It was definitely a horrible call - at most it should have been a double minor. However, there are good arguments for a single minor or no penalty. It looked accidental.

Having said that, Las Vegas deserves to loose if they are going to give up four goals in the resulting PK. It is impossible to win the Cup without facing serious adversity along the way - usually multiple times. "Losing their heads" by abandoning everything that has made them successful, namely their sound defense, is a sure way to lose.
- PghPens668771

I can agree with everything you've said, but there's a difference between facing adversity and having an advantage artificially created by the refs and rewarding the Sharks and their poor play through 51 minutes of a game 7, with 5 minutes of a man advantage to wipe clean almost the entirety of a game 7. That this was game 7 should've been taken into account by the refs because that's the standard they've been using for all the OTs....essentially make few to no calls.

Eakin crosschecked him in the throat and then Stastny interfered with him. The zebras mustve missed the hit and just saw the result which was blood pouring out of Pavelski's head. My money was on the Sharks so I'm not complaining


Spare me the crocodile tears for Vegas, they got a lot of favourable calls this and last year and being a Buttman expansion team will continue to get many more in the future. Let's not pretend like they didn't blow a 3-1 series lead so maybe they should look themselves in the mirror instead of crying about the officials


And yes, my money was on Bruins last night as well, I had been saying since Day 1 Boston was going to win, took a lot of poop for it but ultimately was proven correct again

Where are all those Leafs fans that were talking poop now, love to say it but I told ya so


Went 4-0 last night and cashed them all continuing to kill it, all season and playoffs

Ek if you're tired of losing money with your picks, holla at your boy
- Komisaurus Rex

watch the replay in slow mo idiot, he hit him in the chest not the throat, it was his contact with stasny that made him fall awkwardly and hit his head on the ice.

Yes. He two handed him under his neck with a cross check. Not a major but Stastny didn’t need to hit the guy while he was defenseless either.

Was Eakin’s goal even a goal?

No absolutely not

Yes. He two handed him under his neck with a cross check. Not a major but Stastny didn’t need to hit the guy while he was defenseless either.

Was Eakin’s goal even a goal?

No absolutely not
- BringNYIhome

no he did not, in was on his chest not even close to the neck area, you are a liar or blind.

I don't have a dog in this fight, if anything I was probably rooting for the Sharks, but Don VanMassenhoven isn't exactly an impartial outside source.

These are the rules:



That reads that a major penalty should be assessed based on the severity of the contact, at the referees discretion. Not based on the severity of the injury. Game misconduct is automatic when there is a major x-check penalty.
- eichiefs9

Based on this I don’t have a problem with the call at all. Go Canes

no he did not, in was on his chest not even close to the neck area, you are a liar or blind.
- Athrin

Well Kadri did it an inch higher and it was 5 games on top of the major, and no one was left in a bloody pile on the ice.

Same situation? Hardly. But it shows the root of the problem. Zero consistency in the NHL.

This is a case of Bettman pulling the chain back on the new franchise so it doesn't fly too close to the sun.
- Streit2ThePoint

Exactly.. he maybe learned to control his obsessions after his overbearing Crosby one..So after special expansion rules, allowing them to have a disrespectful pregame activities on ice and paving the way to the finals he said, you have now solidified hockey in Vegas, we move on to other markets the bean counters can divvy up shared revenue from ...BTW how do you feel about the NHL feeding stats to sport books? Sound a little smarmy to me.

No
- Guile

Then you didn’t see the play

I genuinely feel like the "was it a penalty or no" is 100% not necessary. They gave up 4 goals on that PP. You don't belong in the next round if that happens. End of story. The fact of it being a penalty or not is completely voided by that fact. if it's a 1 goal game and that happens then we can talk. They had a 3 goal lead and gave up 4 on the PK, you choked, own it and move on

Things even out over the course of a 7 game series, isn't that what we believe? I don't want to hear ANYTHING from Vegas. The Sharks had more than their share of calls go against them.

If Eakin and Stastny didn't deserve penalties, then neither did Couture in Game 2, which negated a go ahead goal, gave Vegas a PP goal, AND hurt Vlasic on that penalty kill. That single sequence like cost the Sharks games 2, 3, and 4. Don't forget Thornton's "head shot" while McNabb got away with 2 on Braun. Also Goodrows slash in double OT? THAT'S what they chose to call in 2 OT'S? Eakin's high stick goal? The list goes on.

While in hind sight, I agree it wasn't a 5 minute major, but I really feel the Hockey Gods meted out some Justice!

forget it,
it happened.

it was epic.

let it go and move on

Bad call - yep

Vegas had 3 chances to eliminate SJ - went 0-3

SJ had 1 cancel to eliminate Vegas and crushed them.

