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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Apr 24 @ 10:00 PM ET
Very impressive. Is this where you break out your stat spread sheet with all the important factors that make a great player, zone entry % time, first man out of the zone, best pass % from behind the net etc. You obviously can't measure desire and player intangibles on your little stat line.


Looks like that physical Cap team with that worthless brute Tom Wilson might be moving on . Wonder what metrics were used ?

- johnnypie


Well I’ll be damned. You used the return key. I guess you can teach an old dog new tricks.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Apr 24 @ 10:15 PM ET
I don't, but Mackey had a column today stating the Pens are going to consider big changes. Players like Kessel, Geno and Letang and everybody including ownership is involved. Kingerski is probably just speculating about the possibilities.

I highly, highly doubt you'll see Geno or Letang involved in any trades. I think Yohe's article is much more plausible.

Considering we have some contracts that might be impossible to move, I think Maatta is gone. Kessel is possibly gone considering they were taking offers last year. Rust is also a viable candidate to be moved.

- madmike71


I heard Hornqvist and Maatta for Subban
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Apr 24 @ 10:20 PM ET
I heard Hornqvist and Maatta for Subban
- YouMeAndDupuis9


While I definitely think this is bullpoop... that’d be sweet. No way in hell NSH would do this without a 1st attached and maybe more lol
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 24 @ 10:26 PM ET
While I definitely think this is bullpoop... that’d be sweet. No way in hell NSH would do this without a 1st attached and maybe more lol
- j.boyd919


That would be amazing. I wonder which of Letang or Shultz would be following if that lunacy actually happened.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 24 @ 10:31 PM ET
While I definitely think this is bullpoop... that’d be sweet. No way in hell NSH would do this without a 1st attached and maybe more lol
- j.boyd919

Lol I wouldn’t do that with a first attached. A mid pairing defenseman and a guy on serious decline and a mid-low first for a #1 D? Hell of a steal for the good guys.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 24 @ 10:32 PM ET
Lol I wouldn’t do that with a first attached. A mid pairing defenseman and a guy on serious decline and a mid-low first for a #1 D? Hell of a steal for the good guys.
- Victoro311


Having Letang and Subban on the same dcore could be good enough to withstand the JJ effect.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 24 @ 10:35 PM ET
Hope our boy Bingo is doing ok.
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Apr 24 @ 10:50 PM ET
Hope our boy Bingo is doing ok.
- Victoro311

Great OT
chelios_24
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 08.30.2006

Apr 24 @ 10:51 PM ET
Wow. You guys in Toronto are actually worse than the media in Montreal. I would love to have Babcock back in Detroit
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Apr 24 @ 10:54 PM ET
Who passes that!!! Idiot!
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 24 @ 10:55 PM ET
Who passes that!!! Idiot!
- Thorny87


Trade the bum
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Apr 24 @ 11:29 PM ET
Canes are playing really well. Gonna be a heartbreaker
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Apr 24 @ 11:30 PM ET
I'm surprised Kadri doesn't take more flack for this.... one of the biggest reasons this series went the way it did was because he was suspended.. again. If he's in then Nylander doesn't have to play 3C and he can be up on the wing with Matthews.
- MrBeanTown


the entire nonsense doesn't happen if the officials call Debrusk for at a minimum a trip or imagine if they actually had the balls to call it correctly - and throw the book at Debrusk for a cheap knee on knee hit.

this would be more of concern if the circumstances surrounding the suspension and absolute bullpoop that proceeded it weren't so carefully "curated" by the quality of NHL officiating and their abhorrent lack of judgement.

You can pretend you don't know what I'm talking about - but quite frankly with a series this close to have officials make as much of an impact - and everyone simply chosing to ignore than because it benefit their team - is simply dishonest.

I'm sure Vegas feels the same way.

Bruins has experienced similar garbage playing against the Habs in the past.... but selective memory and terrible homer game coverage allow people to believe what they want.. not what actually happened. You know - alternative facts.
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Apr 24 @ 11:31 PM ET
Canes are playing really well. Gonna be a heartbreaker
- Thorny87





Fück that!! Nice!!
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 24 @ 11:32 PM ET
What a (frank)in series
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Apr 24 @ 11:36 PM ET
What a (frank)in series
- Rinosaur

Justin Williams. 15 points in game sevens. Guy has earned his nickname.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Apr 24 @ 11:37 PM ET
Just goes to show you how amazing it was for the Pens to go back to back. Caps were fried in both of those OT's......they had nothing left.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 24 @ 11:38 PM ET
Justin Williams. 15 points in game sevens. Guy has earned his nickname.
- RafiDRW


He definitely has.
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: LET'S GO BRANDON, PA
Joined: 10.05.2005

Apr 24 @ 11:39 PM ET
Justin Williams. 15 points in game sevens. Guy has earned his nickname.
- RafiDRW


Is he a Hall of Famer? I think so.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 24 @ 11:39 PM ET
Just goes to show you how amazing it was for the Pens to go back to back. Caps were fried in both of those OT's......they had nothing left.
- madmike71


Yeah they were done.....Not having Oshie didnt help but Orpik is old as dirt and Nisk is overrated.
HiSticking
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: confluence
Joined: 05.04.2016

Apr 24 @ 11:42 PM ET
Congrats to the Canes! Better team won tonight.

Extra nice for the minus to TW and his missed back-check on McGinn
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Apr 24 @ 11:49 PM ET
I heard Hornqvist and Maatta for Subban
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Where did you hear this? That would be awesome lol
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Apr 24 @ 11:50 PM ET
I don't, but Mackey had a column today stating the Pens are going to consider big changes. Players like Kessel, Geno and Letang and everybody including ownership is involved. Kingerski is probably just speculating about the possibilities.

I highly, highly doubt you'll see Geno or Letang involved in any trades. I think Yohe's article is much more plausible.

Considering we have some contracts that might be impossible to move, I think Maatta is gone. Kessel is possibly gone considering they were taking offers last year. Rust is also a viable candidate to be moved.

- madmike71

Thanks for the info. I just think we need a change moving forward. I wouldn’t trade Malkin that’s for sure.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Apr 24 @ 11:54 PM ET
I heard Hornqvist and Maatta for Subban
- YouMeAndDupuis9


I don't see any way Nash would consider that.

There's at least a few teams that could make some dumb decisions based on high expectations and a poor playoff.

Nashville, Peg, Pens. TO? I doubt the Bolts do anything stupid, but they might be the biggest paper champion in my lifetime. Getting swept makes it 10 times worse.
Blazed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.18.2012

Apr 25 @ 12:00 AM ET
No, this clickbait narrative is way overblown.

Babs overplays his veterans, dinosaur.

Barry Trotz plays Matt Martin at 5v5 as much as Matt Barzal, savant, visionary, legend.

Babcock loses a hard fought 7 game chess match against a veteran team that finished finished higher in the standing, fireable offense.

Jon Cooper gets swept by a WC after dominating the season, meh poop happens.
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