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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 24 @ 8:17 PM ET
In Leaf land they blame Kapanen & Johnsson holding back Matthews. Imo Matthews isn’t a playmaker & a shoot 1st C. We all know how Kesler & Sutter are & no help to make wingers better. Bo also is not a playmaker tbh.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 24 @ 8:17 PM ET
I would offer Kapanen 4 mil x 4

or

Touba 6.5 x7

- VANTEL



Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 24 @ 8:20 PM ET
I would offer Kapanen 4 mil x 4

or

Touba 6.5 x7

- VANTEL


Ok but Trouba would cost a 2020 1st 2nd & 3rd.
Can you live with that?

Kapanen costs a 2nd
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 24 @ 8:21 PM ET
Loui Utica

Leivo 3 rd or 4 th line

- VANTEL


👍👍
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 24 @ 8:23 PM ET
You could offer less to Kappy and the Leafs wouldnt be able to afford it. He knows he is as good as gone... he knows the Canucks will lock him into the top 6... he may find it appealing and sign it. I really really doubt they match. Do other teams OS a better deal maybe... but so few sheets are offered. Keep that in mind.
- boonerbuck


I keep in mind OS’s are rare but i’m not one for the old boys & crony crowd. A GM has to be ruthless not a lemming.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 24 @ 8:25 PM ET
I believe Trouba will be traded & very difficult to acquire in any way but i do want him. He would be a key add & allow us many more options.

Kapanen as Booner said could be had cheaper & great value on an OS if not traded.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 24 @ 8:26 PM ET
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 24 @ 8:29 PM ET
I keep in mind OS’s are rare but i’m not one for the old boys & crony crowd. A GM has to be ruthless not a lemming.
- Nighthawk



This year could be different with OS. Everyone hates TO and they are balls against the wall with cap problems.

They had no problem with taking Corrado . They offer free agents like JT promises of television ads . They hire Dads of prospects turning free agent.

Good for them . They are not breaking rules but neitheris offer sheeting their players.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 24 @ 8:30 PM ET
I keep in mind OS’s are rare but i’m not one for the old boys & crony crowd. A GM has to be ruthless not a lemming.
- Nighthawk


My point is there will likely be little if any competition on the offer sheet front. A reasonable offer can be made without hurting "the process". I'm sure the usual man bun outrage would ensue with cries that we gave away the next superstar with the outgoing mid round 2nd.


Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 24 @ 8:39 PM ET
This year could be different with OS. Everyone hates TO and they are balls against the wall with cap problems.

They had no problem with taking Corrado . They offer free agents like JT promises of television ads . They hire Dads of prospects turning free agent.

Good for them . They are not breaking rules but neitheris offer sheeting their players.

- VANTEL

Totally agree on all of the above.

Adding to that with all the PO upsets & teams in cap trouble our cap space is a weapon that should get used. I’m expecting JB to play it close to the vest & let teams target our cap. It explains this young RHD he is seeking cuz other than Fox i’ve no clue where he will get him.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 24 @ 8:41 PM ET
My point is there will likely be little if any competition on the offer sheet front. A reasonable offer can be made without hurting "the process". I'm sure the usual man bun outrage would ensue with cries that we gave away the next superstar with the outgoing mid round 2nd.

- boonerbuck


Yup the stand patters slant it to suit their narrative. Draft & develop & patience is not the only way to improve. They rather whip up the hysteria out of fear.

Hereon now known as the Mayonnaisers
😂😂
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 24 @ 8:48 PM ET
I will also take the credit for the Chicken Littles & Lemming terms.

Lastly when ASL asked a poll of what period EP will score i said in his 1st shot.

Those are the only 3 things i’ve gotten right.

Let Mayonnaisers be my 4th.

😂😂
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 24 @ 9:00 PM ET
Marleau has 1/6.25m left...

Do we take him on in a package deal & use our cap weapon?
What package do we like?

