Chunk
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Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL Joined: 11.06.2015
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Yep and he just does his job.
Can't believe BJs win that game last night, but it took a man advantage every time to score.
Nice snipe by Panarin on the second goal.
At times BJs defense is all over the place, when they start chasing boy does it get ugly
3 goal posts is the reason this series is 1-1 - BetweenTheDots
In general, he has looked pretty calm. He was more offense minded in the past, but he seemed more cautious last night.
Simple plays, good positioning etc.
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HawkintheD
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Location: Sick Bay, MI Joined: 02.22.2012
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Although he seems to be a polarizing player as far as how he has been evaluated so far, Sikura fits this description as well. - AEL_Fox
I agree. I think as far as scoring, once he gets his first, the floodgates open so to speak.
The guy clearly has some potential O, so I don’t think 15-20 goals is that hard to envision depending on where he lines up.
I think he’s dismissed out of hand by some simply for his slight frame and weight. He competes and wins a fair share of board battles but that doesn’t fit the narrative.
If Perlini had his compete level and hockey sense there is no way AZ would have traded him. |
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Some personal thoughts after watching the Canada-USA under 18 game today:
-that Caufield looks like Debrincat2 out there
-Jack Hughes is a good player. Wish we had lucked out on #1 overall. (A few months ago while we were still in a strong position for #1 overall, I threw out the suggestion that the Canucks could be approached to unite the Hughes brothers by parting with Pettersson. I was dissed for that comment. Watching Hughes today, I do not think that the possibility would be that far fetched.)
-if we draft Cozens, I would be very disappointed. I lost count of the number of pucks he threw away esp on the powerplay. I know it is just one game for the Cozens supporters, but he sure did not stand out today in a positive way.
-York is a nice defenceman with a bomb of a shot. Would be ranked a lot higher if he were bigger.
-The USA team is a powerhouse. How they did not reach the final game is baffling. |
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Sn1362
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 07.10.2014
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How would everyone feel if Hughes fell to the third pick? |
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HawkintheD
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Location: Sick Bay, MI Joined: 02.22.2012
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Polarizing player by posters, team assessment, media? Who is making claims against him, is what I'm asking. First time I've heard it, to be honest AEL_Fox. - gabriel
I read only one other place where fans post...it isn’t happening there. |
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gabriel
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Location: West Lafayette, IN Joined: 02.02.2013
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Kruger also has a knack of getting under the skin of opponents whether its crashing the net, being a pesky fly during board battles, or simply pursuing the puck aggressively until the whistle is blown to stop play but tacking on a few more attempts afterward. He's easily pushed aside and pummeled by the other team but that's not the point. What matters most is agitating the other team in incremental ways. - AEL_Fox
So, so, true. Don't think he's a classic yapper like Caggiula or Shaw. Think what he does on the ice sometimes irks opponents to the point of distraction. Need more Kruger types in their prime. No doubt.
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HawkintheD
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Location: Sick Bay, MI Joined: 02.22.2012
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So, so, true. Don't think he's a classic yapper like Caggiula or Shaw. Think what he does on the ice sometimes irks opponents to the point of distraction. Need more Kruger types in their prime. No doubt. - gabriel
I think we may have one in Kampf. |
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In general, he has looked pretty calm. He was more offense minded in the past, but he seemed more cautious last night.
Simple plays, good positioning etc. - Chunk
And his first step is almost always backwards, it's like baseball for an outfielder, i always tell my kids if you're not sure don't step forwards always take a step backwards, easier to make up ground going forward, it's amazing how that little detail affects so many dmen in the NHL.
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gabriel
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Location: West Lafayette, IN Joined: 02.02.2013
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I think we may have one in Kampf. - HawkintheD
Truly enjoy his play, and missed him when he was out with his injury. Does what he can to the best of his ability. That's all anyone can ask for. Earns his paycheck.
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ikeane
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Location: Jacksonville, FL Joined: 11.04.2005
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gabriel
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Am gaining the impression each and every day that the NBC guys (who are generally good), don't want to see Carolina or Columbus advance in the playoffs. Or, is my personal observation incorrect? |
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Beaver-Warrior
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Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom Joined: 07.28.2011
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Am gaining the impression each and every day that the NBC guys (who are generally good), don't want to see Carolina or Columbus advance in the playoffs. Or, is my personal observation incorrect? - gabriel
Market size doesn't matter. |
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gabriel
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Location: West Lafayette, IN Joined: 02.02.2013
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Market size doesn't matter. - Beaver-Warrior
In theory at least, it sure shouldn't. Sometimes wonder though, if ratings aren't a major consideration. Just needed a reality check.
