasons, however will they get the opportunity with Maurice as the head coach? Anyone who watched the Jets the last 3 months saw a very talented team let down by their coaches. Atrocious defensive system, horrible breakout, poor use of their lineup, questionable line combinations, weak special team play, alienating young draft and develop players and a fractured room. If this isn’t the responsibility of the head coach what is? Unfortunately Maurice and his staff are safe, for now. A slow start to the season could change things.

Lowry is a legit Selke level centerman. The TLC line has crushed people on the regular for their entire reign. Lowry just got matched up with one of the 5 players that can beat him at every single thing in Ryan O’Rielly
- Rexypoo

“Selke level”? I think one has to play against the other teams top lines on a consistent basis to be considered Selke level. I don’t know if you watch the games Rexy, but it’s always #55 that is on the ice when other teams top lines are on. #17 is never even on at the ends of games to defend leads, cause you guessed it, #55 is out there.

Also just so you know, Lowry has never received 1 vote for the Selke.

“Selke level”? I think one has to play against the other teams top lines on a consistent basis to be considered Selke level. I don’t know if you watch the games Rexy, but it’s always #55 that is on the ice when other teams top lines are on. #17 is never even on at the ends of games to defend leads, cause you guessed it, #55 is out there.

Also just so you know, Lowry has never received 1 vote for the Selke.
- TheUltimateJet

lowry plays against the other team top lines as much as 55

lowry plays against the other team top lines as much as 55
- Ross77

The eye test doesn't support that Ross. If you are able to find underlying stats that support this claim, I am willing to listen.

The Jets have players that can fit in if and when the team makes some deals by the draft so don't be afraid of trading some of this years starting lineup. This team has Niku, Poolman, Appleton, Vesailinen, Stanley and Samberg that should be on the Jets in the next 2 seasons, however will they get the opportunity with Maurice as the head coach? Anyone who watched the Jets the last 3 months saw a very talented team let down by their coaches. Atrocious defensive system, horrible breakout, poor use of their lineup, questionable line combinations, weak special team play, alienating young draft and develop players and a fractured room. If this isn’t the responsibility of the head coach what is? Unfortunately Maurice and his staff are safe, for now. A slow start to the season could change things.
- islansjet

Young players need to be put into prominent positions in order to determine their effectiveness. I will cite two recent examples:

1. Dylan Strome was labelled a bust in Arizona. Poor deployment and was constantly told he did not have Tochett's trust. Moves onto Chicago is given a prominent role and all he does is produce at a point per game.

2. Calle Makar just signed by Colorado and has been put into the fire and has done great so far these playoffs.

I just think, what if Petan was given a chance. Wonder what would have happened if Little had not gotten injured a few years back that allowed Scheifele to get an opportunity? What if Perreault had not injured at the beginning of last season? Would Connor have spent the entire last season in the AHL? What if Roslovic was given a legit opportunity to Center a NHL line, would he be good?

I wonder if the Jets could swing some kind of deal with Philly that would include LHD Provorov?

Philly is looking for some scoring, Trouba is entering his prime, I wonder if Philly and the Jets could somehow swing a deal of sorts.

I wonder if the Jets could swing some kind of deal with Philly that would include LHD Provorov?

Philly is looking for some scoring, Trouba is entering his prime, I wonder if Philly and the Jets could somehow swing a deal of sorts.
- CharlieDog

I love Provorov and think he has lots to give. He reminds me of last years Hanifin.

Perhaps we can swing a deal with Philadelphia that is reminiscent to what Calgary did with Carolina last year?

Trouba and Lowry
for
Provorov and Konecny/Patrick?

“Selke level”? I think one has to play against the other teams top lines on a consistent basis to be considered Selke level. I don’t know if you watch the games Rexy, but it’s always #55 that is on the ice when other teams top lines are on. #17 is never even on at the ends of games to defend leads, cause you guessed it, #55 is out there.

Also just so you know, Lowry has never received 1 vote for the Selke.
- TheUltimateJet

Coaching errors can not be used to discount a player’s abilities. Lowry has been a top 5 shutdown forward for 3 years now, and it’s a noticeable shift for us now that Scheifele has top defensive responsibilities and Lowry doesn’t. We’re worse.

I love Provorov and think he has lots to give. He reminds me of last years Hanifin.

Perhaps we can swing a deal with Philadelphia that is reminiscent to what Calgary did with Carolina last year?

Trouba and Lowry
for
Provorov and Konecny/Patrick?
- TheUltimateJet

Overpay. No to Lowry going across.

