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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 27 @ 9:11 PM ET
Holy F. Please stop posting.
- Team_Teal

seriously people are so off base on this
Hokeeguy9
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Joined: 06.25.2012

Apr 28 @ 6:17 PM ET
I don't think anyone disagrees that it's on VGK for letting up 4 goals on a major.

But that's not what's being discussed.

I guess you're okay with Leon Stickle missing the offsides call in 1980, too?

- jmatchett383


My blood boils every time this comes up! My temper would have had me beating Stickles’ brains in after that. Grrrrrr!!!!!
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Apr 29 @ 2:40 PM ET
Vegas were up 3 games to 1. It is absolutely on them. They also could have not allowed 4 goals in 5 minutes? How is this on the refs?!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 29 @ 4:50 PM ET
Vegas were up 3 games to 1. It is absolutely on them. They also could have not allowed 4 goals in 5 minutes? How is this on the refs?!
- Aaron_85


Of course it's on them.

Still a poopty call.
Sharks77
Season Ticket Holder
San Jose Sharks
Location: San Bruno, CA
Joined: 06.08.2013

Apr 29 @ 6:42 PM ET
How about Pavelski should have been called for interference.... He impeded Stastny’s path to the defenseman at the point who had the puck

Really? He got knocked off balance by Eakin into Stastny & you say interference. WOW Glad you don't ref games
Sharks77
Season Ticket Holder
San Jose Sharks
Location: San Bruno, CA
Joined: 06.08.2013

Apr 29 @ 6:46 PM ET
The National Hockey League has apologized to the Vegas Golden Knights for an incorrect major penalty call that opened the door for a four-goal San Jose Sharks rally and eventual victory in Game 7 of their first-round playoff series.

"The league did reach out and apologize," general manager George McPhee said Thursday in Las Vegas.

Because that's puppet master Bettman's team.
Dallas Cowboys/Americas team- Vegas Golden Knights/Gary Bettmans team
Sharks77
Season Ticket Holder
San Jose Sharks
Location: San Bruno, CA
Joined: 06.08.2013

Apr 29 @ 6:56 PM ET
The loss is 100% on the Golden Knights for not "sucking it up" and killing the bogus 5 minute major. I can't remember ever seeing more than 2 goals scored on a 5 minute major. Giving up 4 is sub-NHL caliber hockey.

Having said that, there is no way this call was fair or right. It may be possible to point to the rule book to justify it on technical terms but we all know that 5 minute majors are actually very rare (more so in the playoffs) and are only given out for very egregious and obvious penalties.

Vegas doesn't have Penalty killers because in their eyes they are perfect. Bettmans boys. Why didn't Gallant call a timeout after the second goal to settle his team down & the momentum Because he's too busy yelling at the refs & he loses his cool.
As for the call read Rule 59 to 59.8 & that's what the refs were going by.
Lets not forget the call(s) Vegas got in game 2, No way was that goalie interfence on Couture He wasn't in the Blue paint, Fluery looked like a seal flopping around out of water. Kelly Sutherland screwed that call up..
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 30 @ 9:23 AM ET
The loss is 100% on the Golden Knights for not "sucking it up" and killing the bogus 5 minute major. I can't remember ever seeing more than 2 goals scored on a 5 minute major. Giving up 4 is sub-NHL caliber hockey.

Having said that, there is no way this call was fair or right. It may be possible to point to the rule book to justify it on technical terms but we all know that 5 minute majors are actually very rare (more so in the playoffs) and are only given out for very egregious and obvious penalties.

Vegas doesn't have Penalty killers because in their eyes they are perfect. Bettmans boys. Why didn't Gallant call a timeout after the second goal to settle his team down & the momentum Because he's too busy yelling at the refs & he loses his cool.
As for the call read Rule 59 to 59.8 & that's what the refs were going by.
Lets not forget the call(s) Vegas got in game 2, No way was that goalie interfence on Couture He wasn't in the Blue paint, Fluery looked like a seal flopping around out of water. Kelly Sutherland screwed that call up..

- Sharks77


This, 100%.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 30 @ 11:25 AM ET
The loss is 100% on the Golden Knights for not "sucking it up" and killing the bogus 5 minute major. I can't remember ever seeing more than 2 goals scored on a 5 minute major. Giving up 4 is sub-NHL caliber hockey.

Having said that, there is no way this call was fair or right. It may be possible to point to the rule book to justify it on technical terms but we all know that 5 minute majors are actually very rare (more so in the playoffs) and are only given out for very egregious and obvious penalties.