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Theo Fox
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Polarizing player by posters, team assessment, media? Who is making claims against him, is what I'm asking. First time I've heard it, to be honest AEL_Fox. - gabriel
Speaking about these boards specifically. Posters seem to either like him and see good to great potential or want him traded, see him as a fringe NHLer, or think he’s worthless altogether. I’m in the former camp. To each their own, though. |
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In theory at least, it sure shouldn't. Sometimes wonder though, if ratings aren't a major consideration. Just needed a reality check. - gabriel
Also i think it's hard not to root for the team you played for in the past, aka Milbury, at the same time he's very critical of them when they make mistakes like i am with the Hawks |
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StLBravesFan
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Location: IL Joined: 07.03.2011
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In theory at least, it sure shouldn't. Sometimes wonder though, if ratings aren't a major consideration. Just needed a reality check. - gabriel
Market size and ratings certainly are important to the networks - which is why any talk of the league trying to hurt the Chicago franchise is absurd - but so is any talk of fixing games / seasons / drafts in favor of big market teams.
The league’s are to valuable, the league franchise is too valuably, the teams are too valuable to risk any attempt at controlling any of the outcomes.
They may be incompetent - or under league orders to make calls or “no calls” - but I just don’t believe that any of it is trying to control who wins and loses. |
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Theo Fox
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I agree. I think as far as scoring, once he gets his first, the floodgates open so to speak.
The guy clearly has some potential O, so I don’t think 15-20 goals is that hard to envision depending on where he lines up.
I think he’s dismissed out of hand by some simply for his slight frame and weight. He competes and wins a fair share of board battles but that doesn’t fit the narrative.
If Perlini had his compete level and hockey sense there is no way AZ would have traded him. - HawkintheD
Excellent post. I feel there’s some “throwing the baby out with the bath water” with Sikura, i.e. he has no goals so the rest of his game is trash. On the contrary, he contributes and competes in a bunch of other ways.
Agree, if Perlini and even Hayden played consistently and competed hard like Sikura, the Hawks would have 2 great power forwards. |
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Theo Fox
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So, so, true. Don't think he's a classic yapper like Caggiula or Shaw. Think what he does on the ice sometimes irks opponents to the point of distraction. Need more Kruger types in their prime. No doubt. - gabriel
Exactly. I like that description, "irks opponents to the point of distraction." Accurate for Kruger and an example of another way to beat an opponent. Brute physicality, hits, and fights are part of the game but not the only way to undermine the other team. |
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Theo Fox
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I think we may have one in Kampf. - HawkintheD
I also like what both Luke and Reece Johnson bring as potential 4C candidates. Can’t have all of them play that role but the competition is good. |
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walleyeb1
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Location: Petersburg, IL Joined: 09.25.2014
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Some personal thoughts after watching the Canada-USA under 18 game today:
-that Caufield looks like Debrincat2 out there
-Jack Hughes is a good player. Wish we had lucked out on #1 overall. (A few months ago while we were still in a strong position for #1 overall, I threw out the suggestion that the Canucks could be approached to unite the Hughes brothers by parting with Pettersson. I was dissed for that comment. Watching Hughes today, I do not think that the possibility would be that far fetched.)
-if we draft Cozens, I would be very disappointed. I lost count of the number of pucks he threw away esp on the powerplay. I know it is just one game for the Cozens supporters, but he sure did not stand out today in a positive way.
-York is a nice defenceman with a bomb of a shot. Would be ranked a lot higher if he were bigger.
-The USA team is a powerhouse. How they did not reach the final game is baffling. - 67hawks
Beginning to warm to Dach:
https://thestarphoenix.co...tick-for-parade-of-scouts |
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jhawk59
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How would everyone feel if Hughes fell to the third pick? - Sn1362
I will repeat this sgain snd if you disagree, that is ok this is jusy a hockey board. But support your assessment
Give your reasons.
We were manhandled by Nashville in playoffs. Toews no longer plays a heavy game. You need gritty players and you need players who routinely body check. Size helps but you can get by with only a few big size guys as long as the team had a system and most everyone is willing to play some defense. Being a lightweight does not become a big problem but you can only have so many of them. Size wise both DeBrincat and Kane are small.
Right now we do not have any forwards with skill whom willingly play a physical style. We better get some because you cannot expect to win with two top offensive lines that lack toughness. Opponents sooner or later are going to say, beat chg by being physical. They are especially soft team. Adding the talented but small Hughes just keeps us farther away from truly competing
Yeah i am disappointed in Cozens performance but i go with long term evaluation and all scouting reports say what wiz does. Wiz just goes into more detail with his personal opinion emphasized. There are numerous reasons why Cozens could not look as good as others. The proof will be in where these players get drafted
I do not believe you can hide the emotion which Shero professionally attempted to do when he was responding to being able to take Hughes first. The ideal player has size and skill in a league trending to more skill and size.
