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aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Apr 25 @ 8:22 PM ET
And Toronto will wonder what could have been after he leaves. Some will still defend Dubas and Matthews.

I would package Matthews and Nylander for McDavid this summer. I would throw in prospects if I have to.

- gamerdoc


With the cap situation I have also considered what a return would be for the nuclear option - trading Matthews. Nothing to do with him at all - he's great. But with the mismanagement and total forward heavy cap situation it is an interesting thought.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 25 @ 8:23 PM ET
With the cap situation I have also considered what a return would be for the nuclear option - trading Matthews. Nothing to do with him at all - he's great. But with the mismanagement and total forward heavy cap situation it is an interesting thought.
- aminnes


Nylander, Marleau, Zaitsev; there's other, better options to trade before Matthews.

But if 4 and 1/2 years from now, the Leafs haven't won a Cup and Matthews doesn't have a contract, it's probably best to move him before he Tavares' the Leafs.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Apr 25 @ 8:25 PM ET
What a Leafy thing to happen.

Finally get a 1st overall pick that yields a great player...

...but he's from Arizona, has bum shoulders and wants to leave ASAP.

- JohnFergusonJr


LOL I know right.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Apr 25 @ 8:26 PM ET
Whatever Lou was doing, seems to work with Islanders with no name casts other than Berzal maybe? Even Berzal isn’t supposed to be as good as Marner never mind AM.
- gamerdoc


It's Trotz. Worst defensive team to best defensive team in one year. Jack Adams.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Apr 25 @ 8:26 PM ET
Nylander, Marleau, Zaitsev; there's other, better options to trade before Matthews.

But if 4 and 1/2 years from now, the Leafs haven't won a Cup and Matthews doesn't have a contract, it's probably best to move him before he Tavares' the Leafs.

- JohnFergusonJr

Mattlesnake
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 25 @ 8:27 PM ET
LOL I know right.
- aminnes


Luckily, they still got Marner.

And Tavares.

aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Apr 25 @ 8:28 PM ET
Nylander, Marleau, Zaitsev; there's other, better options to trade before Matthews.

But if 4 and 1/2 years from now, the Leafs haven't won a Cup and Matthews doesn't have a contract, it's probably best to move him before he Tavares' the Leafs.

- JohnFergusonJr


No one is giving a good return for WN. Marleau has a no trade. Zeitsev has a long contract so they won't get anything better than him in return. Basically the team will be worse next year regardless.
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Apr 25 @ 8:31 PM ET
Dudes, my nephew has a perfect bracket. What the (frank)?

Did he fill out every combination? What’s the math there? 8! (Factorial)?

- RickJames77



Little worse than 1 in 40,000 odds.

Tell him, buy a Lottery ticket!!!
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 25 @ 8:32 PM ET
Mattlesnake
- mr.sir


Stone Cold Auston, the Mattlesnake.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 25 @ 8:33 PM ET
No one is giving a good return for WN. Marleau has a no trade. Zeitsev has a long contract so they won't get anything better than him in return. Basically the team will be worse next year regardless.
- aminnes


That's not true. Nylander is still young and has potential. If he plays with Matthews again, for a full season, his value will pop back up.

Marleau could still decide he wants to retire and his contract is perfect to dump in Arizona, July 2nd.

Zaitsev is still a RHD. Somebody will take him eventually.

All of these are better than trading Matthews right now.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Apr 25 @ 8:40 PM ET
That's not true. Nylander is still young and has potential. If he plays with Matthews again, for a full season, his value will pop back up.

Marleau could still decide he wants to retire and his contract is perfect to dump in Arizona, July 2nd.

Zaitsev is still a RHD. Somebody will take him eventually.

All of these are better than trading Matthews right now.

- JohnFergusonJr


That's a lot of ifs ands or buts. And none of them bring a premier defensemen to the Leafs. This is of course, just a fun thing to discuss, but what kind of blueline help could he bring? Could he bring another centre over as well? And a 1st rounder?
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 25 @ 8:43 PM ET
Why'd the Leafs give up on Scott Harrington again?
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Apr 25 @ 8:45 PM ET
Why'd the Leafs give up on Scott Harrington again?
- JohnFergusonJr


Gave away Neilson for nothing too. He'll be the next Harrington. There is a long list.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Apr 25 @ 9:03 PM ET
The Penalty Columbus just got was unbelievably bad.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Apr 25 @ 9:15 PM ET
I hope the Leafs are watching. CBJ got themselves back into the game despite some bad non-calls, ridiculous diving by the Bruins and Chara telling the refs what to call.

Geez
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.13.2019

Apr 25 @ 9:15 PM ET
The Penalty Columbus just got was unbelievably bad.
- Aetherial


Bruins in 3
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 25 @ 9:17 PM ET
I hope the Leafs are watching. CBJ got themselves back into the game despite some bad non-calls, ridiculous diving by the Bruins and Chara telling the refs what to call.
- Aetherial


And two golden horseshoe deflection goals, especially the 2nd one.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Apr 25 @ 9:22 PM ET
And two golden horseshoe deflection goals, especially the 2nd one.
- JohnFergusonJr


If you missed the point, I am sorry. I don't think me explaining it will help you.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 25 @ 9:23 PM ET
If you missed the point, I am sorry. I don't think me explaining it will help you.
- Aetherial


The point is easy to see; you're angry at the Bruins, even though they were the better team.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Apr 25 @ 9:28 PM ET
The doomsaying on this thread about Matthews is classic guys, exceptional work everyone.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Apr 25 @ 9:32 PM ET
That's not true. Nylander is still young and has potential. If he plays with Matthews again, for a full season, his value will pop back up.

Marleau could still decide he wants to retire and his contract is perfect to dump in Arizona, July 2nd.

Zaitsev is still a RHD. Somebody will take him eventually.

All of these are better than trading Matthews right now.

- JohnFergusonJr

A 22 year old winger that can play C, and already has 2 60+ point seasons. Yeah.. No trade value at all....SMH.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Apr 25 @ 9:37 PM ET
The point is easy to see; you're angry at the Bruins, even though they were the better team.
- JohnFergusonJr


It's ok man, I am sure there are people who are able to function, somewhat, while living with the same challenges you face.

You keep on trying really hard little fella
bartsch
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mia San Mia
Joined: 07.04.2006

Apr 25 @ 9:41 PM ET
Only watched the third period of this game, but sure seems like Columbus is much stronger physically than Boston.

Sad to see Boston tie it up, really want them to lose. Yes, I’m a sore loser.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Apr 25 @ 9:44 PM ET
Only watched the third period of this game, but sure seems like Columbus is much stronger physically than Boston.

Sad to see Boston tie it up, really want them to lose. Yes, I’m a sore loser.

- bartsch


Is Backes playing?
bartsch
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mia San Mia
Joined: 07.04.2006

Apr 25 @ 9:47 PM ET
Is Backes playing?
- gravyface

No, don’t think so, haven’t seen him. But Clifton is back in.
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