Oh it's a ton of luck. 7 games is really too small a sample for those numbers to mean much of anything. You can use the trends to start predicting long term results over a couple years, but seven games? Anything can happen in seven games.
- BINGO!

we agree here for sure

Jesse Granger
@JesseGranger_

George McPhee said the NHL did reach out to him, and apologized for the officiating in Game 7.

“They made a mistake and I’m sure they feel bad about it.”

Jesse Granger
@JesseGranger_

George McPhee said the NHL did reach out to him, and apologized for the officiating in Game 7.

“They made a mistake and I’m sure they feel bad about it.”
- jimbro83

How about that missed delay of game on the Caps and then calling it later on the Canes... Wooooof

if somebody took a team, say Carolina, and pointed out their advanced stats in the first round and based their opinion that they'll win the second round on those numbers, I'd be more inclined to look at them as a factor over the advanced stats of an 82 game regular season which I wouldn't even remotely consider

but I still say heart and blood n guts and a little luck win playoff rounds
- jimbro83

I totally agree with you... but WHO is tracking all of these numbers?

What's a hit? What's a giveaway? What's a takeaway? What's a CF? To me, you're going to get wide variances unless the same person is tracking it for every player, and every team.

You really believe this? You think NHL players are flying down the wing thinking, "I have to get the puck to Mr. Game 7. I have to."? I think it's more when Mr. Game 7 get's the puck, he makes the most of his opportunities.

I'm not disagreeing that advanced stats work, but I fall somewhere in the middle that there's a human aspect to the game numbers can't explain.
- Bean_Dip

I can tell you he got 3 more minutes of ice time in regulation in Game 7 than he did in game 6 in regulation, and played way more in OT than he did at any other point in the game.

I totally agree with you... but WHO is tracking all of these numbers?

What's a hit? What's a giveaway? What's a takeaway? What's a CF? To me, you're going to get wide variances unless the same person is tracking it for every player, and every team.
- TheMessiah94

CF is a shot attempt. Any time you throw the puck at the net, that's CF.

I totally agree with you... but WHO is tracking all of these numbers?

What's a hit? What's a giveaway? What's a takeaway? What's a CF? To me, you're going to get wide variances unless the same person is tracking it for every player, and every team.
- TheMessiah94

Cystic Fibrosis

I totally agree with you... but WHO is tracking all of these numbers?

What's a hit? What's a giveaway? What's a takeaway? What's a CF? To me, you're going to get wide variances unless the same person is tracking it for every player, and every team.
- TheMessiah94

yep, I mean, if this wunderkind in Carolina is personally tracking each individual player with each of these advanced stats, not using stats from some 3rd party site, and then selecting the 20 players on his team based on those stats that he himself gathered, well that would impress me.

Cystic Fibrosis
- eichiefs9

I can tell you he got 3 more minutes of ice time in regulation in Game 7 than he did in game 6 in regulation, and played way more in OT than he did at any other point in the game.
- BINGO!

Yeah, but that's a coaching decision. That differs from a player making those decisions on the fly. That's where the advanced stat argument loses me. I think it's a tool that coaches and the front office can use to set their teams up to be in the best position possible to win. I don't think it ultimately defines a game and all of the emotions that come with it. I think that's a fair "balanced" approach.

CF is a shot attempt. Any time you throw the puck at the net, that's CF.
- BINGO!

Ok... so then what is a hit? What's a giveaway?

What if the "shot attempt" was really a pass attempt to someone in front of the net? It's too subjective. I'm not looking for an argument, I just believe in the eye test over these fancy new stats.

Cystic Fibrosis
- eichiefs9

Cystic Fibrosis
- eichiefs9

It's also Cold Fusion.... a horrible programming language.

I can tell you he got 3 more minutes of ice time in regulation in Game 7 than he did in game 6 in regulation, and played way more in OT than he did at any other point in the game.
- BINGO!

Can Hamilton grow a pair of balls before this series starts?

Can Hamilton grow a pair of balls before this series starts?
- Slimtj100

It would be pretty weird to see a vagina with balls caitlin jenner joke goes here

Ok... so then what is a hit? What's a giveaway?

What if the "shot attempt" was really a pass attempt to someone in front of the net? It's too subjective. I'm not looking for an argument, I just believe in the eye test over these fancy new stats.
- TheMessiah94

it's a very good point

there isn't one guy keeping track of all these things and everybody defines these things their own way

Can Hamilton grow a pair of balls before this series starts?
- Slimtj100

Hamilton has a very low Bf% (balls for) stat

It would be pretty weird to see a vagina with balls caitlin jenner joke goes here
- eichiefs9

If people stop watching the Kardashians they will go away. Like Paris Hilton we haven't heard anything about her I had to check to see if she died

Hamilton has a very low Bf% (balls for) stat
- 2sticks1puck

His HA% (hits avoided) is through the roof though.

His HA% (hits avoided) is through the roof though.
- JRR1285

nice

It would be pretty weird to see a vagina with balls caitlin jenner joke goes here
- eichiefs9

Isles 4th line is gonna have a field day banging him. Like a whoah getting a train run on her for 7 straight hours, or games in his case haha

it's a very good point

there isn't one guy keeping track of all these things and everybody defines these things their own way
- jimbro83

BINGO!

Not that Bingo!

nice
- jimbro83

If you have no balls, avoid a hit, and give up a goal, that's a natural Hamrlik

If you have no balls, avoid a hit, and give up a goal, that's a natural Hamrlik
- 2sticks1puck

His HA% (hits avoided) is through the roof though.
- JRR1285

See like Robin Lehner has a FAG% (free agent goalie) percentage of 100 next year.