Where you see smaller size being not a hang up is in this new look nhl where all the teams have been and will continue to emphasize fast attack. Quick reacting bring able to make plays at speed, moving the puck defencemen. That trumps size and defending as a small size not too physically strong or challenging dman in defensive posture. That is why Forsling stuck around long into season two years ago. That is why wiz suggests that maybe Bowman keeps Forsling here for say December to see if Forsling can improve......they really like his ability to think make plays at speed. Two years ago wiz said Forsling is best at this among the team's dmen
Now i went on a tangent about size insofar as dmen. I can see where the league is headed. Nevertheless each team needs a couple of tougher dmen. And among forward ranks, only so much weak non physical compete should be tolerated. Otherwise become chopped liver and go.play with the ladys hockey for cripes sake
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Theo Fox
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Some personal thoughts after watching the Canada-USA under 18 game today:
-that Caufield looks like Debrincat2 out there
-Jack Hughes is a good player. Wish we had lucked out on #1 overall. (A few months ago while we were still in a strong position for #1 overall, I threw out the suggestion that the Canucks could be approached to unite the Hughes brothers by parting with Pettersson. I was dissed for that comment. Watching Hughes today, I do not think that the possibility would be that far fetched.)
-if we draft Cozens, I would be very disappointed. I lost count of the number of pucks he threw away esp on the powerplay. I know it is just one game for the Cozens supporters, but he sure did not stand out today in a positive way.
-York is a nice defenceman with a bomb of a shot. Would be ranked a lot higher if he were bigger.
-The USA team is a powerhouse. How they did not reach the final game is baffling. - 67hawks
Thanks for the observations.
On Hughes, I can see a trade for Jack by the Canucks to unite him with Quinn. The draft is in Vancouver so a big splash could be in the cards for them. Such a trade would have to include some high end pieces whether Pettersson, Horvat, top shelf prospects, and/or early round draft picks.
On Cozens, yeah, starting to lean away from him in favor of Turcotte and possibly Krebs. The latter two seem to bring it every shift and in every zone.
On York, I find him intriguing. Some of his scouting reports sound similar to Keith's skill set. I know York is undersized but there are good examples of such D-men in the NHL who are quite good such as Ellis and Krug. And soon to be Q Hughes. |
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wiz1901
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Location: DraftSite com, IL Joined: 05.14.2008
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How would everyone feel if Hughes fell to the third pick? - Sn1362
he won't |
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35Tony0
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Location: Springfield, IL Joined: 05.10.2015
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Just saw an isolated view of Teuvo on Carolina's bench. His neck looks much bigger than it did when he was in Chicago. Like he's been working it for years.... |
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wiz1901
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Location: DraftSite com, IL Joined: 05.14.2008
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I wrote this earlier, it disappeared and it was lost somehow.
The larger Swedish ice can influence what you see and how guys play.
In the NHL, you are gonna have to score, drive the net, and move in open ice and carry strongly.
Sure this tourney can move player some, but you are deciding on what attributes project and will work on a bit smaller ice with tons of player is all sizes who will stick check you in a millisecond,rub you to submission, and are just as fast or faster that your junior self.
Hughes checks every box.
Kakko will never be a blazer but he has ample jump balance and checks all the boxes too.
But it is silly to think that there are a FEW good prospects at three because there are Avery least 8 that are on every list, and there is an entire first round that CAN be really be very good NHL players.
I love Philllip Broberg. You need a solid defender in middle ice and his own end with size stick hands? He is who you take if you want a big defenseman for a decade. Is he #88 on San Jose? No.
You want a goal scorer.? Caufield may be your guy.
You want speed? Turcotte.
You want big centre - pick one.
You want power forward? Podkolzin.
(and I have watched all the same 2019 Under 18 world championships you are including Podkolin's waved off/wved on one.
You want one way offensmen? Bowen
At #3 you decide what you need if they all look equal in regards to your needs.
I always what the North American caching staffs tell their forward groups in relation to the space.
The thing is you are looking at that the guy you draft becomes as he. develops fully and how he is able to use the abilities to be top NHL difference makers, not just how they do RIGHT now in their international peer groups...it counts for a lot in terms of judging the prospect NOW in the group, not what a fully developed man will be.
With each one, it has to be a evaluation of now skills and later polished version.
But fear not we are gonna get a really good now one and a really good polished one later.
and who knows if Dach not Cozens big body is the one the hawks are interested in.
Trust Kelley.
I am not trying be a douche here, but prior to the Toews pick, how much did you know about him? Did you see his performances in the World Challenge? (Before world Junior)
they come on the radar early and it is a ton of little things that solidify those top selections, because there is adequate fall back from the start.
Yeah, Cozens seven games, 4 goals 8 points in seven games (same as Turcotte), I wouldn't cause that to get me to "cool" towards him.
How about next years, Canadian defender Braden Schneider and the Swedes, Lucas Raymond and Alexander Holtz (not in the tourney) next year biggies after Alexis Lafrenière and Quinton Byfield... |
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