Coaching errors can not be used to discount a player’s abilities. Lowry has been a top 5 shutdown forward for 3 years now, and it’s a noticeable shift for us now that Scheifele has top defensive responsibilities and Lowry doesn’t. We’re worse.
- Rexypoo

You would think if that was the case that he would have gotten at least 1 vote for the Selke.

Young players need to be put into prominent positions in order to determine their effectiveness. I will cite two recent examples:

1. Dylan Strome was labelled a bust in Arizona. Poor deployment and was constantly told he did not have Tochett's trust. Moves onto Chicago is given a prominent role and all he does is produce at a point per game.

2. Calle Makar just signed by Colorado and has been put into the fire and has done great so far these playoffs.

I just think, what if Petan was given a chance. Wonder what would have happened if Little had not gotten injured a few years back that allowed Scheifele to get an opportunity? What if Perreault had not injured at the beginning of last season? Would Connor have spent the entire last season in the AHL? What if Roslovic was given a legit opportunity to Center a NHL line, would he be good?
- TheUltimateJet

RE: Strome - it's easy to take a chance on unproven youth when your team was not really in the playoff race. Jets don't have the same luxury.

RE: Petan - hope he makes it somewhere.....not sure that it will be as a Leaf either.

RE: Strome - it's easy to take a chance on unproven youth when your team was not really in the playoff race. Jets don't have the same luxury.

RE: Petan - hope he makes it somewhere.....not sure that it will be as a Leaf either.
- bennythehat

Arizona has not been in a playoff race in a long time and they gave up on him. Chicago has consistently taken chances on rookies, KHL, and other teams castoffs to get them to the cup.

See: Brandon Saad, Artemi Pananrin, Johnny Oduja

Arizona has not been in a playoff race in a long time and they gave up on him. Chicago has consistently taken chances on rookies, KHL, and other teams castoffs to get them to the cup.

See: Brandon Saad, Artemi Pananrin, Johnny Oduja
- TheUltimateJet

I didn't take AZ into consideration because they are not really an NHL franchise....
They have screwed up virtually every young player that ever came their way.

Peter Tessier: The Aftermath- where do the Jets start?
The roster, the depth and the eventual moves to be made to build the kind of team the GM and coach want are critical to starting a successful offseason.
- Peter.Tessier

Trouba was mediocre at best. 1 point, -2, and got scored on during both of his minor penalties. I sure hope Shero doesn't open his wallet too much for this kid. He is athletic and large, but that hockey IQ has peaked in my opinion.

Buff wasn't in shape and notched 8 points and was a +4

Maybe a 1 for 1 trade would be the best option for the Jets. They seem stacked on the RD side, but could use a true top 4 LD. Morrissey is obviously great. Gardiner would also be a good option for that role.

You would think if that was the case that he would have gotten at least 1 vote for the Selke.
- TheUltimateJet

The nhl awards are a joke, you can’t win the selke or Norris without points,
Even though both awards are geared towards playing defensively

The nhl awards are a joke, you can’t win the selke or Norris without points,
Even though both awards are geared towards playing defensively
- Ross77

Agreed !

The nhl awards are a joke, you can’t win the selke or Norris without points,
Even though both awards are geared towards playing defensively
- Ross77

Colton Sissons who only had 27 points last year got 6 votes.
Radek Faksa who had 30 points last year got 90 votes.

What's Lowry's excuse for not getting votes?

And, you still haven't shown me the ice time Lowry gets against other teams top centres and what his underlying stats against them are. I am sure the numbers will surprise you.

Colton Sissons who only had 27 points last year got 6 votes.
Radek Faksa who had 30 points last year got 90 votes.

What's Lowry's excuse for not getting votes?

And, you still haven't shown me the ice time Lowry gets against other teams top centres and what his underlying stats against them are. I am sure the numbers will surprise you.
- TheUltimateJet

Seriously, there are tons of stats out there google it yourself. Why don’t you show me where Shiefele did play against the top line and Lowry didn’t.
You realize for all your points there are equal amount of the opposite. Like strome and Makar getting to play with talent and developing. Well these players were given chances and were also high picks, crouse, sprong, yakapov, Fiala, Perlini, why were they all traded and not developed properly? Is that on Maurice? I could list 1000 more.

Colton Sissons who only had 27 points last year got 6 votes.
Radek Faksa who had 30 points last year got 90 votes.

What's Lowry's excuse for not getting votes?

And, you still haven't shown me the ice time Lowry gets against other teams top centres and what his underlying stats against them are. I am sure the numbers will surprise you.
- TheUltimateJet

Lowry can not get votes when Shiefele is the lone representative for the jets.