Vegas doesn't have Penalty killers because in their eyes they are perfect. Bettmans boys. Why didn't Gallant call a timeout after the second goal to settle his team down & the momentum Because he's too busy yelling at the refs & he loses his cool.
As for the call read Rule 59 to 59.8 & that's what the refs were going by.
Lets not forget the call(s) Vegas got in game 2, No way was that goalie interfence on Couture He wasn't in the Blue paint, Fluery looked like a seal flopping around out of water. Kelly Sutherland screwed that call up..

- Sharks77

you forgot the call where couture got his teeth knocked out and only a 2 min penalty
Jelugo1977
Montreal Canadiens
Location: St-Hubert, QC
Joined: 12.04.2018

Apr 30 @ 3:38 PM ET
I have to agree with Paul's assesment on this one.
I'd like to address a few things.
1. This WAS the correct application of the rule.
The crosscheck was not malicious and not meant to injure. But it was intentional and the RESULT was a fairly serious injury. 5 min penalty. THATS THE RULE.
BTW. i don't agree with the rule but refs can't ignore them and apply them as they see fit.
2. To everyone saying...at most 2 min. If refs call this at all, it has to be 5 minutes based on the injury that resulted from it.
Come on guys it's not that complicated.
As i said before. This should NOT be 5 min major in my opinion, but that is because i don't agree with the rule.
The refs made the right call and applied the rule correctly.
Now how about we talk about that Eakin goal?
That WAS the worst call that game and possibly the WORST high stick allowed goal I've ever seen.
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Apr 30 @ 11:34 PM ET
I have to agree with Paul's assesment on this one.
I'd like to address a few things.
1. This WAS the correct application of the rule.
The crosscheck was not malicious and not meant to injure. But it was intentional and the RESULT was a fairly serious injury. 5 min penalty. THATS THE RULE.
BTW. i don't agree with the rule but refs can't ignore them and apply them as they see fit.
2. To everyone saying...at most 2 min. If refs call this at all, it has to be 5 minutes based on the injury that resulted from it.
Come on guys it's not that complicated.
As i said before. This should NOT be 5 min major in my opinion, but that is because i don't agree with the rule.
The refs made the right call and applied the rule correctly.
Now how about we talk about that Eakin goal?
That WAS the worst call that game and possibly the WORST high stick allowed goal I've ever seen.

- Jelugo1977

Wrong. There was no high stick, so the blood should have been taken out of the equation. So in your mind, any check that causes a pkayer to fall funny and draw blood should be a 5 mi ute penalty? Good luck with that.
Jelugo1977
Montreal Canadiens
Location: St-Hubert, QC
Joined: 12.04.2018

May 1 @ 5:47 AM ET
Wrong. There was no high stick, so the blood should have been taken out of the equation. So in your mind, any check that causes a pkayer to fall funny and draw blood should be a 5 mi ute penalty? Good luck with that.
- powerenforcer


You are debating the rule and not the call. I don't think blood SHOULD equal a 5 min major, but the result of that INTENTIONAL play was a serious injury. Even though I don't agree with the rule as it's written. It was applied correctly.

You can't push someone in the street who the gets hit by a car and say that your push didn't cause the damage. These players are responsable for their actions AND the consequences of their actions.

At the end of the day, each team had potentially one game changing call against them, which in my book equals out.

One bad goal allowed.
One 5 min major penalty.

If you're a coach, and had to chose one of those, would you take a 5 min powerplay if it meant behing down one goal? Percentages say VEGAS got the better deal out of those two calls.

The fact that they gave up 4 goals...well that's WAY outside percentages. HOUSE DOESN'T ALWAYS WIN.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

May 1 @ 12:47 PM ET
I have to agree with Paul's assesment on this one.
I'd like to address a few things.
1. This WAS the correct application of the rule.
The crosscheck was not malicious and not meant to injure. But it was intentional and the RESULT was a fairly serious injury. 5 min penalty. THATS THE RULE.
BTW. i don't agree with the rule but refs can't ignore them and apply them as they see fit.
2. To everyone saying...at most 2 min. If refs call this at all, it has to be 5 minutes based on the injury that resulted from it.
Come on guys it's not that complicated.
As i said before. This should NOT be 5 min major in my opinion, but that is because i don't agree with the rule.
The refs made the right call and applied the rule correctly.
Now how about we talk about that Eakin goal?
That WAS the worst call that game and possibly the WORST high stick allowed goal I've ever seen.

- Jelugo1977


YIKES!!! Did you see where the league apologized and admitted it was the wrong call? Did you see where the Ref's are no longer officiating in the Playoffs for that call? I am pretty sure that it was the wrong call...

now Vegas should have killed off the penalty no matter how many min's it was for.
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