Discuss
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 24 @ 9:09 PM ET
I guess i’ll try with a mega deal & tweak as is this goes on...

Marleau/Kadri/Kapanen
for
Sutter/Beagle/???

Pearson EP Brock
Sven Bo Kapanen
Leivo Kadri JV
Motte Gaudette Roussel
LE McEwen

Vantel what’s your thoughts or changes?
Others welcome if willing to roll with this concept. If not offer up a counter. Thx
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 24 @ 9:13 PM ET
Canes playin like a dog & a bone & have no quit.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 24 @ 9:13 PM ET
Marleau has 1/6.25m left...

Do we take him on in a package deal & use our cap weapon?
What package do we like?

Discuss

- Nighthawk


He has a NMC and plays for the best team in the Galaxy who is awarded the cup before any games in the regular season are even played. Why would he waive?

Marleau and a 2nd for Granlund. Good cap dump and they get bottom 6/PK help.

Edit: Granland a free agent lol.... lets try Shaller.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 24 @ 9:18 PM ET
He has a NMC and plays for the best team in the Galaxy who is awarded the cup before any games in the regular season are even played. Why would he waive?

Marleau and a 2nd for Granlund. Good cap dump and they get bottom 6/PK help.

- boonerbuck

I didn’t know where in the line-up to put Marleau. I expect something else would have to give on the F’s. He’d need the promise of a role here & Toronto saying Robidas Island to waive.

On your counter offer it is tamer trade but more than a real possibility than mine.

Edit:
I think a trade & sign would entice Granlund.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 24 @ 9:20 PM ET
He has a NMC and plays for the best team in the Galaxy who is awarded the cup before any games in the regular season are even played. Why would he waive?

Marleau and a 2nd for Granlund. Good cap dump and they get bottom 6/PK help.

Edit: Granland a free agent lol.... lets try Shaller.

- boonerbuck

How about the rights to Granlund, Schaller, Tanev for Marleau, Zaitsev, Kapanen.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 24 @ 9:31 PM ET
How about the rights to Granlund, Schaller, Tanev for Marleau, Zaitsev, Kapanen.
- manvanfan

5 more years of Z @4.5m scares me. Lol
What is your reasoning? Thx

Edit:
Our RHD would stand to be

Stetcher
Zaitsev
Schenn
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 24 @ 9:32 PM ET
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 24 @ 9:34 PM ET
5 more years of Z @4.5m scares me. Lol
What is your reasoning? Thx

- Nighthawk

Kapanen
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 24 @ 9:39 PM ET
If Hurricanes such a bunch of jerks I might have cheered for them.



Upset
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 24 @ 9:47 PM ET
Kapanen
- manvanfan

Basically for Tanev with the others are all being fodder & we eat 5yrs of Zaitsev.

I’ll counter that...

Marleau/Kapanen/Kadri for Tanev/Sutter/Demko

Leaves a big hole on RHD.
Kadri & Kapanen big upgrade on F.
Demko is the deal maker. We give to get & put faith in Dipietro being groomed. Thiessen is the other longterm G. Marky earned 3 more years at a good price. Sign a vet backup. Idk how that all sounds?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 24 @ 9:49 PM ET
I would offer Kapanen 4 mil x 4

or

Touba 6.5 x7

- VANTEL

Offer away. No chance he signs that

Edit: the trouba offer sheet idea is insane. Kapanen makes some sense as it would only cost a 2nd. But offer sheets aren’t a thing anymore. If people want bold moves it won’t be from benning. He is an old school, well respected, nice guy.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 24 @ 9:58 PM ET
Offer away. No chance he signs that

Edit: the trouba offer sheet idea is insane. Kapanen makes some sense as it would only cost a 2nd. But offer sheets aren’t a thing anymore. If people want bold moves it won’t be from benning. He is an old school, well respected, nice guy.

- CanuckDon


Winnipeg can't afford him and would probably welcome an offer sheet


Yeah maybe not Benning but there will be some league wide. Arizona should OS Marner
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