Lesson is, dont give a team a chance when you have the opportunity to end them.

Sorry Vegas, welcome to the NHL
- PatShart

Yep, poop calls and all, that's the way it is. The best teams have to find a way to overcome it.

Its Karma. Eakin goal shouldnt have counted and what about game 2 disallowed goal that cost them the game because of fleurys acting. I understand it might not have been the right call, ref had the best view but mistakes happen but dont act like you were the only one screwed in that series

He gets 2 timeouts a game anyways lol. Should have asked for a third..

I think the first stoppage was there was stuff on the ice from the fans. I don't think Gallant used his timeout until there was a minute left in Reg time

Look at you calling the kettle black.

...because we all know San Jose is woven into the fabric of NHL history and tradition.

I bet you couldn't name the original Six without looking it up, not that you'll answer honestly.

The Sharks weren't handed a team like Vegas was by Bettman..
Montreal, Toronto, Chicago, Detroit, NY Rangers, Boston.

[quote=Sharks77]Look at you calling the kettle black.

...because we all know San Jose is woven into the fabric of NHL history and tradition.

I bet you couldn't name the original Six without looking it up, not that you'll answer honestly.

The Sharks weren't handed a team like Vegas was by Bettman..
Montreal, Toronto, Chicago, Detroit, NY Rangers, Boston.
Seeing your a Buffalo fan, Do they still have a team?

A 5min major to end someone's career is about right.

[quote=Sharks77]Look at you calling the kettle black.

...because we all know San Jose is woven into the fabric of NHL history and tradition.

I bet you couldn't name the original Six without looking it up, not that you'll answer honestly.

The Sharks weren't handed a team like Vegas was by Bettman..
Montreal, Toronto, Chicago, Detroit, NY Rangers, Boston.
Seeing your a Buffalo fan, Do they still have a team?
- Sharks77

The original six is bullpoop anyway. League was started with 4 teams. Unless we want to make up a new definition for Original; which is what the NHL did.

Anyway, karma (frank)ing owed this to Pete DeBoer for the Steve Bernier call in 2012. Thank you hockey gods for fixing the universe and Richarding the golden knights in the process.

Not high sticking but it was a penalty. Center takes draw vs pavelski and delivers a soft check on him. Then Eakin comes and just slams him down.

Roughing? Sure. Bad call, but a penalty anyway.


But seriously, awful PK.

It was definitely a horrible call - at most it should have been a double minor. However, there are good arguments for a single minor or no penalty. It looked accidental.

Having said that, Las Vegas deserves to loose if they are going to give up four goals in the resulting PK. It is impossible to win the Cup without facing serious adversity along the way - usually multiple times. "Losing their heads" by abandoning everything that has made them successful, namely their sound defense, is a sure way to lose.
- PghPens668771

Irrelevant.

Oh how sweet it is! Golden knights so smug and dirty. I love it. Night night knights.

Any Cross check high stick that draws blood is at least 4 minutes . this was bad a cross check to the head is a major that creates injury is a major penalty...
GOOD CALL>..
- thechezman

Had the cross-check been the cause of the blood, you might have a point. The point of contact was clearly his chest, which had nothing to do with the injury. Pavelski was bleeding because he was pushed off-balance, and struck his helmet on the ice.

Brutal call. Injury <> Penalty, even if there's blood on the ice.

It was a 2 minute minor. It wasn't worthy of a 5 minute major.

Eakins cross check was the penalty, but the combination of Pavelski being off balance and Stastny pushing off of him is what caused the injury. It really was a poor call.

I agree that any major where the refs did not have a clear view should be reviewable. I'm not even a Knights fan, this just goes to show things happen to fast for the human eye to catch.
- mcjags

Agreed!

I was wondering if you guys could explain how the teams are arranged for the draft after the first round. I went to N.H.L. site and it says it depends on where they finished the previous playoff year. Is that correct?
- Johnny Red

They draft based on their finish in the regular season, with the exception of the final 4 (SC winner drafting last, SC finalist 2nd last, and the 2 conference final losers draft 3/4th last depending on ref season finish.

TLDR the first round doesn't affect draft position, only the 2nd round onwards

Not high sticking but it was a penalty. Center takes draw vs pavelski and delivers a soft check on him. Then Eakin comes and just slams him down.

Roughing? Sure. Bad call, but a penalty anyway.


But seriously, awful PK.
- BALUCHA

Eakin was the centre, and nobody "slammed him" anywhere. He was off balance from being pushed back, and collided with Statsny. Injury aside, there were probably 10-20 dirtier incidents in the game that went unpenalized.

The PK sucked but that's like blaming a crime victim for not defending themselves. Never should have happened in the first place.